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| xavinux | Hi RzR, how are you..are you working with debian packages for harmattan? | 04:46 |
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| xavinux | hi people, is someonr packaging software for harmattan? | 05:22 |
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| thedead1440 | Jonni: is there a max number of partitions Harmattan supports as this thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89434 ? Thanks! | 07:11 |
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| Jonni | thedead1440: no idea, most likely same limit as any linux machine with that kernel. | 07:36 |
| thedead1440 | Jonni: oh ok; will find about the limit. so far only found that RHEL used to have a 16partition limit | 07:37 |
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| thedead1440 | hmm 15/16 partitions indeed was the limit for the kernel till 2.6.28 (http://forums.justlinux.com/showthread.php?152404-What-is-the-maximum-No.-of-hard-disk-partitions-after-kernel-2.6.28); might be a Harmattan limitation then | 07:42 |
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| Jonni | thedead1440: well harmattan has 2.6.32, and sfdisk is in firmware images, so it might go upto 60 something... | 07:47 |
| thedead1440 | Jonni: thanks! so the poster is having some other kind of issue then... | 07:48 |
| Jonni | well, or kernels handle mmbblk devices differently, as those posts usually handle real disks | 07:49 |
| Jonni | mmcblk even | 07:50 |
| thedead1440 | hmm could be that then | 07:50 |
| Jonni | he should play with sfdisk or be sure, I have no use for that many partitions so atleast I wont be playing with sfdisk to see the limit | 07:50 |
| Jonni | to be even | 07:50 |
| thedead1440 | hehe | 07:50 |
| thedead1440 | found it: http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1008.2/01021.html | 07:51 |
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| Jonni | so he can compile custom kernel if he wants more | 07:54 |
| thedead1440 | yup | 07:55 |
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| suosaask1 | How secure is bt (on N9)? is it preferred over the crap wep encryption offered by n9 for internet sharing? and is it secure to keep bt on all the time if it set to be nonvisible? And hows batterylife bt vs wlan? | 08:20 |
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| juiceme | Jonni, ping | 11:24 |
| Jonni | juiceme: pong | 11:25 |
| juiceme | Jonni, the raster of the pcb connector under the sim tray seems to be 1.25mm. How did you make the adapter you are using as a replacemet for the sim tray? | 11:26 |
| juiceme | did oyu use some existing piece of an adapter or did you make it by hand? | 11:26 |
| Jonni | made by hand | 11:26 |
| juiceme | using just some springs to make connection? | 11:27 |
| juiceme | it should be possible indeed to take an existing sim adapter and drill some holes in it to put spring loaded contacts in thee... | 11:28 |
| Jonni | heh my first version was a really hack withtout any springs, but yes springs makes it easier to connect | 11:28 |
| juiceme | perhaps I should get a replacement sim-card holder for hacking... I remember its possible to het lumia800 holders fairly cheap, and they should be mechanically compatible... | 11:29 |
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| xavinux | hi people, how eare you. Would like to know if someones is working on software packaging, I would like to help in that | 12:16 |
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| ZogG_laptop | ~ping | 13:47 |
| GeneralAntilles | ZogG_laptop, BB10 is pretty damn slick. | 13:49 |
| ZogG_laptop | GeneralAntilles: i have problems with rreturning dev b to get zqo LE =( | 13:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | GeneralAntilles: can you tell me more how metawatch integration works? | 13:58 |
| ZogG_laptop | is it daemon or what? | 13:58 |
| dm8tbr | hmm? | 14:02 |
| dm8tbr | metawatch on harmattan is just sowatch | 14:02 |
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| GeneralAntilles | ZogG_laptop, just a daemon on Harmattan that listens for notifications from dbus and writes to the watch with Bluetooth serial | 14:05 |
| dm8tbr | and with a bit of fiddling you can make it work also with the latest watch models | 14:06 |
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| ZogG_laptop | GeneralAntilles: for notification settings try to search for permissions of apps | 14:07 |
| pa | is it still possible to request bb10 devices from RIM? | 14:07 |
| pa | i tried once, got no answer | 14:07 |
| GeneralAntilles | Dm8tbr, never had luck with that. | 14:08 |
| GeneralAntilles | Don't think so, pa. | 14:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | pa: i think you are too late | 14:09 |
| GeneralAntilles | I don't know how Android users do it, their IRC clients are all so mediocre. | 14:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | pa: they were given away at JAMs | 14:09 |
| pa | hm.. what is HAM? | 14:09 |
| pa | sorry, JAM | 14:10 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yaaic is at least available for BB10, I guess. | 14:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | pa: like conference | 14:10 |
| pa | ah i see | 14:10 |
| pa | btw i must say z10 is not very pretty | 14:11 |
| pa | and the edges of the screen are the worst thing, probably | 14:11 |
| ZogG_laptop | pa: i wish there was harmattan succsesor but nope | 14:12 |
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| leinir | a JAM is very much like a Jam, except you shout it ;) | 14:12 |
| pa | ZogG_laptop, yes, it's interesting to see how, after how much? 3 years of the release, there's still nothing better | 14:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | leinir: right :) | 14:13 |
| pa | Elop can throw as many iphones as he wants, he's not gonna sell the lumias :) | 14:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | lumias lol | 14:13 |
| pa | especially now that MS will start making winphones themselves | 14:13 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Z10 is quite nice in person | 14:14 |
| GeneralAntilles | Very pleasant to hold and use | 14:14 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I like the Z10 too | 14:14 |
| pa | i saw on videos it's pretty smooth | 14:14 |
| pa | i mean, it should, being qnx.. | 14:15 |
| leinir | come on, UPS, bring me my shiny! ;) | 14:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | MFaro-Tusino: you are lumia fanboy :) | 14:15 |
| dm8tbr | GeneralAntilles: mine works fine. I have a FRAME | 14:15 |
| ZogG_laptop | leinir: you didn;t pay for the return of dev b right? | 14:16 |
| pa | btw, i will hopefully get a nexus 10 soon : )) | 14:16 |
| pa | finally ubuntu on a tablet | 14:16 |
| dm8tbr | GeneralAntilles: I had to install an older version that doesn't seem to check for unsupported devices. Wanted to rebuild it but didn't get a working dev-env that would compile all of metawatch | 14:16 |
| dm8tbr | er sowatch | 14:16 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I'm a Nokia fanboy actually ZogG_laptop | 14:16 |
| pa | but i will miss Good Reader, it's pretty great | 14:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | STRATA's having trouble | 14:17 |
| leinir | ZogG_laptop: No, just had to wrap it up, print the shipping sheet thing they send out, and then arrange the pickup :) Oh, mine's an a, not a b, but that shouldn't matter :) | 14:17 |
| MFaro-Tusino | But stemming from that, I love Qt and gestures (from the N9 obviously) | 14:17 |
| GeneralAntilles | New 1.x firmware or old 3.x? | 14:17 |
| ZogG_laptop | leinir: i talked to UPS they keep telling me i need to pay =( | 14:17 |
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| dm8tbr | GeneralAntilles: mine has the same internals as a strata | 14:17 |
| MFaro-Tusino | so Z10 is a natural extension of that | 14:17 |
| leinir | ZogG_laptop: they can fuck right off, pardon my French. Talk with the jam support people, they'll help | 14:18 |
| leinir | UPS support isn't :P | 14:18 |
| GeneralAntilles | 1.x MetaWatch firmware protocol changed. | 14:18 |
| leinir | MFaro-Tusino: Technically the gesture stuff on bb10 is more a progression of what's on the playbook, but... they /are/ very pleasantly similar :) | 14:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | leinir: talked to UPs talked to support of blackberry and they forwarded to other people | 14:18 |
| dm8tbr | GeneralAntilles: I'm on sowatch 0.3.1 and it works, modulo some minor quirks | 14:19 |
| ZogG_laptop | dm8tbr: on harmattan? | 14:19 |
| dm8tbr | yes | 14:19 |
| leinir | ZogG_laptop: grah... that's really dumb... Well, if you have the shipping sheet from when you did the "i would like this thing picked up" and then didn't... just go through the schedule a pickup form on ups' website :) | 14:20 |
| dm8tbr | the time overwrites the upper part of the display. I suspect it's a protocol problem. But didn't have the time to investigate | 14:20 |
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| ZogG_laptop | leinir: i talked to them and they want me to pay (UPS) | 14:21 |
| ZogG_laptop | i called them to orginizze pickup | 14:21 |
| leinir | Hmm... that's not right... | 14:21 |
| leinir | it is supposed to be free | 14:22 |
| GeneralAntilles | Dm8tbr, which watch firmware version? | 14:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | leinir: yeah they said theat BB provided bill account but the shipment is fileld as the sender pays(there are those types who pays and they messed it up or UPS messing it up) | 14:23 |
| dm8tbr | 1.35 477.412 | 14:23 |
| GeneralAntilles | Stupid Android ports won't let you work around autocapitalization. | 14:23 |
| dm8tbr | which should be latest | 14:24 |
| GeneralAntilles | Interesting. I'll have to play with that today. | 14:24 |
| dm8tbr | oh and sometimes the watch crashes and needs a hard reset by charging clip | 14:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | dm8tbr: lol | 14:24 |
| ZogG_laptop | we finally got to this point | 14:25 |
| dm8tbr | I suspect the watch firmware doesn't fail gracefully on Sowatch speaking an outdated protocol | 14:25 |
| ZogG_laptop | when watches can crash | 14:25 |
| dm8tbr | yeah, and this is just a microcontroller. TI MSP430 | 14:25 |
| dm8tbr | but I've seen watches crash long long ago too | 14:25 |
| dm8tbr | casio and all that | 14:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | next would be — my toilet rebooted on me just in the most important moument :) | 14:26 |
| dm8tbr | GeneralAntilles: on the first public firmware, the time wouldn't show, but all notifications etc worked | 14:27 |
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| ZogG_laptop | time is the main thing of watch, isn't it? | 14:28 |
| dm8tbr | GeneralAntilles: if there are metawatch users I could be persuaded to look into a bugfixed later version that would allow connecting and maybe even fix the protocol problems if someone helps | 14:29 |
| dm8tbr | ZogG_laptop: you'd be surprised. I actually used it like that for a couple of weeks and was very happy with just the notification functionality. | 14:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | still not sure if i want to buy it or not | 14:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's costy :) | 14:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | i don't have even a regular watch for like 6-7 years | 14:31 |
| * dm8tbr neither | 14:31 | |
| dm8tbr | I mainly wear it for the notification functionality. it's pure awesome that I never miss a phone call or text message. You can't ignore the wrist-vibration. bonus, it works still if I forget the phone in the coat pocket and sit down at the desk | 14:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | dm8tbr: i don't get too much calls :(((( | 14:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | i'm forever alone :(( | 14:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | but i want it as i think it's awesome and interesting gadget with nice possibilities :) | 14:35 |
| dm8tbr | well, it can notify you about xmpp messages, scheduled events, etc too | 14:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | wazapp? :) | 14:36 |
| dm8tbr | sure | 14:36 |
| dm8tbr | as long as that goes to the regular event feed | 14:36 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Anything that pops a notification shows on the watch. | 15:01 |
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| xavinux | GeneralAntilles: Would like to know if someones is working on software packaging, I would like to help in that | 15:24 |
| thedead1440 | xavinux: seeing as you have asked the same thing multiple times; why not package *anything* that interests you for Harmattan and post it on TMO? You can check if its been packaged before by searching Rzr's repo; if it isn't there then most likely your skills are worth working on the packaging :) | 15:29 |
| xavinux | thank you for your answer thedead1440 | 15:35 |
| thedead1440 | np | 15:35 |
| xavinux | how can I check Rzr's repo? | 15:35 |
| thedead1440 | xavinux: a selfish request; would you be interested in packaging privoxy v3.20 for Harmattan? My compilation kept failing "_" | 15:35 |
| thedead1440 | Rzr's repo: deb http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/rzr:/harmattan/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/ ./ | 15:36 |
| xavinux | thedead1440: Sure | 15:37 |
| thedead1440 | thanks :D | 15:38 |
| xavinux | you also help doing packaging work? | 15:38 |
| thedead1440 | nah i'm an end-user :D | 15:38 |
| xavinux | ah ok | 15:40 |
| xavinux | I'm looking at RzR's repo | 15:42 |
| MFaro-Tusino | thedead1440: Hey :) | 15:42 |
| thedead1440 | MFaro-Tusino: hi; how's things? :D | 15:43 |
| MFaro-Tusino | good, playing with sailfish sdk, learning qt slowly | 15:43 |
| MFaro-Tusino | how did that proect of ours go? | 15:44 |
| MFaro-Tusino | *project | 15:44 |
| MFaro-Tusino | any luck getting it to work? | 15:44 |
| thedead1440 | hehe it went where all the others usually go; into the black-hole :D :D | 15:44 |
| MFaro-Tusino | figured as much :p | 15:45 |
| thedead1440 | :D | 15:45 |
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| thedead1440 | random thought: Now that we have ubiboot wouldn't it be possible to load the dail firmware from n950 onto n9s onto a separate partition? | 16:23 |
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| coderus__ | thedead1440: why not, but what is she daily images you talking about? | 16:28 |
| thedead1440 | coderus__: those ones that the user n950 got from the proto n950 he purchased; remember he tarred the file-system and uploaded it? | 16:28 |
| coderus__ | thedead1440: ah, Dali. so yes, you can try. | 16:29 |
| thedead1440 | yeah will need some tweaking of ubiboot script but i think it should be doable if the file-system he uploaded is actually not missing anything | 16:30 |
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| coderus__ | thedead1440: think about kernel version and modules first :D i think you need to downgrade your kernel version to run Dali | 16:33 |
| thedead1440 | coderus__: that's what i saw it uses v2.6.32.21 but we have v2.6.32.48 at the very least. If using ubiboot it is different since we can try different kernels to see which one works | 16:35 |
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| coderus__ | thedead1440: noone with different kernel version will work ;) | 16:36 |
| coderus__ | thedead1440: kernel modules and kernel should have exactly same version | 16:37 |
| thedead1440 | coderus__: i know that i mean copying over the modules of a newer version if a newer version kernel is used | 16:37 |
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| thedead1440 | its more likely going to be something i'll try over the weekend for the lolz ;) | 16:38 |
| coderus__ | thedead1440: that sounds much better :) | 16:39 |
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| xavinux | thedead1440: could you tell me please the error that you get when compiling privoxy on Hrmattan? | 16:55 |
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| thedead1440 | xavinux: unfortunately i deleted the logs as it was >2months ago and was pissed with not being able to compile it | 17:01 |
| xavinux | ok | 17:02 |
| coderus__ | thedead1440: isnt it was you, who shared privoxy for harmattan to me? | 17:04 |
| thedead1440 | coderus__: yup but that was v3.17 or v3.19 | 17:04 |
| thedead1440 | i failed with v3.20 | 17:05 |
| coderus__ | thedead1440: ok, where the sources? | 17:05 |
| coderus__ | i see latest maemo privoxy verision is 3.0.17-2 | 17:07 |
| thedead1440 | coderus__: http://privoxy.org/ | 17:07 |
| coderus__ | i'm compiling libmeegotouchcore0 with notifications blacklist =) | 17:09 |
| thedead1440 | what's notifications blacklist wrt libmeegotouchcore0? | 17:10 |
| coderus__ | just to deny some types of notifications, such as battery charged, remove charger and etc. | 17:11 |
| valdur55 | coderus__: good idea | 17:11 |
| thedead1440 | oh | 17:11 |
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| xavinux | thedead1440: what version of harmattan are you running? | 17:51 |
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| thedead1440 | xavinux: pr1.3 | 17:51 |
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| xavinux | ok thank ypu | 17:54 |
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| juiceme | and you have been hangign quite long @TMO, so that is a qualifier by itself :) | 17:56 |
| juiceme | arrgh, wrong channel... sorry | 17:56 |
| TMavica | LOL | 17:57 |
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| juiceme | :) | 17:58 |
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| valdur55 | Good. Installing new twitter | 19:30 |
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| phako | valdur55: worth it, the random freezes are gone | 19:50 |
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| valdur55 | Omg... still "no tweets" | 19:52 |
| valdur55 | What a hell. Installing twitter package causes mp-harmattan uninstalling | 19:53 |
| valdur55 | source: 500 https://downloads.maemo.nokia.com ./ Packages | 19:54 |
| valdur55 | Nice: 25/03/2013-20:02:37:151 CRITICAL-Error: Not found XDG_CACHE_HOME environment variable | 20:02 |
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| valdur55 | Jep. that is problem. export XDG_CACHE_HOME=~/.chache fixes the problem. | 20:06 |
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| valdur55 | Nice... lack of .profile | 20:10 |
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| valdur55 | Can anyone share right .profile ? I copied mine fom /etc/skel . | 20:11 |
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| valdur55 | Errr... My twitter problem is now solved, but maybe there are some other lines. | 20:13 |
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| valdur55 | Nice! Now i see twitter messages in feed :) | 20:29 |
| valdur55 | Sorry for spam. :P | 20:29 |
| valdur55 | I accidentaly deleted my /home/user and /home/user/Mydocs folders in one time :) | 20:30 |
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| rigo | I don't get the update of the twitter client yet. Perhaps the rollout is limited to Finnland? | 23:14 |
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| valdur55 | Whac region are you using? | 23:52 |
| valdur55 | s/Whac/What/ | 23:52 |
| infobot | valdur55 meant: What region are you using? | 23:52 |
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