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| loin | hello, seems that i bricked my n9 somehow | 00:51 |
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| loin | does anyone have a good reflash guide? | 00:51 |
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| JackaLX | loin: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82693&highlight=reflashing+guide | 01:16 |
| loin | thanks JackaLX, i was already downloading the files | 01:17 |
| loin | i dont like the fact that it bricked 'for no reason' | 01:17 |
| JackaLX | There's always a reason, just sometimes it's not immediately obvious. :-) | 01:19 |
| loin | all i did was to remove facebook / skype / twitter | 01:19 |
| loin | and other bloatware | 01:19 |
| loin | nothing personal | 01:20 |
| michael_Behman | loin, that's actually a very common problem. | 01:20 |
| loin | michael_Behman, the fact that it bricks or the fact that many people want to remove those apps? | 01:21 |
| michael_Behman | Mein bricked out of no where, it was in my pocket, and then I found it turned off, and never worked again. | 01:21 |
| michael_Behman | It bricks when people remove those apps. | 01:21 |
| JackaLX | yup, there's a meta package that just contains the initial directory layout and not much more, but it also has dependencies on every system package which will mean if you remove one of its deps it will autoremove everything else | 01:21 |
| loin | did you unbrick it using the guide? | 01:21 |
| michael_Behman | Not yet. Downloading the images. | 01:21 |
| loin | i noticed that the only 'system' file that was removed as a dependency was mp-harmattan-006-pr | 01:22 |
| loin | very ubuntu-like | 01:23 |
| loin | to bind useless crap to a system package | 01:23 |
| loin | so you're forced to live with it | 01:23 |
| loin | fine when using a pc, not so fine when using a phone | 01:23 |
| loin | but my brick happened like 2 hours after i removed the apps | 01:24 |
| loin | i took it out of my pocket and i noticed that one app was missing | 01:24 |
| loin | then another | 01:24 |
| loin | and one by one they all disappeared | 01:24 |
| JackaLX | There is a way around... you just apt-get install $DEPS_OF_THAT_mp-harm-thingy which turns all the dependencies of that package to be "manually installed" and breaks the dependency | 01:24 |
| JackaLX | after that you can remove whatever you like (within reason of course) | 01:25 |
| loin | JackaLX, thanks for that | 01:25 |
| loin | but i think i won't be removing things for a while | 01:25 |
| JackaLX | loin: :-) I can understand that | 01:26 |
| loin | its just so uncool to bind a 'system' meta-package to crapware | 01:26 |
| loin | and i just purchased this phone hours ago | 01:26 |
| JackaLX | totally agree | 01:26 |
| loin | did this ever happen to you JackaLX ? | 01:28 |
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| JackaLX | loin: no. The N9 was my first encounter with dpkg/apt-get so in the beginning I was very wary and used --dry-run a lot :-) | 01:30 |
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| loin | JackaLX, but the actual commands didn't crash the phone | 01:33 |
| loin | it was only hours later | 01:33 |
| loin | that the phone started acting funny | 01:33 |
| loin | so the dry run wouldn't actually do much | 01:33 |
| loin | http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php is down... | 01:36 |
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| JackaLX | loin: the apps that were already in memory and running would continue to run after you had deleted them (indirectly via apt-get autoremoving the deps). they'd only crap out when they tried to get more of themselves off disc. if you get what I mean there | 01:39 |
| loin | well, i don't think i had anything running | 01:42 |
| loin | at least it wasn't showing in the running apps | 01:42 |
| loin | it might have had them in the cache | 01:42 |
| loin | but i wont get in that deep | 01:42 |
| JackaLX | a lot of things on the N9 are "pre-loaded" on boot so that they will load up faster when the user starts them | 01:43 |
| JackaLX | not always easy to see exactly what is and isn't running... look in top some time :-) | 01:43 |
| JackaLX | right now, according to the UI I have nothing running on mine, but ps aux|wc -l => 193 | 01:44 |
| loin | :) | 01:45 |
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| loin | well, it boots now | 01:47 |
| loin | thanks for the help | 01:47 |
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| JackaLX | yay, well done, loin | 01:50 |
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| loin | the sim card doesnt seem to be recognized anymore | 01:52 |
| JackaLX | try taking it out and put it back. It's hot-swappable | 01:54 |
| JackaLX | just a guess, I've never had that prob | 01:54 |
| loin | tried that a couple of times | 01:56 |
| JackaLX | Could it just be that you're in a bad reception area? | 01:57 |
| JackaLX | Settings -> Device -> SIM card (is there an error/warning in there saying anything) | 01:59 |
| JackaLX | I'd imagine if the card wasn't recognised that that would be the place to say so | 01:59 |
| loin | doesnt say anything | 02:04 |
| loin | it detects the card | 02:04 |
| loin | since if its out of the tray it says it is | 02:04 |
| loin | maybe firmware has simlock? | 02:06 |
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| loin | hello, does anyone know if its possible to change the statusbar? | 07:59 |
| loin | i'm interested in adding a 1 pixel line at the top | 08:00 |
| loin | like here http://i.imm.io/124v7.jpeg | 08:02 |
| bef0rd | maybe | 08:08 |
| bef0rd | i've seen some themes that changes the background image | 08:08 |
| loin | well, the background isn't all that hard to modify | 08:10 |
| loin | having a bar that dynamically changes based on system parameters requires a bit more coding and access to systemui | 08:10 |
| loin | i think | 08:10 |
| loin | at least on android | 08:10 |
| bef0rd | I thought you only wanted the 1 pixel line at the top | 08:11 |
| bef0rd | :P | 08:11 |
| loin | well i did, but i want to have it functioning | 08:11 |
| loin | to indicate my battery percentage | 08:11 |
| loin | its one of those things that once used, you can't live without | 08:12 |
| loin | so much more convinient than having an icon | 08:12 |
| bef0rd | I think it can be done, it probably requires work, systemui is available afaik (toggles from MohammadAG uses a modified version) | 08:14 |
| loin | does mohammad ag ever visit this chat room? | 08:15 |
| loin | MohammadAG, ping (if you're on) | 08:15 |
| bef0rd | he lives here | 08:15 |
| loin | thats always good to hear :) | 08:17 |
| bef0rd | but its probably better to ask in the thread of Mt-toggles, he can probably point you in the right direction | 08:17 |
| loin | well, i don't really want the toggles and all that so it might be a little off topic | 08:18 |
| loin | i found a git repository by MohammadAG this could be it | 08:19 |
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| bef0rd | I think there is an option to show the battery status as number instead of using just the icon, not sure if its on MohammadAG systemui or coderus | 08:20 |
| loin | i did find a "Added battery percentage on statusbar " commit in this repository | 08:21 |
| loin | thanks :) | 08:24 |
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| bef0rd | np | 08:27 |
| michael_Behman | Thanks bef0rd for the link you've pointed me to earlier, but I couldn't find any Meego images there, just Maemo. Any ideas? | 08:44 |
| bef0rd | oh :/ | 08:50 |
| bef0rd | i thought thedead1440 had a backup there too | 08:50 |
| bef0rd | did you check the forums michael_Behman? | 08:50 |
| thedead1440 | bef0rd: skeiron has a backup but its not accessible since http://mrcrab.net/nokia.html is still online | 08:50 |
| loin | hey michael_Behman, did you restore your n9? | 08:51 |
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| michael_Behman | bef0rd, I googled and all the links pointed to dead links. | 08:57 |
| michael_Behman | loin, not yet, navifirm didn't finish downloading the image to I'm trying to resume on my own. | 08:58 |
| bef0rd | what firmware are you looking for michael_Behman | 09:00 |
| michael_Behman | bef0rd, DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.13-7.MEA_EMMC_MEA.bin to be specific. | 09:01 |
| loin | michael_Behman, i did it successully last night | 09:02 |
| loin | michael_Behman, tho the first time i did it it had a sim lock (?) | 09:02 |
| loin | michael_Behman, "Replace operating system" unbricked it, but it sim didn't work, at least i got to save my contacts | 09:03 |
| loin | michael_Behman, "Comprehensive reset" made my sim work again | 09:04 |
| bef0rd | http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1207/0310/7076658064/528DA068_DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.13-7.MEA_EMMC_MEA.bin | 09:04 |
| bef0rd | that one seems to work for me | 09:04 |
| bef0rd | if you are upgrading to the latest 1.3 firmware, you already read about using the global variant, right? | 09:05 |
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| loin | me? | 09:05 |
| bef0rd | ah didn't see thedead1440's answer :) | 09:06 |
| bef0rd | loin: well everyone that upgrades | 09:06 |
| loin | bef0rd, i didnt use the global variant i think | 09:06 |
| michael_Behman | I'm not upgrading but no, so I might want to read. | 09:06 |
| loin | i used the code from the sim tray to find the version | 09:06 |
| michael_Behman | loin, congratulations, good thing that it is working, mine is still bugging me. | 09:07 |
| bef0rd | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85584 | 09:08 |
| loin | well you did say that the files didnt download yet | 09:08 |
| bef0rd | michael_Behman: did the link I gave you work? | 09:08 |
| loin | bef0rd, im not sure but i think i have the 006 version | 09:10 |
| loin | bef0rd, how can i tell? | 09:10 |
| Jonni | "flasher -i" tells current version if I remember right | 09:10 |
| michael_Behman | bef0rd, Yeah, thanks a lot. | 09:11 |
| bef0rd | there is one of thos *# code that shows it too | 09:11 |
| loin | bef0rd, DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_006 is that pr the thing? | 09:12 |
| bef0rd | thats PR_006 | 09:12 |
| loin | does that mean its branded or anything? | 09:13 |
| bef0rd | the "issue" afaik is that you won't be able to apply a firmware different to PR_006 on your phone unless nokia releases a new one | 09:13 |
| loin | i dont think i could have before, could i? | 09:13 |
| bef0rd | yes | 09:13 |
| bef0rd | not sure what is PR_006, read the thread about firmware flashing | 09:14 |
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| bef0rd | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82693 | 09:14 |
| bef0rd | 006 - Middle East | 09:14 |
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| loin | well, in my defense the guide did say Select the appropriate product code in the Variants list. In most cases, you should use the product code printed on the SIM tray | 09:15 |
| bef0rd | bef0rd | 09:16 |
| bef0rd | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82693 | 09:16 |
| bef0rd | bef0rd | 09:16 |
| bef0rd | 006 - Middle East | 09:16 |
| bef0rd | didn't see you leaving | 09:16 |
| loin | i accidently closed the wrong window | 09:16 |
| bef0rd | yea, well it's not a big deal unless you want to hae the Global variant in your phone | 09:16 |
| loin | what's so special about the global variant? | 09:16 |
| bef0rd | I don't know, I know that some variants like china or Telmex (mexico) version didn't have twitter or skype preinstalled (can't remember) | 09:18 |
| loin | that would actually help me since i bricked my phone trying to remove those | 09:18 |
| bef0rd | but as I said, if you have no issues with 006 then you dont need to use the global one | 09:19 |
| bef0rd | :P | 09:19 |
| loin | i really love the look and feel of this phone | 09:20 |
| michael_Behman | loin, it is in deed a really good phone but the fact that the operating system got abandoned that easily is really silly. | 09:21 |
| loin | michael_Behman, they had good reasons to abandon it | 09:21 |
| loin | i can't say i wouldn't love a quad core with this os on it :) | 09:22 |
| michael_Behman | loin, well, I was convinced by there "good reasons". But anyway, this is not the place for such a conversation. The important thing is that it is still a good phone. | 09:26 |
| michael_Behman | loin, well, I wasn't convinced by there "good reasons". But anyway, this is not the place for such a conversation. The important thing is that it is still a good phone. | 09:26 |
| loin | i'm lovin' it (no copyright infringement intended0 | 09:40 |
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| lirion | does anyone tried to get prelink working on the n9? | 15:11 |
| Hurrian | lirion, memory for ld is not a massive problem though | 15:18 |
| Hurrian | it may also interfere with booster which preloads known used libraries and binaries | 15:18 |
| lirion | So it's not a good idea? I think prelink were a good thing to reduce total used memory | 15:23 |
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| Hurrian | free memory is wasted memory bro. | 15:30 |
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| lirion | ok you're right :/ | 15:38 |
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| sasuke | hi all, i recently purchased nokia lumia 920. I am facing problem with voice cmds & also when messaging its not showing mic symbol . Is there any solution for this | 18:28 |
| radiofree | is this some kind of sick joke? | 18:29 |
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| sasuke | radiofree, are you asking me | 18:29 |
| radiofree | yes | 18:30 |
| sasuke | no. my english is very bad. you may find lots of mistakes | 18:30 |
| radiofree | try some windows phone channel, not #harmattan | 18:30 |
| juergbi | http://owindowsphone.pl/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/gbraad-20111205T045443-g6xmqqv.png | 18:30 |
| radiofree | :) | 18:31 |
| sasuke | ok | 18:31 |
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| loin | radiofree, hello | 18:59 |
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| loin | did anyone successfully uninstall facebook > | 20:08 |
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| coderus | loin: sure, tons of times | 20:22 |
| loin | coderus, how did you do that? | 20:23 |
| coderus | fixed dpkg status and just removed | 20:23 |
| loin | fixed dpkg status? | 20:24 |
| coderus | aha | 20:24 |
| coderus | you not using n9qt? | 20:24 |
| coderus | it have my sctipt inside | 20:24 |
| loin | i'm not using n9qt | 20:24 |
| coderus | but you can download it and extract script from it :) | 20:26 |
| loin | that's what i was looking for | 20:27 |
| loin | i can't say i enjoy reflashing the phone so often | 20:27 |
| loin | when things go bad | 20:27 |
| loin | i tried removing facebook and other crap another time | 20:29 |
| loin | and the phone completely crashed | 20:29 |
| loin | i see this is a quite common issue | 20:29 |
| loin | because along with those apps, it also removes some other meta-packages | 20:29 |
| coderus | its easy woth my script | 20:30 |
| coderus | just use it from n9qt | 20:30 |
| loin | i'm still searching for it | 20:30 |
| michael_Behman | Anyone knows how I can actually remove this "Splash screen" from N9 to get a glimpse of what is really happening in the background? | 20:31 |
| loin | michael_Behman, did you managed to flash the new firmware yet? | 20:31 |
| michael_Behman | loin, reflashing the system doesn't make much of a difference so I'm trying any other fixes before having to reflash the EMMC, because honestly, I don't think it's going to make of a difference too. | 20:32 |
| michael_Behman | I'm just stuck in a silly bootloop and I can't do anything about it. | 20:33 |
| michael_Behman | Frankly, I'm starting to think it's a problem with the hardware. | 20:33 |
| loin | michael_Behman, sounds like it, are you sure you did nothing and it just crashed out of nowhere? | 20:33 |
| michael_Behman | loin, believe me I was using the phone normally, listened to some music, received a phone call, received an SMS, did some shopping and got back home, to find the phone off in my pocket and not working. | 20:35 |
| michael_Behman | You think it might be something in what I bought? | 20:35 |
| loin | what did you buy? | 20:36 |
| michael_Behman | But I have to say that it wasn't giving any sign of life at first, but then it booted once after several trials to turn it on, but then everything was messed up. So stupidly enough I rebooted the phone and it never worked again. | 20:36 |
| michael_Behman | loin, mainly food and stuff you know? | 20:36 |
| michael_Behman | It was a joke :D | 20:36 |
| loin | did you install any third party software on it ever? | 20:37 |
| michael_Behman | I don't think so. | 20:37 |
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| loin | how long have you had the phone for? | 20:37 |
| michael_Behman | I just reflashed a couple of months ago, and since then, I didn't want to install much crap on it. | 20:38 |
| michael_Behman | A year and a half, but as I said I just reflashed not so long ago. | 20:38 |
| michael_Behman | don't worry, it shouldn't happen to your phone in a year and a half :D | 20:38 |
| loin | :D | 20:39 |
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| loin | i'm pretty sure it will because i have a habit of hacking everything i see | 20:39 |
| loin | every device i buy gets bricked in less than 24 hours :D | 20:39 |
| michael_Behman | I can see :D | 20:40 |
| loin | soft bricked most of the times | 20:40 |
| michael_Behman | Well, be sure to always backup your stuff then. | 20:40 |
| loin | i have three hard drives | 20:40 |
| loin | so i'm safe | 20:40 |
| loin | the only thing that was truly unrecoverable was when i burnt my new laptop's motherboard :D | 20:40 |
| michael_Behman | Yeah, try not to burn your hard drives then :D | 20:41 |
| loin | i'm pretty sure your issue is not hardware related | 20:42 |
| loin | i'd flash the emmc too, since that fixed my problem | 20:42 |
| loin | as i previously mentioned, just flashing the main thing fixed the bootloop but it locked my sim card | 20:43 |
| loin | after the emmc it was fully functional | 20:43 |
| michael_Behman | So far I don't have any other solutions but I'm still looking. | 20:43 |
| loin | coderus, were you talking about "Remove/Restore not necessary icons" from n9qt? | 20:43 |
| michael_Behman | A lot of people were stuck in a bootloop and got it to work without reflashing, although their solutions are not working with me. | 20:43 |
| loin | michael_Behman, android has a nice "adb" program | 20:44 |
| loin | you just plug the phone in usb | 20:44 |
| loin | adb logcat | 20:44 |
| loin | and you catch all the output of the phone | 20:44 |
| loin | maybe n9 has something similar | 20:44 |
| michael_Behman | Seems like it doesn't. That would have been helpful though. | 20:46 |
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| michael_Behman | By the way, what's the use of the other files present in Navifirm for N9? All instructions mention the use of 2 bin files only. | 20:49 |
| loin | i didnt use them | 20:51 |
| loin | maybe checksums and other key things | 20:51 |
| michael_Behman | There's a dozen of extra files. Weird! | 20:52 |
| loin | well two files are called simlock | 20:53 |
| loin | you don't want those | 20:53 |
| loin | then there are signiture files | 20:53 |
| loin | i wouldn't worry about it | 20:53 |
| michael_Behman | Yeah, it's exactly those simlock files that fot me thinking. | 20:54 |
| loin | did you try to install the same version that was previously on your phone? aka the one in your sim tray | 20:56 |
| loin | or did you maybe try another version? | 20:56 |
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| michael_Behman | I probably can't install the original any more because last time I flashed, I flashed the latest global version, if I recall correctly. | 20:58 |
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| michael_Behman | I think I'll just go nutts and try to install Nemo. | 21:04 |
| michael_Behman | I've got nothing to lose anymore anyway. | 21:04 |
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| loin | i'd still try installing the original | 21:11 |
| loin | before giving up | 21:11 |
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| michael_Behman | That' not even working. | 21:11 |
| loin | did you try? | 21:12 |
| michael_Behman | It failed to partition but I thought no problem, at least they're telling me to telnet into the device. But even telnet is not working :D | 21:12 |
| michael_Behman | Yeah. | 21:12 |
| loin | that doesn't sound very fun... | 21:13 |
| michael_Behman | It's either laugh or cry. I choose to laugh. | 21:13 |
| loin | maybe you could try nitdroid | 21:14 |
| loin | from what i've heard, it kind of does something to the bootloader | 21:14 |
| loin | which is reversible | 21:14 |
| loin | so the sequence of events would be install nitdroid-> boot into meego -> if it works remove nitdroid => have working meego environment again | 21:15 |
| michael_Behman | Must have access to the device's storage. | 21:15 |
| loin | :( | 21:15 |
| dm8tbr | michael_Behman: moslo? | 21:16 |
| michael_Behman | Yeah. | 21:16 |
| michael_Behman | dm8tbr, any ideas? | 21:16 |
| dm8tbr | michael_Behman: make sure that you have the right kernel module loaded | 21:16 |
| dm8tbr | and you might need to configure your network interface manually | 21:17 |
| michael_Behman | Yeah, I was investigating the latter. | 21:17 |
| michael_Behman | But no one mentioned anything about any kernel modules. | 21:17 |
| dm8tbr | try 'ifconfig -a' and check for something like usb0 | 21:17 |
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| michael_Behman | Found it but still no luck. | 21:19 |
| michael_Behman | dm8tbr, up'ed it and set an IP manually. | 21:19 |
| michael_Behman | dm8tbr, should I be doing something with the routing table? | 21:22 |
| dm8tbr | not unless your networks clash | 21:22 |
| michael_Behman | I don't like this: "192.168.2.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 wlan0" | 21:23 |
| michael_Behman | Why is redirecting this wlan0 | 21:23 |
| michael_Behman | There's also a similar line after right for usb0 | 21:23 |
| dm8tbr | is your wifi in the same range? | 21:24 |
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| michael_Behman | Good point. I didn't think of that. I'm used to it being: 192.168.1.1 | 21:25 |
| michael_Behman | Which means yeah it is. | 21:26 |
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| dm8tbr | if so, then this is actually a problem | 21:26 |
| dm8tbr | I'm not 100% sure, but you might get around this with a host route | 21:27 |
| michael_Behman | Or I can just change the wifi's range. | 21:28 |
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| michael_Behman | I lost access to my router. | 21:29 |
| michael_Behman | Still don't find it funny loin? :D | 21:30 |
| michael_Behman | I have no access to the router nor the internet but I'm still on IRC. | 21:30 |
| loin | interesting... | 21:30 |
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| loin | downloads.meego.nokia.com is down | 21:43 |
| loin | is it usually down? | 21:44 |
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| Jonni | that domain has never been up :) | 21:47 |
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| loin | what's it doing in the sources list then? | 21:50 |
| loin | oh well | 21:50 |
| loin | i love the fact that in the about me session it says 'you can request source code on this website' | 21:51 |
| loin | which doesn't exist | 21:51 |
| loin | it goes on to say 'you can e-mail us to ask us for the source code' | 21:51 |
| loin | if you email them, you get an automatic response "Please note that only written requests are accepted. We do not reply to requests by e-mail." | 21:52 |
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| michael_Behman | So anyone knows where the contacts and the messages are stored on N9? | 22:57 |
| michael_Behman | Any ideas? | 23:04 |
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| special | michael_Behman: tracker. | 23:13 |
| michael_Behman | special, and where is that? | 23:16 |
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| michael_Behman | special, /usr/share/tracker? | 23:17 |
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| michael_Behman | special, I understand that I should be using tracker-control ( with -b option to backup ) please correct me if I'm wrong. And if so, any ideas how I restore it later? | 23:25 |
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| loin | michael_Behman, after my device froze, i backed up all my contacts to nokia.com | 23:56 |
| loin | a little late for you now, i'm afraid | 23:56 |
| michael_Behman | I managed to get all my files. But apparently I lost all my contacts and messages. | 23:58 |
| michael_Behman | loin, better than nothing. | 23:58 |
| loin | how did you access the device? | 23:59 |
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