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| yunta_ | hh | 17:06 |
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| yunta_ | oops | 17:06 |
| merlin1991 | hh ... harmattan? | 17:06 |
| yunta_ | :) | 17:07 |
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| thedead1440 | coderus: ping | 17:23 |
| thedead1440 | coderus: try this for the first time to boot into Harmattan via telnet: mount /mnt/2 | 17:24 |
| thedead1440 | /boot/menu/select_os_animated.sh ; echo $? | 17:24 |
| thedead1440 | /usr/bin/disable_pm ; kexec -e ; echo $? ; sleep 10 | 17:24 |
| thedead1440 | you should get "0" from the boot menu selection | 17:25 |
| thedead1440 | and the second line should boot things fine; after the first time you don't need to do this again for it to work properly | 17:25 |
| thedead1440 | also use nitdroid's preinit for harmattan instead of juiceme's preinit | 17:27 |
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| coderus | thedead1440: pong | 17:32 |
| thedead1440 | coderus: try what i mentioned; for first time boot using ubiboot do it via telnet | 17:33 |
| thedead1440 | after that things are always stable | 17:33 |
| coderus | thedead1440: how it related to me? :) | 17:33 |
| thedead1440 | you posted on TMO you had bme issue right? try to do via telnet | 17:33 |
| coderus | thedead1440: not me, my friend. i'll think how to tell him to use telnet. not sure in experience. | 17:34 |
| thedead1440 | ah | 17:34 |
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| coderus | thedead1440: maybe any modification to init to do it? | 17:37 |
| thedead1440 | coderus: not sure but personally when i first tried booting all 3 OSes i got blank screens. Doing it via telnet for first boot made things work and subsequent boot-ups i've had no issues | 17:38 |
| thedead1440 | ...so based on that modifying init is not something i think is really required... | 17:41 |
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| coderus | thedead1440: just to make changes in harmattan, if booted normally remove changes | 17:44 |
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| thedead1440 | coderus: hmm yeah maybe for first boot. It can be posted on TMO too for people facing issues or in the README. | 17:47 |
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| xavinux | Hi people, I am new here. Own a Nokia N9 and have knowledge of Linux, Would like to know if I can be usefull | 19:29 |
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| ladoga | hi xavi | 19:51 |
| xavinux | hi ladoga how are you | 19:52 |
| ladoga | and welcome :) | 19:55 |
| ladoga | are you familiar with maemo.org forums? | 19:55 |
| ladoga | maybe look there and see if you find something interesting | 19:56 |
| xavinux | hi people, how are younothing to do here? someone from maemo sent me here | 20:00 |
| ajalkane | We doing cool. How about you? | 20:00 |
| ajalkane | Nowadays I think we mostly just chill here. Doing nothing and stuff. | 20:01 |
| ladoga | :) | 20:02 |
| ajalkane | You should have been here 1.5 years ago. Man, this place was on fire. Daily bitchfest about aegis. Now we just roll with it on our rocking chairs. | 20:02 |
| xavinux | sorry I was not here before | 20:04 |
| ajalkane | It's never too late to start a bitchfest about aegis though. It's still entertaining after all these years. | 20:06 |
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| ladoga | except now many are using openmode...so it's kind of irrelevant | 20:07 |
| ladoga | but bitching about nokia's failures never gets old | 20:07 |
| xavinux | I understand. And what you think about the MER and TIZEN Projects, is the sucesor of Meego? | 20:10 |
| wmarone_ | Tizen is Bada with a Linux core | 20:11 |
| wmarone_ | Mer/Sailfish is the real MeeGo/Maemo successor, given who is behind it. What will become of it depends on the course Jolla decides to take. | 20:11 |
| ajalkane | ^ what he said. Tizen is boring. | 20:11 |
| wmarone_ | tizen was interesting, at least initially | 20:12 |
| ajalkane | I don't remember such time. | 20:12 |
| wmarone_ | but I have no faith in Samsung's software abilities even if they do hire people like Rasterman | 20:12 |
| wmarone_ | and with the big push of the Bada APIs into Tizen 2.0, I suspect that the linux-ness of the platform will be subdued in favor of Bada, something Samsung has much more control over. | 20:13 |
| ajalkane | As far as I remember, Tizen was always "HTML5 FTW" and native APIs suck | 20:13 |
| wmarone_ | They were but it was inevitable that would change | 20:13 |
| wmarone_ | there was no hope for them to force the issue, Javascript still doesn't have the performance | 20:14 |
| wmarone_ | and Tizen 2.0 finally added native apps. | 20:14 |
| ajalkane | So now it's HTML5 FTW and Bada APIs rocks for native API? | 20:14 |
| wmarone_ | apparently | 20:15 |
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| wmarone_ | not EFL, which was what kept people's attention | 20:15 |
| ajalkane | The lengths they go to avoid using Qt... :P | 20:15 |
| ajalkane | EFL could have been interesting if it was truly supported native API. | 20:16 |
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| wmarone_ | right, and everyone thought it would be | 20:16 |
| wmarone_ | then the Bada APIs came along, and well... | 20:16 |
| wmarone_ | great way to kill interest! | 20:16 |
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| ajalkane | I knew they were using heavily EFL in the background, but all the talk they gave had me sceptical it'd be directly supported native API | 20:17 |
| wmarone_ | Tizen as a whole isn't very open, either. It has too much of the top-down mindset that is typical for Samsung. | 20:17 |
| wmarone_ | if you're a 3rd party that wants an open platform to leverage, Mer is way, way better as an option. | 20:17 |
| ajalkane | Yeah it seems just very controlled platform that you can't influence in anyway. So there's no motivation for an enthusiast for trying to contribute to it | 20:18 |
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| xavinux | ok I agree | 20:20 |
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| wmarone_ | speaking of open mode, I need to move my N9 to that | 20:22 |
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| ladoga | wmarone_: here are steps I used http://raspi.dy.fi/ladoga/harmattan/docs/openmode.txt | 20:40 |
| wmarone_ | ty | 20:41 |
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| ladoga | though it's good to browse through all threads on TMO about it even if lenghty and sometimes confusing | 20:42 |
| wmarone_ | yup | 20:43 |
| wmarone_ | I figure open mode will suffice until Nemo becomes a fully capable replacement | 20:44 |
| wmarone_ | and I get my hands on whatever Jolla releases. | 20:44 |
| ladoga | for example some more knowledgeable people than me advice against removing aegis mounts | 20:44 |
| wmarone_ | makes sense | 20:45 |
| wmarone_ | I suspect some of the user space expects them to be there | 20:45 |
| ladoga | though i haven't experienced any adverse effects | 20:45 |
| ladoga | yes | 20:46 |
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| ladoga | I haven't installed many apps. GPS works and I haven't seen increased battery drain (stable 3mA average idle on energy saving mode) | 20:49 |
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| ladoga | so circa 16days idle uptime on one charge. no apps crashing or going unresponsive either | 20:51 |
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| ladoga | but there's not much (if anything) to gain by removing them | 20:53 |
| ladoga | so better safe than sorry i'd say | 20:53 |
| ladoga | them* aegis mounts | 20:54 |
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| jabis | reflashed my niner - still no camera - bahhh only if I could back to previous firmware -.- | 21:00 |
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| jabis | camera-ui bitched once about not having enough diskspace on /home/user/.omap3 something - and the file actually isn't there - when the camera fires up properly - the file is there with 0600 only permission as user:metadata | 21:01 |
| jabis | (ps. full reflash 1.1GB used out of the 2GB, so ye there is room to create files) | 21:06 |
| jabis | ok - the issue is generated after system touches a user:metadata file in /home/user/.qcamera <- removing this file enables the camera-ui to start again | 21:10 |
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