IRC log of #harmattan for Tuesday, 2013-01-15

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Hurriannow that a community member has a "Dali" N9, I wonder when a Columbus and Lauta will pop up.10:48
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fralslink?10:56
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JonniHurrian: you are just refering to silver proto 'dali' N950 (N9-00 forum thread), as there is no such thing as dali N9.11:22
HurrianJonni, yeah, I was referring to that. Although, in the images, it does have the marking "N9"11:22
Jonniwell yes protoes had different kind of markings, depending how much space there was in design11:23
juiceme:)11:24
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Hurrianjuiceme: got the kexec-boot working with forking a script?11:32
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juicemeHi Hurrian11:46
juicemenot yet, there's been so much to do haven't yet done it11:47
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juicemeBeen playing with Nemo, updating just now...11:47
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juicemeDid get some nice info from Jonni, though. I did not know before that kernel writes crash logs do mtd3 :)11:49
juicemeStill it would be nicer to get another device that I could gut to get serial console on...11:49
juicemeam looking currently for one on an auction, hoping that the price does not get too high11:50
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juicemehi thedead144011:52
thedead1440hi juiceme11:53
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juicemeSaw you pinged me the other day.. I was away for few days11:53
juicemeHi Hurrian...11:54
thedead1440ah it was about your telnet issue someone was having11:54
Hurrianohai juiceme11:54
HurrianJust rebooted for a bit, OS X doesn't like AHCI on this hardware11:54
juicemeyes I read it through.. also wrote quite a lot of it on IRC but only noticed later I was on #n9 and not on #harmattan then :)11:55
juicemeyes, Hurrian, saw you went down on all channels :)11:55
juicemedid you by chance saw what I wrote to ya 2 minutes ago?11:56
Hurrianyeah, reading the logs.11:56
juiceme... OK, Nemo update finished... lets boot it and see how it goes :)11:56
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Hurrianjuiceme: IIRC it's the crash logs that get written11:57
Hurrianwhich works for kernel panics and spontaneous reboots, not so much for kernel decompression stage11:58
juicemeYes, that's the reason I would like to have rx/tx11:59
juicemelooked up the pins from schemas, but I would not like to risk my main device for debugging :)11:59
Hurrianjuiceme, check this: http://kexecboot.org/screenshots11:59
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Hurriansince the bug in starting Harmattan is /somewhere/ in running kexec (and not kexec itself), this may help12:00
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juicemethanks12:01
Hurrianyou may want to look into how exactly it starts kexec()12:01
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juicemeWell I am quite sure it is Harmattan-specific thingy. Jonni hinted that they tried to make it non-kexecable as a security measure :(12:02
juicemeThat I can confirm, for ex. it's easy to start both Nemo and Nitdroid via kexec() ...12:03
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Hurrianhmm, maybe it could be a quirk in preinit?12:07
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Hurriankexec should be transparent to the succeeding OS, ideally12:08
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gabriel9http://thenextweb.com/shareables/2013/01/12/this-is-the-funniest-windows-error-message-youve-ever-seen/12:48
gabriel9:)12:48
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juicemeHurrian: well, I am fairly sure that whatever it is it happens either before kernel calls /sbin/preinit or somewhere in the start of it.12:50
juicemeI adder tex2screen printouts to preinit, and none are seen when it hangs12:51
juicemes/adder/added/12:51
infobotjuiceme meant: I added tex2screen printouts to preinit, and none are seen when it hangs12:51
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Hurrianjuiceme: hmm, /sbin/preinit should be fairly… unintegrated with the kernel security systems12:54
Hurrianit's really weird that it's refusing to run stuff under preinit when kexec is run by a script12:54
HurrianI suggest you try out kexecboot, see if that changes anything12:55
juicemeyes.12:55
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lpappJonni: do you know how to share the internet from my laptop over infrastructure so that I can connect to that from my BB10?15:29
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Jonnilpapp: windows, mac or linux laptop?15:33
lpappJonni: qnx :D15:34
lpappJonni: Archlinux.15:34
Jonnilpapp: then this package should do the trick http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/hostapd15:36
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lpappJonni: thanks.15:38
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thedead1440http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1315143&postcount=96  <--- temp mirror with all repos till normal service is resumed17:28
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sledgeshello19:18
sledgesAndroid's bad that it runs even a simple C app in a sandboxed Dalvik VM, performance-wise; but this is good when you think about app-permissions - what they can access, give out to public (your location, PIM, etc..) How is aegis addressing that? (Im a total aegis noob, barely know a thing except that it mounts hells of partitions :))19:18
Jonnisledges: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Developing_for_Harmattan_Harmattan_security.html19:30
sledgesthanks Jonni19:31
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SpeedEvilaegis ...19:44
SpeedEvilthat19:44
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