| Pali | Jonni, how is flashing CAL handled in harmattan? | 00:06 |
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| Pali | and also backup? | 00:06 |
| Pali | via softupd? | 00:06 |
| Pali | or has for it NOLO some OPCODE? | 00:06 |
| Jonni | its only allowed if you have R&D cert by default, although there are ways around it- | 00:07 |
| Jonni | but yes in doftupd | 00:08 |
| Jonni | softupd | 00:08 |
| Pali | Jonni, I'm asking because I'd like to know if it is also possible on fremantle n90 | 00:09 |
| Pali | *n900 | 00:09 |
| Pali | where R&D cert is not used | 00:09 |
| Jonni | I dont remember the details but I believe that in fremantle you can freely copy and restore cal | 00:10 |
| Pali | it is possible from working maemo system | 00:10 |
| Pali | but is there way how to restore it if I damage maemo system? | 00:10 |
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| Jonni | afaik in fremantle you can always load custom kernel and initfs and just dd cal back in place. | 00:13 |
| Pali | Jonni, will NOLO load kernel if CAL is damaged? | 00:19 |
| Jonni | Pali: nope | 00:20 |
| Pali | so then it is not possible to restore damaged CAL | 00:21 |
| Jonni | only thing that runs is the bb5signed ape-algo kernel, so you can only restore cal on harmattan if you have r&d cert | 00:21 |
| Jonni | well I havent tested external flasher boxes, so it might be that some JAF flasher or somethings would able to do some deeplevel hacks, but I doubt it | 00:23 |
| Pali | Jonni, I mean fremantle n900 | 00:24 |
| Jonni | ah on fremantle flasher -l -b -k mostlikely works | 00:25 |
| Jonni | and that way you can restore the cal | 00:25 |
| Pali | also when cal is damaged? will fremantle nolo boot kernel? | 00:25 |
| Jonni | I would assume that, but I havent played enough with N900 to be sure. | 00:26 |
| Pali | ok, I do not want to damage it, but I'd like be sure that I will be able to fix any SW error... | 00:27 |
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| MohammadAG | DocScrutinizer05, no sources here :P | 00:59 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | shrug | 01:00 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I guess there's a DVD image on my cloud-7 server | 01:00 |
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| MohammadAG | bah, no git page? | 01:01 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | palyes it does | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pali: | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | pali: we had that nandtester guy | 01:03 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | after reflashing he had a booting system | 01:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | coldflashing | 01:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I suggested he restored his CAL to an image I provided, but I never again heard of him | 01:05 |
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| juiceme | morning | 07:29 |
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| juiceme | Jonni, ping | 07:31 |
| Jonni | juiceme: pong | 07:31 |
| juiceme | about that flash_erase, since that is the most dangerous thing, do you think it is even necessary? | 07:32 |
| juiceme | What if I just create an ubifs system on mtd4, without flash_erase | 07:33 |
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| juiceme | If I remove that command from the instructions, so that people do not accidentally erase their CAL | 07:34 |
| Jonni | have to do some experiments before I can say if its necessary | 07:36 |
| Hurrian | juiceme, not really your fault if they aim flash_erase at mtd1 | 07:36 |
| Hurrian | or, even more stupidly, flash_eraseall. | 07:37 |
| juiceme | Hurrian, :( | 07:37 |
| juiceme | but still, I feel responsible if somebody does it by accident. | 07:37 |
| Hurrian | juiceme, well, Linux's flash layer will take care of setting bits properly, but it's always good to erase it just once, to make sure everything's in order. | 07:38 |
| juiceme | and more, as Jonni demonstrated yesterday, if you have ubifs attached on mtd4, and do a flash_erase, it will can possibly blow your CAL even as you give the correct commands (there is a bug somewhere...) | 07:39 |
| Hurrian | also, tell the guy who's getting -EPERM to run those commands under devel-su, and not opensh. | 07:39 |
| Hurrian | juiceme: holy crap, why | 07:39 |
| juiceme | Hurrian, read back yesterday night's logs | 07:40 |
| Hurrian | that's gotta be a kernel bug, or you're not passing the MTD partitions to kernel properly | 07:40 |
| juiceme | could be a bug in the handling of the secure areas of nand, it should be no way possible to override the read-only bits | 07:41 |
| Hurrian | juiceme: NAND being read-only is an artificial limitation of NOLO, iirc. | 07:42 |
| Hurrian | and it's RO only to the OS. | 07:42 |
| Hurrian | you can dd kernels onto mtd2 (or was it 3)? | 07:42 |
| Hurrian | but flasher refuses to flash kernels because of some silly flag. | 07:43 |
| juiceme | yes. altough this opens up intresting (yet dangerous) possibilities... | 07:43 |
| Hurrian | juiceme: such as wiping out the NAND entirely? | 07:44 |
| juiceme | :P | 07:44 |
| juiceme | No, I was thinking generally of overriding the read-only bits | 07:45 |
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| Hurrian | juiceme, iirc on previous experiments on the N900 where someone wiped CAL, as long as there's a kernel on-device it still booted. | 07:46 |
| juiceme | Another thing I was thinking about, after this disaster with flash_erase | 07:46 |
| Hurrian | Well, BT and WIFI MAC addresses were wiped, but it boots. | 07:46 |
| juiceme | Hurrian, N900 might be a differnt beast, maybe the bootloader works different way | 07:47 |
| Hurrian | juiceme: maybe NOLO crashes because it can't properly read the ConF entries for serial number etc. to be passed to the kernel? | 07:47 |
| juiceme | But, what I mean, maybe I should try to make the ubiboot loader start not from ubifs, but from initramfs. | 07:48 |
| Hurrian | juiceme: and where do you put this initramfs? | 07:48 |
| juiceme | That was my original goal, but it has some drawbacks, like not havin persistent storage | 07:48 |
| Hurrian | juiceme: is the MOSLO partition on the N9 blanked? | 07:49 |
| juiceme | so boot.conf at least needs to be stored on mmcblk0p2, for example | 07:49 |
| juiceme | Hurrian, I would put my initramfs on mmcblk0p2 | 07:50 |
| Hurrian | I thought an advantage of ubiboot was 'set it and forget it'? | 07:50 |
| Hurrian | You could wipe the entire eMMC, and reflash from ubiboot, not ever touching Flasher again. | 07:51 |
| juiceme | Actually I only need to change the command line parameters of the 1stboot kernel to load up the initramfs, like from /boot/ og mmcblk0p2 for example | 07:51 |
| Hurrian | juiceme: it should probably be an option for users. | 07:52 |
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| juiceme | Hurrian, set-and-forget, yes, but when you need to change kernels for example, you need to edit boot.conf | 07:52 |
| Hurrian | Flash a kernel that loads from eMMC, or a slightly more bulletproof one that loads off mtd4. | 07:52 |
| Hurrian | juiceme: emergency kernel could be stored on a different dir on ubifs, and points to mmcblk0p2 with init=/sbin/preinit | 07:53 |
| juiceme | The only problem about using mtd4 is the flash_erase, I would not wish anyone to end up like Jonni with their device. (for most people it is their only N9...) | 07:54 |
| Hurrian | With that, and a bz2 of Harmattan root stored, it might be possible to make "Downgrade disallowed" irrelevant. | 07:54 |
| Hurrian | juiceme, about that, the mtd layer should probably be checked for bugfixes integrated in newer kernels. | 07:55 |
| juiceme | Hurrian, now I get what you mean :) | 07:55 |
| Hurrian | because I'm pretty sure that's a bug. | 07:56 |
| juiceme | It's highly likely. somehow the flash_erase command leaked over the partition boundaries, something that should not ever happen. | 07:57 |
| Hurrian | yep. | 07:57 |
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| Jonni | it might be that I still was on secure mode when I did flash erase on mtd4, maybe I should have triggered open mode first and then do the commands | 08:05 |
| Jonni | as in openmode cal would have been better protected | 08:05 |
| juiceme | Had you recently reflashed your device to factory settings? | 08:06 |
| thedead1440 | Buying a N9: ~$300; Watching Jonni permbrick his N9: Priceless :D :D | 08:09 |
| juiceme | That's borderline cruel! | 08:09 |
| juiceme | :P | 08:09 |
| thedead1440 | hehe its fair as he has access to all tools we mere mortals don't have :D | 08:09 |
| juiceme | except for the tool that really would make the difference here, factory mode JTAG flasher.. | 08:11 |
| Jonni | heh, dont worry, I still have plenty of spare devices, so one brick doesnt affect me :) | 08:18 |
| Jonni | now I atleast have yet another spare display :) | 08:18 |
| juiceme | and spare battery :) | 08:19 |
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| Jonni | ah yes that too | 08:19 |
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| Jonni | juiceme: new day on debugging, it seems that sometimes harmattan kernel freezes on boot, the last line coming out to console is: "[ 1.106842] Power Management for TI OMAP3." | 08:40 |
| Jonni | thats using stock kernel, next I'll try to l2fixed version | 08:43 |
| Jonni | same failure...ohwell, have to try something different next | 08:46 |
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| Jonni | heh, interesting /mmcblk0p2 only had boot-orig, so nemo mer scripts messed up... so I'll just have to start from scratch :) | 08:49 |
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| juiceme | Jonni, have you measued how much slower the stock kernel boots when comparing to the l2-fixed? | 08:59 |
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| juiceme | Jonni, did you get the power management error on both vanilla and l2-fixed kernel? | 09:00 |
| Jonni | juiceme: yep, but most likely that is because p2 device was empty and it could not launch preinit | 09:00 |
| juiceme | ah, ok. | 09:01 |
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| Jonni | juiceme: now Im again on working dualbooting moslo... and this time in openmode.... next I'll try the ubiboot | 09:22 |
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| Jonni | juiceme: and that experimented failed as this devices mtd4 is readonly, most likely too many ecc errors have triggered ro bit. There is a reason why mtd4 was not used in final product :) | 10:00 |
| juiceme | Okay, seems I need to create another option at least for the people having difficulties with mtd4 use. | 10:01 |
| Jonni | ie I would prefer seeing ubiboot version that uses mmcblk0p3 as exporting that partition is not that important, its enough to export 1,2,4 | 10:01 |
| juiceme | That would most likey be creating a initramfs based version, booting off a file on mmcblk0p2 | 10:02 |
| Jonni | well that works too :) | 10:02 |
| juiceme | well yes, that is the other option. | 10:02 |
| juiceme | so there are three alternatives to do it :) | 10:02 |
| juiceme | as the whole bootFS is only 14MB, it can be put to a lot of places :) | 10:03 |
| Hurrian | juiceme: one more alternative: appending an initramfs onto the kernel image. | 10:03 |
| juiceme | Hurrian, that sounds nice also, but it would then be stored on NAND also, right? | 10:04 |
| juiceme | is there space enough to do that? | 10:04 |
| Hurrian | juiceme, but it'd be flashed once using flasher, which is known to be bretty safe | 10:04 |
| juiceme | true | 10:04 |
| juiceme | Jonni, Yesterday you told me that CAL is mtd2, but that partition is labeled as "kernel" | 10:05 |
| Jonni | cal is mtd1, I just tupoed | 10:05 |
| juiceme | if it is so, where is the kernel stored? | 10:05 |
| Jonni | mtd2 is the kernel | 10:05 |
| juiceme | ah, thouhgt so :) | 10:06 |
| juiceme | ... gotta go to a pronto meeting... (bugfix planning and deployment) I'll be back... | 10:07 |
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| juiceme | Can anyone lighten me up on a subject? | 14:01 |
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| juiceme | This guy death_jax seems to be certain that running in Open Mode causes some random crashes etc, especially related to N9Qtweak.. what is he tlaking about? | 14:02 |
| juiceme | Since I have been running in open mode just about since I got my device and I cannot really say I have any misbehavoiur with my device. (but I don't use N9QuickTweak) | 14:03 |
| juiceme | thedead1440, ping | 14:05 |
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| Hurrian | juiceme: he probably installed some crappy patches or w/e | 14:17 |
| Hurrian | if anything, there should be /less/ crashes on Openmode | 14:18 |
| Hurrian | and fwiw, I haven't experienced an app crash on Harmattan yet | 14:18 |
| Jonni | openmode doesnt cause any random crashes, if he is experiencing crashes, then its caused by himself :) | 14:21 |
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| juiceme | I kind of assumed this is the case... furthermore, he seems unaware of the differences between degrees of open mode. | 14:48 |
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| thedead1440 | juiceme: pong | 15:07 |
| thedead1440 | the open mode issue is basically when using N9QTweak and installing unrestricted system-ui and the related applets, the app would close after maybe 2 or 3 applets being installed | 15:09 |
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| thedead1440 | this is mainly due to a soft refresh (restarting of status bar) being conducted by either N9QTweak after each applet's installation or for some applets its in their postinst to do a soft refresh | 15:10 |
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| thedead1440 | the same thing when done using inception tends not to exit mid-way thru the installation process hence the myth that open mode is the cause for app crashes | 15:11 |
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| thedead1440 | around 1.5-2.5months ago this issue was solved in N9QTweak but again re-introduced as the solved method didn't work always. N9QTweak simply does dpkg -i /path/to/deb for each applet so its the unrestricted sys-ui and the frequent soft refreshes to blame instead of open mode /per se/ | 15:12 |
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| thedead1440 | Ah you pinged me because he mentioned me; I wonder why people without possession of full facts blame me for their lack of knowledge :( | 15:14 |
| Hurrian | thedead1440: you're the Harmattan kids' deity when it comes to Harmattan bugs, apparently | 15:14 |
| thedead1440 | lol | 15:15 |
| thedead1440 | its tiring to keep explaining people why they are having issues when its been covered so many times before | 15:15 |
| Hurrian | thedead1440, it's the Internet Forum Syndrome. | 15:15 |
| thedead1440 | i bet he'll send me a PM soon asking me to post for him... :( | 15:15 |
| Hurrian | No one ever bothers to use "site:talk.maemo.org $MYPROBLEM" | 15:16 |
| thedead1440 | indeed | 15:16 |
| thedead1440 | death_jax's issue is because english isn't his first language so he doesn't seem to exactly understand and express himself | 15:16 |
| Hurrian | jeez, don't people bother trying to learn the language anymore? | 15:17 |
| thedead1440 | Hurrian: you would be surprised the number of people who post using google translate | 15:18 |
| Hurrian | Wow. | 15:18 |
| Hurrian | Well, to Google Translate's credit, it's getting pretty good for a machine translator, but not the kind of thing I'd use for highly technical documents. | 15:19 |
| Hurrian | ~aegis-no-thanks | 15:19 |
| infobot | aegis-no-thanks is probably http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/, or http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/1.2/openmode-kernel/, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1178281#post1178281 | 15:19 |
| thedead1440 | A standard PM i rec'd from a few days ago: "be indulgent with my English (google translation) .." | 15:19 |
| Hurrian | Good infobot. | 15:19 |
| Hurrian | ~botsnack | 15:19 |
| infobot | aw, gee, Hurrian | 15:19 |
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| thedead1440 | shouldn't that factoid have the link for openmode kernel pr1.3? | 15:20 |
| Hurrian | thedead1440: it seems that the guy complaining about Openmode hasn't cleared out aegisfs.d. | 15:21 |
| thedead1440 | Hurrian: indeed most people don't clear it out | 15:21 |
| thedead1440 | ask him to post df output you'll see it | 15:21 |
| Hurrian | I blame the old NITDroid instructions for not making it clear enough. | 15:21 |
| thedead1440 | indeed even the Aegis&Open Mode thread doesn't have it | 15:22 |
| thedead1440 | I learned it thanks to ladoga | 15:22 |
| thedead1440 | Maybe i should moderate the first post of the Open Mode thread with the instructions to clear it out | 15:22 |
| thedead1440 | goodness me the first post is so long-winded i don't have the mood to add to it :s | 15:24 |
| Hurrian | There, edited my sig. | 15:25 |
| Hurrian | It should hopefully make it abundantly clear to TMO users who haven't heard of aegisfs. | 15:25 |
| thedead1440 | yup :) | 15:26 |
| thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: i went down to the repair shop and he quoted me $120 (74Eur) to repair it without even looking at it properly. I gave him the finger; looks like some more searching needs to be done... | 15:27 |
| Hurrian | oh, on an unrelated side note, it seems that the failed writes to CAL area are likely related to WiFi radio adjusting parameters. | 15:29 |
| ladoga | i learned it from some random post by hurrian. I actually thought removing aegis mounts was merely cosmetic | 15:30 |
| thedead1440 | Hurrian: didn't know that. Btw does 1 bad block in mtd4 swap mean anything? My dmesg gives: "mtdswap: Enabling MTD swap on device 4, size 422144 KB, 183 spare, 1 bad blocks" | 15:31 |
| Hurrian | thedead1440: meh, usual life of a NAND flash. | 15:31 |
| Hurrian | got one on my N900, zero on my N9 so far, but I have ECC corrections every time I attach mtd4 to ubi0. | 15:32 |
| thedead1440 | Seems its time to retire this N9 :( | 15:32 |
| Hurrian | thedead1440, not so fast. | 15:32 |
| thedead1440 | Hurrian: my power button is really unstable; moving the phone a bit and it reboots | 15:33 |
| Hurrian | wow. | 15:33 |
| Hurrian | It shorts the button for that long? | 15:33 |
| thedead1440 | that's the one i was referring to above; the repair shop says S$120 to fix it when i bet he knows shit about it | 15:34 |
| Hurrian | thedead1440: you may, in the future, due to swap, burn out the area occupied by mtd4, but everything /should/ still work. | 15:34 |
| thedead1440 | i printed the whole service manual (levels 1,2,3) and took for his reference too but bloody fsker wants $120 | 15:34 |
| Hurrian | thedead1440: the part to be replaced probably isn't worth US$5. | 15:34 |
| thedead1440 | exactly | 15:34 |
| thedead1440 | Doc says its most probably just requiring a cleaning of dirt/dust | 15:35 |
| thedead1440 | hmm i wonder if rd-mode allows the disabling of power button functionality | 15:35 |
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| Hurrian | thedead1440: disable the button in board config | 15:35 |
| thedead1440 | in /etc/mce/mce.ini ? | 15:36 |
| thedead1440 | i disabled it there | 15:36 |
| thedead1440 | but when in LPM it toggles the lockscreen and still switches off | 15:36 |
| Hurrian | No, in the kernel's config. | 15:36 |
| thedead1440 | oh how do i do that? | 15:36 |
| Hurrian | board-rm696-something | 15:36 |
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| thedead1440 | Hurrian: adding twl4030_pwrbutton to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf is sufficient right? it seems not to work now :D :D | 15:55 |
| Hurrian | It's sufficient. | 15:55 |
| thedead1440 | thanks for this idea ;) now its not too urgent to get it repaired :D | 15:55 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | disabling hw powerbutton completely doesn't work | 16:02 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | if system/kernel ignores powerbutton completely, standard hw shutdown function will kick in afaik | 16:03 |
| Hurrian | DocScrutinizer05, well, it gives thedead1440 around 5 more seconds before shutdown is initiated. | 16:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | otherwise no way to powerdown/reset a hung system | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, that's true | 16:04 |
| Hurrian | instead of the roughly 2-3 seconds press needed to shutdown Harmattan | 16:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer05 | hw shutdown is 8s iirc | 16:04 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | but honestly I wonder if that helps | 16:05 |
| thedead1440 | so even if the module is blacklisted it still can reboot? | 16:05 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | hw shutdown is sw independant | 16:06 |
| Hurrian | thedead1440, if the OS doesn't explicitly prevent TWL4030 from shutting down, yes, but it'll take a longer press on the button to shut down. | 16:06 |
| thedead1440 | now can the OS explicitly prevent it other than blacklisting the module? | 16:06 |
| thedead1440 | s/now/how/ | 16:06 |
| infobot | thedead1440 meant: how can the OS explicitly prevent it other than blacklisting the module? | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yes, it can reset the timer before it expires | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sort of watchdog | 16:07 |
| thedead1440 | hmm so a watchdog monitors the twl4030_pwrbutton and resets it every few seconds? | 16:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | you press and hold powerbutton -> 8s timer starts -> when exoirng, it does hw shutdown | 16:07 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | sw can reste that timer | 16:08 |
| thedead1440 | yup just tried it; it restarts with a 8s press | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | it can reset but not stop / disable it | 16:09 |
| thedead1440 | how would the reset occur? | 16:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | I2C command to twl4030 iirc | 16:09 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | done somewhere in kernel | 16:10 |
| thedead1440 | is there some kind of command for it? something that while sleep 7; do xxx; done can monitor? | 16:10 |
| thedead1440 | oh i2c; so i would need i2ctools? | 16:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | yep, probably | 16:10 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | though I guess the kernel driver for hw powerbutton will lock that addr on i2c-bus | 16:11 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | so i2cset can't access it | 16:11 |
| thedead1440 | DocScrutinizer05: is there any way to assign the power button's full functionality (incl 8s turn off) to one of the volume keys? | 16:12 |
| Hurrian | thedead1440: you can assign the OS-level function, but not the 8s shutdown. | 16:15 |
| thedead1440 | Hurrian: i assigned the vol up for unlocking the screen but yeah the 8s turn off is the main thing | 16:15 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | thedead1440: no, probably not | 16:16 |
| Hurrian | thedead1440: try your N9 out for a day, and see how often it restarts with an 8s timeout for shutdown instead of 2s. | 16:16 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | since 8s off is a function in tel4030, not in CPU | 16:16 |
| thedead1440 | Hurrian: will do that; hopefully i get a capable repair shop tomorrow. Will go to Nokia Care too just in case they are of some help | 16:17 |
| thedead1440 | hmm even though i added twl4030_pwrbutton to blacklist.conf it still loads at boot-up. | 16:20 |
| Hurrian | thedead1440: rm the module ;) | 16:22 |
| Hurrian | Replace it with a 0length file. | 16:22 |
| thedead1440 | i did a modprobe -r on it for now | 16:23 |
| thedead1440 | if its fixed tomorrow i'll need it again anyway :D | 16:23 |
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| thedead1440 | thanks to you and DocScrutinizer05 :) | 16:24 |
| DocScrutinizer05 | 2s, 8s. Seems not much difference for a hw problem | 16:25 |
| thedead1440 | yup but it now needs to be pressed in for 8s. its not pressed in that bad. anyway i'll see if someone is charging a reasonable amount to open and clean it otherwise i'll give it to nokia care who'll most probably take 2-3weeks | 16:27 |
| Hurrian | thedead1440: don't shut it down by pressing for 8s, that's a forced shutdown, and may corrupt your FSes. | 16:28 |
| Hurrian | If you've got unrestricted systemui, just install the power button applet. | 16:28 |
| thedead1440 | Hurrian: yeah i don't require shutdown anyway. I did the test just to be sure if it does shut down that way. I've the power applet and of course shutdown -n is good enough | 16:29 |
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| thedead1440 | hmm i wonder what is /usr/sbin/qmkeyd2 | 16:34 |
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| thedead1440 | its been taking 85-90% CPU | 16:35 |
| phako | https://www.meego.gitorious.org/meego-middleware/qmsystem/blobs/5edeec3815de0a2cb81e305e504f072460efe30d/keyd/qmkeyd.cpp | 16:38 |
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| thedead1440 | thanks phako! so its due to modprobe -r of twl4030_pwrbutton | 16:39 |
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| jabis | cool - my N9 declines importing contacts & starting the camera... *sigh* end of an era ;< | 17:11 |
| jabis | what shuld I get next | 17:11 |
| dm8tbr | a full reflash? | 17:11 |
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| thedead1440 | i've seen a few people with camera unable to start; i wonder why this issue is suddenly plaguing people. Might be some app/tweak causing it... | 17:19 |
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| valdur55 | Maybe it is related to GPRS settings. | 17:30 |
| thedead1440 | How so? | 17:31 |
| ladoga | probably some zombie app already using camera module | 17:42 |
| ladoga | that needs killing | 17:42 |
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| ladoga | how to restart bme server | 17:43 |
| ladoga | seems like i managed to kill it :) | 17:43 |
| thedead1440 | /sbin/start bme? | 17:43 |
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| ladoga | thanks | 17:45 |
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| thedead1440 | the camera thing is a bit weird; people get it to open and then a not responding message appears that doesn't disappear for them | 17:47 |
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| ladoga | do they have anything in common? | 17:48 |
| thedead1440 | not investigated further as most of them seem unwilling to respond in a timely manner | 17:48 |
| ladoga | fe. has it happened to anyone that is not using n9qtweak | 17:48 |
| thedead1440 | i asked one to post output of camera-ui he refused to post | 17:49 |
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| thedead1440 | another i asked to re-install the lib and app but no reply from him | 17:49 |
| ladoga | i have only had camera-ui not responding when i used camera somewhere else | 17:49 |
| thedead1440 | not sure about n9qt but i use n9qt and no issues | 17:49 |
| ladoga | playing with gstreamer or iirc once zombie cutetube (tho i don't understand the connection) | 17:50 |
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| ladoga | or maybe it was camera pro that had gone zombie | 17:52 |
| ladoga | that would make more sense | 17:52 |
| thedead1440 | yup | 17:52 |
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| ladoga | anyway nothing that killing the process wouldn't remedy | 17:53 |
| thedead1440 | true | 17:55 |
| ladoga | we'll see if/when someone who can troubleshoot bit more (or report well enough) stumbles into it | 17:55 |
| thedead1440 | those 2 i remember them saying a reboot too wasn't helping | 17:55 |
| thedead1440 | ah this guy has posted the ouput of camera-ui which is the usual output: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1326541&postcount=30 | 17:56 |
| thedead1440 | I'll ask him to do a re-install and post back | 17:57 |
| thedead1440 | also your cutetube thing may be valid as another poster too has complained of the same thing working for him | 17:57 |
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| jabis | meh - camera-ui 3.120216.2+0m8 from downloads.maemo.nokia.com got aegis rejected | 18:00 |
| thedead1440 | jabis: could be a failed/corrupted download; try it again | 18:00 |
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| jabis | nah - camera still not working - 1 pid using the camera (the camera app itself) no 3rd party camera shim installed, maybe I'll go with yet another full reflash - or straight with an open kernel and buy another phone that won't lose my contacts -.- | 18:06 |
| thedead1440 | killall camera-ui and if you have used cutetube kill it too | 18:09 |
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| jabis | nope - nada doesn't work | 18:15 |
| thedead1440 | what does typing camera-ui in terminal output? | 18:16 |
| thedead1440 | also could you post the logs of your re-installation? maybe pastebinit | 18:16 |
| jabis | MApplicationService: registerService() registering failed | 18:17 |
| thedead1440 | its a two-liner output right? | 18:17 |
| jabis | yep other is calling launch | 18:18 |
| thedead1440 | yeah that's normal | 18:18 |
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| thedead1440 | if you could post your reinstallation logs it might help to find out why aegis is rejecting it | 18:18 |
| jabis | I did it with terminal - simple apt-get --reinstall install - and I got it to update and install, but the ui is still dead | 18:19 |
| jabis | just cleared apt-cache | 18:19 |
| thedead1440 | ok can you reinstall libqcamera1 too? | 18:19 |
| jabis | reinstalled - restarting the camera-ui | 18:22 |
| jabis | nope - nada | 18:23 |
| jabis | interesting issue this one is | 18:24 |
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| thedead1440 | :S | 18:27 |
| ladoga | would ps -A or pstree output from a working device be of any help? | 18:30 |
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| Jonni | well if you have added downloads.maemo.nokia.com repo, then there is your reason :) | 18:36 |
| Jonni | as most people dont know how to use it with aegis | 18:36 |
| Jonni | ie they dont know howto enable AEGIS_FIXED_ORIGIN to work in secure mode, or howto re-sign the packages so that the origin would be com.nokia.maemo | 18:37 |
| Jonni | blaah, I mean harmattan-dev repo | 18:38 |
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| Jonni | but those issues can be pretty easily spotted by reading refhashlist | 18:40 |
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| MBOUKSIM_ | hi every body | 18:51 |
| MBOUKSIM_ | can any one helpe me im stuck with using SQLITE on Harmattan | 18:51 |
| phako | just ask | 18:56 |
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| MBOUKSIM_ | i used to do this code in Symbian | 18:57 |
| MBOUKSIM_ | #ifdef Q_WS_SIMULATOR | 18:57 |
| MBOUKSIM_ | view.engine()->setOfflineStoragePath("qml/MyProject/sqlite"); | 18:57 |
| MBOUKSIM_ | #else | 18:57 |
| MBOUKSIM_ | QString pathOfflineStorage(QApplication::applicationDirPath()); | 18:57 |
| MBOUKSIM_ | pathOfflineStorage.append(QDir::separator()).append("qml/MyProject/sqlite"); | 18:57 |
| MBOUKSIM_ | pathOfflineStorage = QDir::toNativeSeparators(pathOfflineStorage); | 18:57 |
| MBOUKSIM_ | view.engine()->setOfflineStoragePath(pathOfflineStorage); | 18:57 |
| MBOUKSIM_ | #endif | 18:57 |
| MBOUKSIM_ | QSqlDatabase db = QSqlDatabase::addDatabase("QSQLITE"); | 18:57 |
| MBOUKSIM_ | QFileInfo i("qml/Myproject/sqlite/Databases/bd.sqlite"); | 18:57 |
| MBOUKSIM_ | db.setDatabaseName(QDir::toNativeSeparators(i.absoluteFilePath())); | 18:57 |
| MBOUKSIM_ | db.open(); | 18:57 |
| MBOUKSIM_ | but it dosn't work in Harmmatan | 18:57 |
| MBOUKSIM_ | he don't find the bd.sqlite | 18:57 |
| jabis | Jonni: it was just a broken apt cache entry :) re-downloaded and everything went okies, but nonetheless the sudden borkage of camera and other native apps (twitter/facebook contacts) etc could be related | 18:59 |
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| jean_brat | hi guys.. i am planning to get an N9, if i buy a 16 gb device will it limit me from installing or updating the firmware ? | 19:30 |
| thedead1440 | jean_brat: nope 16GB doesn't limit your freedom from installing/updating firmware | 19:30 |
| thedead1440 | basically Harmattan's file system is 4GB for rootfs (/), 2GB for userfs (/home) and remaining for emmc (/home/user/MyDocs/). If you have a 16GB variant you are effectively left with ~9GB for emmc while the 64GB variant gives you ~58GB for emmc | 19:32 |
| jean_brat | basically for user memory , like images , Songs etc thats all ? | 19:32 |
| thedead1440 | yup | 19:33 |
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| valdur55 | lol... I am playing with fire... Touching aegis stuff | 20:15 |
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| valdur55 | Funny: root is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. | 20:48 |
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| valdur55 | RzR: hey. I flashed to openmode and went to ubuntufs. Runned bash and got one error: groups: cannot find name for group ID 670 | 21:04 |
| valdur55 | Oh. it is pulse-access | 21:06 |
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| liar | hi, i do have an application on my n9 which renders into a SDL window, i want that the volume + and - buttons can be used to actually change the volume and not the phones profile, how can i do that? | 21:07 |
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| valdur55 | RzR: simple fix for group issues: cat /etc/group > /home/rzr-rootfs/etc/group | 21:33 |
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| RzR | hi valdur55 | 21:38 |
| RzR | thx let me add this | 21:38 |
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| valdur55 | RzR: lol. test it! It is start of the idea... | 21:48 |
| valdur55 | it causes some problems like: syntax error: unknown group 'crontab' in statoverride file | 21:48 |
| valdur55 | Oh... and add: groupadd crontab . Then dpkg is working nicely again | 21:52 |
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| valdur55 | yep. it is working. | 22:16 |
| juiceme | evening, people | 22:16 |
| valdur55 | juiceme: evening | 22:18 |
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