IRC log of #harmattan for Monday, 2012-12-17

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evil_coreHi all02:21
evil_coreHow can I resend sent e-mail as sms, or copy text from it?02:22
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evil_coreyay, its impossible to copy text fromn mails and www pages, harmattan sucks02:58
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pai concluded that for my dad the best is a used N8 :)11:38
ladogawhy n8?11:39
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pacoz its cheap, and for the camera12:04
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paand its unfair N8 has shazam and N9 doesnt. :(12:15
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vcamelblueno13:51
vcamelblueno luck today...i still can't install the developer mode package...13:52
vcamelbluecan someone try (after flash) to enable developer mode?13:53
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rigovcamelblue, keep on trying. Sometimes the only reason is that nokia servers are down13:57
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vcamelbluemmm...i can't install also firefox...14:05
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rigovcamelblue: look if your network is working. Sometimes the DNS is having fun.14:17
rigomy phone would only install dev mode over a 3G connection. Once done, everything else installed fine with wifi14:18
rigono clue whether this is due to phone or carrier or other things14:19
rigos/is/was/14:19
infobotrigo meant: no clue whether thwas is due to phone or carrier or other things14:19
vcamelblueok...i'm not have tryed in 3g...14:19
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vcamelblue__ooooo yeah! work with 3g...so i think was my wifi :/ thanks bro!14:24
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dekatchhi, guess isnt the right place to ask . but probably someone can give me a tipp. i want to know what RM version my lumia 800 device has!. there is a RM-801, RM-819 and a lumia800C RM-802 . how to check what my lumia has?16:31
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MohammadAGso if something is on the refhashlist, does editing it = malf?16:49
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M4rtinKis it possible the list the current namespace for a QML file ?17:13
M4rtinKI'm testing a bit complicated import scheme and this would be quite handy for debugging17:14
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merlin1991MohammadAG: yes but you can rehash it17:59
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njsfAnybody know how to restart the calendar service ?18:19
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njsfOr how to rebuild the birthday calendar ?18:32
njsfOr how to fix the "Can't import contacts" ?18:35
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ZogG_laptopMohammadAG: sup20:04
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suosaaskiSo... is there a way to sync carddav with N9?21:26
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suosaaskiJust thinking that if my phone were to get broken etc, and I got a new N9, what options would I have for syncing contants with gmail...21:26
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ajalkaneWretched proprietary protocol MfE has been cast away from kingdom of Google. Rejoice. Now open protocols have ascended to their rightful place, just like we prayed so long ago. Who will implement CardDAV first for N9 will receive much praise and accolades from our holy communion. Go forth and make it so.21:31
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suosaaski:)21:33
suosaaskiToo bad it seems that it would be wise to either change away from google or n9. Changing from google is cheaper, of course :)21:34
suosaaskiI might start using ms account but I kinda hate the fact that I registered it a long time ago with my gmail address and I would like to change it.21:35
ajalkaneMy personall recommendation and timelines: 1) Change away from MfE NOW 2) Change away from Google eventually 3) Change away from N9 in the summer when Jolla phone are available.21:35
suosaaskiajalkane: yes, but if I were to change away from mfe, how would I sync contacts? N9 can't seem to do it, which is weird since it does support gtalk so it kinda should be able to import contacts with a gmail account, too...21:36
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suosaaskiSo I kinda need mfe.21:37
ajalkaneItem 1) requires you to code CardDAV implementation for N9 NOW. Which is why I recommended it first.21:37
suosaaskiUnless, of course, I were to switch back to using my nokia account for syncing contacts. Somehow I just have a feeling that the nokia account won't be around for a long time :)21:38
ajalkaneI also have the same weird kind of feelings!21:38
pawhy do you have to support carddav on N9?21:39
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paimport it on gmail or outlook, and sync those instead?21:39
suosaaskipa: gmail will drop support of mfe, so the only way to support syncing to gmail is to support carddav21:40
pasuosaaski, i think N9 supports google contacts via gdata api21:40
pa(account type: google)21:40
pain addition to MfE21:40
suosaaskipa: never got any contacts besides gtalk from google with a "google" account instead of mfe.21:41
pai did21:41
pabut then you can also use syncgcontacts21:41
paor syncevolution21:41
ajalkaneHmm... hm.... I do think suosaaski is correct in his, admittedly counter-intuitive, claim.21:41
paajalkane, i think long time ago i tried to sync contacts with "google" account21:42
paand it worked21:42
suosaaskiIt never worked for me, for other than the gtalk support21:42
ajalkanepa: You might be the first. Or all your contacts are in gtalk also :P21:42
pain fact it doesnt allow you to sync contacts from 2 different google accounts, which lets me think it goes in the pool of contacts21:42
pahm21:43
ajalkanepa: mayhaps you can try now again?21:43
palet see21:43
paah21:44
pathey removed it21:44
pahm21:44
paor maybe there wasnt21:44
paperhaps i remember wrong then21:44
pamust be so21:44
pawell then use syncgcontacts or syncevolution :)21:44
ajalkaneProbably... I know I had to use MfE since beta2 on N95021:44
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suosaaskiAnyway, if carddav were to be introduced, I really think it should be available in store, too... or something :)21:49
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ajalkaneOne would naively imagine having carddav plugin wouldn't be impossible. There must be open-source implementations of carddav protocol. The big black box is Harmattan's sync framework - I know nothing about it21:53
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paanyway, i dont think it's bad to go away from MfE22:05
pait sucks as protocol22:05
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suosaaskiwouldn't know about sucking, it seems to get the job done (and I have no idea how complex etc it is :))22:08
pait's slow as hell to sync22:08
paand often it fails22:08
pafrom a user perspective i mean22:08
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njsfWell the card merging from contacts also sucks like hell22:54
njsfIt looses stops syncing with sources22:54
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njsfthen you need to delete then re-add and it looses additional information you added and the merge info22:55
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njsfThe whole contact management in MeeGo is broken when stuff goes wrong22:55
njsflike if you need to reset tracker22:55
njsfit looses favorites etc22:56
njsfthe system is very brittle22:56
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