IRC log of #harmattan for Monday, 2012-11-05

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lamikrneed to go00:00
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ZogG_laptopVenemo: hey back00:03
Venemohey ZogG_laptop00:03
Venemowhat's up?00:03
ZogG_laptopVenemo: irc city on playbook can be awesome00:03
Venemowhat is irc city?00:03
ZogG_laptopVenemo: if you have time at weekend ping me, we'll upload ircchatter to apps4meego :P00:04
ZogG_laptopVenemo: i mean irc chatter00:04
Venemoall right00:04
Venemo:)00:04
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paitsnotabigtruck, hello! long time no see01:09
itsnotabigtruckoh hey pa01:09
pawe missed you!01:09
itsnotabigtrucki've been on, i think01:09
itsnotabigtrucki just hadn't been monitoring this channel01:10
pa:)01:10
itsnotabigtruckbecame a bit bored with harmattan matters and things had slowed down01:10
rZrbut we'er still here01:10
M4rtinKZogG_laptop: hi :)01:10
rZrwelcome back itsnotabigtruck01:10
payes and things seem not to be dead :)01:10
rZrhey M4rtinK , can we plan some time to finish that gtk packaging ?01:11
M4rtinKrZr: yeah, why not :)01:11
rZrjust tell me when ? I an about to be zuperbuzy soon01:12
M4rtinKrZr: what about some time tomorrow ?01:12
rZrbut i hope i have some gtk time :)01:12
rZrM4rtinK, on evening then ?01:12
M4rtinKrZr: btw, what all needs to be done ?01:12
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M4rtinKrZr: ok01:12
M4rtinKrZr: European evening ? :)01:13
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rZrM4rtinK, just this minor thing http://www.who.is.free.fr/wiki/doku.php?id=gtk#wip01:13
rZrM4rtinK, gmt evening :)01:13
M4rtinKrZr: ok01:13
M4rtinKBTW, got modRana running on ExoPC running Fedora: http://i.imgur.com/NBvIZ.jpg01:13
rZrM4rtinK, maybe your package could build in shared repo too01:13
rZrM4rtinK, you can try to push it01:13
M4rtinKin like 5 minutes, just downloaded tarball from github and run it :)01:14
M4rtinKrZr: the modRana one ?01:14
rZrgtk01:14
rZrlooks good01:14
rZrthen modrana01:15
M4rtinKrZr:  I thought you used my package as a base ?01:15
rZrdont remember now01:15
rZri think i screwed it from debian freemantle etc01:15
M4rtinKwell, the current package seems to build fine in home:rzr:harmattan (https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=gtk%2B2.0&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan)01:18
M4rtinKbut python-gtk seems to be missing & should be added IMO01:18
rZrM4rtinK, https://build.pub.meego.com/request/show/729001:18
rZrM4rtinK, I'd like to import yours if it works on that one ^01:20
rZrwell i am about go now01:20
rZrlater01:20
M4rtinKok01:20
rZrthx again01:20
M4rtinKbtw, accepted your request01:20
rZrand hi to itsnotabigtruck !!01:20
M4rtinKlets see if it builds in mine :)01:20
rZrit should but fails to isntall properly i think01:20
rZrtake your time , we re not hurry :)01:21
rZras long as we finish it soon or later :)01:21
M4rtinKBTW01:21
M4rtinKespeak would also be nice01:21
M4rtinKas I would finally like to make modRana more usable on Harmattan01:22
M4rtinKI've already tried to build it but got blocked by some weird dependencies01:22
rZrhttps://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=espeak&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan01:23
rZrjust add a repo in your home01:23
rZrit will build using my packages01:24
rZrhttps://build.pub.meego.com/project/repositories?project=home%3AMartinK%3Aharmattan01:24
rZradd repo01:24
M4rtinKnice ! & good point ! :)01:24
rZrthen add home:rzr:harmattan01:25
rZrMeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard01:25
rZrsee what i mean ?01:25
rZrif u got succcess on your packages then you can push it in shared repo01:25
M4rtinK\a01:26
M4rtinKarmv7el ?01:26
M4rtinKIIRC01:26
M4rtinKshould be same as for Harmattan01:26
M4rtinKok, added01:26
rZryes01:27
rZrcool01:27
M4rtinKshould have occurred to me sooner this is possible :)01:27
rZrno need to rebuild all01:27
M4rtinKnow when I think about it Nemo uses the same setup01:27
rZrlet me suggest to rebuild them one per one01:28
rZrand avoid to reuse those you rebuilt if i got some allready01:28
rZrwell you will figure out01:28
rZrask me if needed01:28
rZrthx agaon01:29
rZrthx again01:29
M4rtinKok :)01:30
M4rtinKI think i should dome some "autumn cleaning" in my repo01:31
M4rtinKquite a lot is probably either available in your repo or outdated01:32
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Venemogood evening, fellow harmattanites01:54
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ZogG_laptopmorning07:14
* bluefox waves07:16
ZogG_laptop:)07:16
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M4rtinKworking eSpeak packages for Harmattan: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1290282&postcount=1914:29
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painstalled that a couple of days ago :)15:09
pais espeak updated now?15:09
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paM4rtinK, espeak was available already through meeCatalog15:10
M4rtinKpa:  does meeCatalog list rzr's repo ?15:15
M4rtinKor was it from somewhere else ?15:16
M4rtinKanyway, I haven't seen anyone announcing eSpeak availability & no applications using it (on Harmattan) so that's why I'm writing about it :)15:17
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paM4rtinK, im not sure exactly what repos it adss15:30
paadds15:30
paBut it's there and it works :)15:30
pa(it speaks kind of funny, tho)15:30
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M4rtinKpa: your very own Stephen Hawking :)15:35
M4rtinKpa: reportedly, using the mbrola voices should help quite a bit: http://espeak.sourceforge.net/mbrola.html15:36
M4rtinKthey are unfortunately distributed under some nonfree licence, so properly packaging them & using them by default is (?) IMHO not possible15:37
pai see15:37
M4rtinKthere are some non-free Debian packages15:37
pain the packages i have i think there are some voices15:38
panot all tho15:38
M4rtinKyeah15:38
M4rtinKthere are some built in ones15:38
pabut are you planning to package mbrola voices? :)15:38
M4rtinK+ some extra packages that has russian and other experimental/big packages15:38
M4rtinKprobably yes, but won't mind if somebody else does it as I'm quite overloaded already :)15:39
M4rtinKBTW, these are the Debian packages: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=mbrola15:40
M4rtinKI've never done non-free packages before15:40
paright15:40
M4rtinKso I have no idea how they fit in15:40
M4rtinKIIRC on Fremantle you can only upload them with DPUT15:41
M4rtinKbut no idea on Harmattan15:41
M4rtinKwith OBS & co15:41
pai've never packaged anything myself (well ok besides my apps)15:41
paso im not really sure either15:41
M4rtinKwell, I can still make a script and tell my users to run it :)15:42
M4rtinKbut proper packages would be nicer :)15:42
M4rtinKthe debian packages should be also reasonably compatible - just not sure about the non-free status15:43
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M4rtinKanyone else interested in helping with this ? :)15:44
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ajalkaneThis channel's quieter than I remembered :P19:50
rZrlet see next door in #maemo19:51
ajalkaneso harmattan is now accepted as maemo without never-ending flamewars?19:51
SpeedEvilit's just quieter, I think19:53
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ajalkaneah... well, perhaps that's a good sign. Not much unsolved problems left :)19:54
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SpeedEvilalso, people hoping forhr things.19:57
SpeedEvilsee #jollamobile19:57
SpeedEvilas Nokia doing more maemo seems unlikely19:58
ajalkaneyeah well, that's good for future's sake that #mer, #nemomobile etc. are active19:58
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ZogG_laptophaha 500+mA for idle avr use :P20:52
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ZogG_laptophaha 500+mA for idle avr use :P20:52
bluefoxthat's pretty impressive20:52
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ZogG_laptopbluefox: all others were 700+20:59
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bluefoxhow are managing that? unless you're not talking about an N9/N950?21:00
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ZogG_laptopit's just got stuck21:02
ZogG_laptopreboot didnt really help21:02
ZogG_laptopi think it21:02
ZogG_laptopi think it's related to google sync21:03
ZogG_laptopand 3g was stuck21:03
ZogG_laptoplike it was active trying to do it21:03
bluefoxah, that's inconvenient to say the least then21:03
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ZogG_laptopbluefox: i had no time to debug, had enuf things to debug at work21:06
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* rZr : http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?p=41828#post41828 # Have you noticed http://wiki.meego.com offline ? Can it be rescued ? #MeeGo #TiZen21:31
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M4rtinKrZr: you there ? :)23:31
rZr<= just there23:32
rZrwhazup?23:32
M4rtinKso what about the GTK packages ?23:32
rZrwell i havent looked for long23:33
M4rtinKso the only remaining issue is that error you have on your wiki ?23:33
rZri think yes23:34
rZrshould be trivial to fix if your version is ok23:35
M4rtinKwell, which one ?23:35
M4rtinKI have like 5 :D23:35
rZrthe m5 one ?23:35
M4rtinKthis one is probably the cleanest: https://build.pub.meego.com/package/files?package=libgtk&project=home%3AMartinK%3Aharmattan23:38
M4rtinKI think it comes from Aapos repo and seems to build fine in your repo23:38
rZrcan you rename the package to gtk-2.0 ?23:39
rZrcan you rename the package to gtk+2.0 ?23:39
rZrthats the one i was based on IICR23:41
rZrlet's diff it23:41
M4rtinKok23:41
M4rtinKok23:41
M4rtinKso IIRC:23:41
M4rtinK1) delete your gtk+2.0 in my repo23:42
M4rtinK2) rename libgtk -> gtk+2.023:42
M4rtinK3) submit a request to you repo23:42
M4rtinK?23:42
rZrthat one could work yes23:42
rZri can do this also23:43
M4rtinKnp, I'll do it :)23:43
rZrok23:43
M4rtinKBTW, just got GTK running on Nemo :D23:43
rZrthen let's head to gtk3 :)23:43
M4rtinKhh23:44
M4rtinKdependency hell awaits :)23:44
M4rtinKbut yeah23:44
M4rtinKall that GI stuff could be nice23:44
M4rtinKit quite nicely sidesteps the current Qt 4/5 issue with language bindings23:45
M4rtinKeq no Python bindings for Qt 5 so far :)23:45
rZri thought i could repack that gtk from debian upstream23:50
rZrbut who cares now23:50
M4rtinKrZr: I think there are some Maemo specific patches/hacks23:51
M4rtinKbut yeah, I tried that first too23:51
M4rtinKbut then settled on GTK from Fremantle as it just worked :)23:52
M4rtinKrZr: BTW, request submitted23:52
rZrlets keep that for later ;)23:52
M4rtinKI haven't renamed the package btw, just copypaced it to gtk+2.0 after deleting the gtk+2.0 you send me23:52
rZrbuilding about23:52
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rZrwell that was easier than i thought23:53
rZrwas espeak enough too ?23:53
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M4rtinKrZr: I've tried it and it works fine :)23:54
M4rtinKalready posted about it to your repo thread on TMO23:55
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rZrhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1256338#post125633823:57
rZrtjx23:57
rZr-j+h23:57

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