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| ZogG_laptop | jesuschrist_: do you use drugs? | 00:10 |
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| ZogG_laptop | did you use those while reincarnation? | 00:11 |
| jesuschrist_ | caffeine and nicotine | 00:17 |
| jesuschrist_ | nothing special | 00:18 |
| jesuschrist_ | :\ | 00:18 |
| jesuschrist_ | btw zogg do you know any way to do a full n9 backup ? | 00:18 |
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| ZogG_laptop | jesuschrist_: i might be wrong but there was thread on tmo i think about something like that | 00:25 |
| ZogG_laptop | but what excatly you want to bckup | 00:25 |
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| ZogG_laptop | jesuschrist_: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=82471 - as i understand you can do image of system with it | 00:45 |
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| jesuschrist_ | thanks zogg! | 00:55 |
| jesuschrist_ | did you try it ? | 00:55 |
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| jesuschrist_ | i want to backup the whole phone | 00:55 |
| jesuschrist_ | WHOLE phone | 00:56 |
| jesuschrist_ | just to reflash it, no packages reinstalling and stuff like that | 00:56 |
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| louisdk | I've installed Inception on my N9. How do I get a real root shell? I can't use su. | 00:58 |
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| jonni | louisdk: well inception doesnt install you root shell, but you can get near if you install opensh. | 01:14 |
| louisdk | apt-get install opensh -> package not found | 01:17 |
| louisdk | jonni: I've installed dev mode. But I can't rename /usr/bin/smartsearch | 01:19 |
| arcean | louisdk, have you tried "ariadne" ? | 01:20 |
| louisdk | arcean: Yes. Stiil can't rename that file. | 01:24 |
| arcean | hmm, why do you want to rename the smartsearch file? | 01:25 |
| louisdk | I've heard that disabling the smartsearch feature would save some battery. | 01:27 |
| arcean | and will probably break some system functionalities :P | 01:29 |
| arcean | chmod -x /usr/bin/smartsearch is what people are using to disable smartsearch | 01:29 |
| louisdk | arcean: thx | 01:30 |
| louisdk | arcean: Would disabling dev mode improve the battery life? | 01:31 |
| arcean | no, I don't think so | 01:32 |
| arcean | but do you really want to live without terminal :D ? | 01:32 |
| jesuschrist_ | alas | 01:33 |
| jesuschrist_ | better way to improve battery is to not use connections and | 01:33 |
| jesuschrist_ | connection related functionalities | 01:33 |
| jesuschrist_ | :\ | 01:33 |
| jesuschrist_ | just with wife i got from a idle consumption of 5mA to 21mA | 01:34 |
| jesuschrist_ | s/wife/wifi | 01:34 |
| louisdk | arcean: I can still use the terminal with dev mode disabled: http://everythingn9.com/terminal-developer-mode-off/ :) | 01:35 |
| arcean | here's 6mA | 01:35 |
| arcean | with cellmo and wifi in idle :D | 01:35 |
| jesuschrist_ | meh | 01:35 |
| jesuschrist_ | maybe i have more bg daemons then | 01:36 |
| jesuschrist_ | dont know | 01:36 |
| jesuschrist_ | without wifi hows your idle consumption arcean | 01:36 |
| arcean | I have no idea, my devices are always connected to the home's wifi | 01:36 |
| louisdk | Well. I've an N950 and the battery life is very bad compired to the n9. | 01:37 |
| arcean | right now, the N950 has 9mA in idle | 01:37 |
| jesuschrist_ | arcean : just rechecked, 20mA with wifi | 01:37 |
| jesuschrist_ | :< | 01:37 |
| arcean | something eats your battery :P | 01:38 |
| jesuschrist_ | must be something that uses connection | 01:38 |
| jesuschrist_ | since when everything is off it goes to 5 | 01:38 |
| jesuschrist_ | any idea ? :p | 01:39 |
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| arcean | maybe exchange account is going nuts :P | 01:42 |
| jesuschrist_ | no sync | 01:42 |
| jesuschrist_ | :p | 01:42 |
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| jesuschrist_ | meh maybe my wifi router is dying and reception signal isnt so good | 01:44 |
| jesuschrist_ | dont know | 01:44 |
| arcean | sometimes reboot helps me when power consumption in idle rises | 01:46 |
| jesuschrist_ | nah its always like that | 01:47 |
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| DJKillcrazy | Hello, I am a wanna-be N9 enthusiast. | 07:47 |
| DJKillcrazy | Can anyone help me? | 07:47 |
| bluefox | possibly | 07:48 |
| DJKillcrazy | I have to buy you sushi first? ;p | 07:48 |
| bluefox | wouldn't turn you down, but i just don't know everything unfortunately, however i can certainly try | 07:49 |
| DJKillcrazy | I am about this close to plunking down $395 USD for a 64GB model but I have a few lingering doubts . . . | 07:50 |
| bluefox | well, what would you like to know? had an N9 for about a year now and an N950 for not nearly as long | 07:50 |
| DJKillcrazy | I see you're in the UK. Know of any US users in here? | 07:51 |
| bluefox | i'm actually in the US | 07:52 |
| DJKillcrazy | Oh. Sweet. | 07:52 |
| DJKillcrazy | How do I tell if my seller is giving me a 110 compatible charger, and what do I do if they turn out to be lying? | 07:53 |
| bluefox | pretty much every piece of electronics these days works with 100-240v | 07:54 |
| bluefox | if the seller is giving you the original charger, it won't have the correct plug of course | 07:55 |
| bluefox | you can just use an adapter or a charger of your own | 07:55 |
| bluefox | it just charges off micro usb, so pretty much anything will do (no barrel connector like older nokias) | 07:56 |
| DJKillcrazy | Was there any truth to the phonenews.com rumor Nokia was selling directly in the US, hence the seller has a unit with an OEM US plug? | 07:56 |
| bluefox | i've seen a few US stores carry it (even newegg for example), but it was always an import model | 07:56 |
| DJKillcrazy | What about full size USB? I currently run an iPhone 3GS | 07:57 |
| DJKillcrazy | Or could I go the Euro to US power adaptor route? | 07:57 |
| bluefox | does your charger have a usb port and then you just use one of the apple specific usb cables? | 07:57 |
| DJKillcrazy | Yep. | 07:58 |
| bluefox | can go either way then | 07:58 |
| bluefox | just use the included usb cable in place of the apple one | 07:58 |
| bluefox | or an adapter | 07:58 |
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| DJKillcrazy | Hmmm, nice. | 07:59 |
| bluefox | i use an HTC charger at work and a sony ericsson one at home | 07:59 |
| bluefox | could even charge it off a computer if you were so inclined | 07:59 |
| DJKillcrazy | Funny notion to be plugging into the Apple charger. Hadn't thought of that. | 07:59 |
| bluefox | if you do go with the adapter route, you'll want to inquire as to what regional variant it is to get the correct adapter | 07:59 |
| bluefox | mine has a UK plug for example and is a bit inconvenient with an adapter due to the size of the huge grounding pin on it | 08:00 |
| DJKillcrazy | Yeah, and hope they actually know. It's a US ebay seller who apparently bought a bulk quantity. | 08:00 |
| bluefox | i'd just stick with your apple charger for ease of use personally | 08:01 |
| DJKillcrazy | Hmmm so I already asked AT&T a while ago and they said yes, but what carrier do you use? | 08:01 |
| bluefox | at&t | 08:02 |
| bluefox | since it is an unlocked and unbranded smartphone, you can actually use their dumbphone data plan with it (medianet) | 08:02 |
| DJKillcrazy | Hmmmmm how's the email app work with Gmail? | 08:02 |
| bluefox | works just fine | 08:02 |
| DJKillcrazy | O_O | 08:02 |
| DJKillcrazy | No shit!? | 08:02 |
| bluefox | yes | 08:02 |
| DJKillcrazy | sorry lol | 08:02 |
| bluefox | been doing that for years | 08:03 |
| bluefox | $10 per line if you have a family plan and it's unlimited as well | 08:03 |
| DJKillcrazy | and still get 3G data speeds? | 08:03 |
| bluefox | yes | 08:03 |
| bluefox | since you already have an iphone, you'll be on the regular $30 data plan | 08:03 |
| DJKillcrazy | er, no, don't have a family plan. And I'm none too impressed with their latest shared data plan maneouverings | 08:04 |
| bluefox | you'll need to call them up after you swap SIM cards to change it if you wish | 08:04 |
| bluefox | ah, well, i think it's $15 then | 08:04 |
| DJKillcrazy | So they'll actually let me downgrade? | 08:04 |
| bluefox | yeah | 08:04 |
| bluefox | essentially how it works | 08:04 |
| DJKillcrazy | I'm grandfathered to the $25 2GB plan now. | 08:05 |
| bluefox | is any at&t branded phone (and the iphone) gets flagged in their system because they have a database of IMEIs (essentially serial numbers for phones) | 08:05 |
| bluefox | not in their database and they haven't a clue what it is | 08:05 |
| DJKillcrazy | bahaha! | 08:05 |
| bluefox | (at which point they'll ask you and it's up to you to tell them what it is) | 08:05 |
| DJKillcrazy | "It's a tuna sandwich." | 08:06 |
| bluefox | before all the lumia devices came out, i told them i had a nokia and they automatically assumed i had a 10 year old POS :P | 08:06 |
| DJKillcrazy | HAHAHA | 08:06 |
| bluefox | do note though that if you do use the cheap data plan | 08:06 |
| bluefox | and swap SIM cards to a phone that is in their database | 08:07 |
| bluefox | they'll spam you with SMS about it and then automatically switch you over eventually i think | 08:07 |
| bluefox | don't hold me to it though | 08:07 |
| DJKillcrazy | Makes me wonder if the gig would be up if I told them it's an N9, wonder if they'd even bother to look up what it is. | 08:07 |
| bluefox | i doubt they'd have any idea what it is | 08:08 |
| bluefox | doesn't matter what you tell them though...they just need the IMEI when you call up | 08:08 |
| bluefox | don't forget to visit a store or get a SIM card cutter too | 08:09 |
| DJKillcrazy | And the IMEI doesn't identify that it's a smartphone? | 08:09 |
| DJKillcrazy | cutter? | 08:09 |
| bluefox | no, unless it's at&t branded (or the iphone), they haven't a clue what it is for the most part | 08:09 |
| bluefox | yeah, your iphone uses a regular SIM card | 08:09 |
| bluefox | N9 uses a micro SIM (like the newer iphones) | 08:09 |
| bluefox | they actually tried to charge me $30 for a micro SIM when i visited a store, but were more than willing to give me a regular one and immediately cut it for me down to micro SIM size...go figure | 08:10 |
| DJKillcrazy | I'm still finding it hard to believe they won't push back on me a little bit downgrading from a smartphone to an alleged non-smartphone but still using data. | 08:10 |
| bluefox | well | 08:10 |
| bluefox | are you still under contract? | 08:10 |
| bluefox | if so, stuck with it until that's over | 08:10 |
| bluefox | if not, you're free to change it as you please | 08:11 |
| DJKillcrazy | No I'm free and clear. | 08:11 |
| bluefox | have at it then | 08:11 |
| * DJKillcrazy 's hed spins | 08:11 | |
| bluefox | well, lets face it, at&t kinda screws you normally :P | 08:12 |
| DJKillcrazy | Now, I'm probably in the wrong place for this, but boy do I wish it had PureView phase 1 tech in it! | 08:12 |
| bluefox | yeah, the 808's camera certainly is nice | 08:13 |
| DJKillcrazy | That's why I can't imagine them screwing themselves! | 08:13 |
| DJKillcrazy | Yeah, I'm rather torn. | 08:13 |
| DJKillcrazy | Definitely leaning N9, even though what originally wetted my appetite was the 808. | 08:14 |
| bluefox | well, most of their employees couldn't care less since there isn't much they can do...you could even lower your minutes and remove SMS if you really wanted to | 08:14 |
| bluefox | joys of being contract free (not that you'd want to more than likely) | 08:14 |
| DJKillcrazy | Oh I know. I've been contract free all along (with them at least) | 08:15 |
| bluefox | as nice as the 808 is, i do really prefer my N9 | 08:15 |
| bluefox | do actually have another symbian phone in the house (E7) | 08:15 |
| bluefox | decent, but man, hard to beat it...really need to use it to understand | 08:15 |
| bluefox | and yes, bit biased :P | 08:16 |
| DJKillcrazy | I can definitely appreciate a slick interface. | 08:18 |
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| bluefox | main draw for me was that and how it handles multitasking | 08:18 |
| DJKillcrazy | I declare Nokia severe assholes for jumping in bed with MSFT at such a time. | 08:19 |
| bluefox | which symbian does do too, but not nearly as well in my opinion | 08:19 |
| bluefox | yeah, elop ruined it :( | 08:19 |
| bluefox | not that the windows based devices aren't good, but after having seen the unreleased devices that have surfaced recently, rather disappointed | 08:20 |
| DJKillcrazy | And who knows what Jolla will do, but it's extremely unlikely Nokia will license them any PureView tech. | 08:20 |
| DJKillcrazy | I'm sure they're nice hardware, but I don't do MSFT anymore, if I can help it. | 08:20 |
| DJKillcrazy | Not for 10+ years. | 08:21 |
| bluefox | i don't think you'll be seeing the pureview incarnation from the 808 in any other phones for a while | 08:21 |
| DJKillcrazy | Fortunate and unfortunate at the same time. | 08:21 |
| bluefox | doesn't really fit in for nokia to release more high end symbian devices | 08:21 |
| bluefox | nor does it really fit in with the form factor and whatnot of all the windows based ones | 08:22 |
| DJKillcrazy | No, I'm sure the 808 is the last Symbian smartphone ever. | 08:22 |
| bluefox | well, high end ones...they keep putting out other ones | 08:22 |
| bluefox | i was actually half tempted to replace my m4/3 camera with one | 08:23 |
| bluefox | but after the large pile of money i spent on acquiring an N950, don't see that happening | 08:23 |
| DJKillcrazy | Eh, to me, a smartphone needs to be high end to actually be a smartphone. All those cheap shit Criket phones running Android 1.8 don't count. | 08:25 |
| DJKillcrazy | You still have it? | 08:25 |
| bluefox | the N950? | 08:25 |
| DJKillcrazy | Yeah, I didn't think you could buy those, just demo only. | 08:26 |
| bluefox | yeah, you can't | 08:26 |
| bluefox | i got lucky | 08:26 |
| DJKillcrazy | So they demo wasn't free? | 08:26 |
| bluefox | it was...for the original owner | 08:26 |
| DJKillcrazy | And Nokia didn't butcher him/her when it wasn't returned? | 08:27 |
| bluefox | i don't they've been asking for any of them back actually | 08:27 |
| bluefox | few floating around on ebay...last one went for $1200 | 08:30 |
| DJKillcrazy | Are they actually better than N9s, hardware-wise? | 08:31 |
| bluefox | yes and no | 08:31 |
| bluefox | it has a keyboard (main draw) | 08:31 |
| DJKillcrazy | And can't you dev for Harmattan without one? | 08:31 |
| DJKillcrazy | Oh yeah. | 08:31 |
| bluefox | you can | 08:31 |
| bluefox | it does have a smaller battery, no nfc, and a different kind of screen | 08:32 |
| DJKillcrazy | Don't need a physical KB. | 08:32 |
| bluefox | guess you could swing either way...OLED pentile vs regular lcd | 08:32 |
| DJKillcrazy | Which is pentile? | 08:32 |
| bluefox | personal preference i think but most would lean towards the N9 there | 08:32 |
| DJKillcrazy | Er, has* | 08:33 |
| bluefox | instead of having full RGB subpixels for each one | 08:33 |
| bluefox | it has green for every one and alternating red and blue for each one | 08:33 |
| DJKillcrazy | No no, I know what pentile is. | 08:34 |
| bluefox | oh, right, sorry | 08:34 |
| bluefox | the N9 has that | 08:34 |
| DJKillcrazy | Which one has pentile? | 08:34 |
| DJKillcrazy | Oh. Bummer, but then so does the 808. | 08:35 |
| bluefox | yeah, but so does every high end smartphone these days | 08:35 |
| DJKillcrazy | And from what I can tell, N9 has a much better screen than 808, even being pentile. | 08:35 |
| bluefox | it isn't really bad or even noticeable | 08:35 |
| bluefox | screen looks spectacular | 08:35 |
| DJKillcrazy | Not iPhone ;0 | 08:35 |
| bluefox | well, OLED screens | 08:36 |
| DJKillcrazy | Yeah. | 08:36 |
| bluefox | nexus line, samsung galaxy, htc's current offering, etc | 08:36 |
| DJKillcrazy | Though I think there is some new megadick 'droid with a non-pentile AMOLED. | 08:36 |
| bluefox | ah well, i don't want a huge 5" phone anyway... | 08:37 |
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| bluefox | do have an android phone too for work, but it isn't top of the line | 08:37 |
| DJKillcrazy | I dunno. I'm liking the idea of more screen realestate. And I mostly wear cargo pants so it's not like I'm worried about pocket fit. | 08:38 |
| bluefox | well, personal preference there | 08:39 |
| bluefox | i quite like the 3.7/4" group though | 08:39 |
| DJKillcrazy | See, I just can't imagine having more than one active phone. For work it's understandable, but for me a non-issue and why I'm so torn: | 08:39 |
| DJKillcrazy | Kinda pointless having a real camera eliminating 808 if I have to use another smartphone anyway. | 08:40 |
| bluefox | yeah | 08:40 |
| bluefox | i was going to use SIP on my N9, but i get SMS spam from all our monitoring stuff, so can't really turn that off like i can another phone | 08:41 |
| DJKillcrazy | I've been wanting each for a while now, but also an iPhone 5 . . . until I found out they expanded the screen size vertically only | 08:42 |
| bluefox | not a big fan of the iphone personally, but in terms of looks and form factor, certainly a step up | 08:43 |
| DJKillcrazy | Only advantage is it gave it native 16:9 video capability | 08:45 |
| bluefox | so, same as the N9 now :P | 08:46 |
| DJKillcrazy | But I would rather they'd made it a little wider too AND 16:9, even if that meant making it 4.2-4.3 inch | 08:46 |
| bluefox | though i don't think i've ever watched any video on it | 08:46 |
| DJKillcrazy | I watch a fair amount of youtube and other streamed video. | 08:47 |
| bluefox | ah, certainly important then | 08:48 |
| bluefox | i guess i could do it when i take the train to work, but i tend to just stick to spotify then | 08:48 |
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| DJKillcrazy | I just come across lots of stuff in my mobile browsing, plus social situations. | 08:50 |
| bluefox | ah | 08:50 |
| bluefox | the N9 does have flash! :D | 08:50 |
| bluefox | (you have to install firefox for it) | 08:50 |
| DJKillcrazy | Flash is a dying beast. | 08:51 |
| DJKillcrazy | Good riddance. | 08:51 |
| tehdely | every now and then, it comes in real, real handy | 08:51 |
| tehdely | one of the reasons i don't want to give up my N9 for a good long while | 08:51 |
| bluefox | i like terminal better :P | 08:53 |
| DJKillcrazy | Yes, every now and then I come across a website thoroughly stuck in a 10 years ago design mentality, and have some problems. | 08:55 |
| bluefox | tables and frames! | 08:55 |
| DJKillcrazy | That'd be 15 ;) | 08:56 |
| tehdely | i had one such website just today | 08:56 |
| tehdely | thanks to my N9 + fennec + flash i was able to watch a livestream... | 08:56 |
| tehdely | of a gas station in brooklyn | 08:56 |
| tehdely | talk about lines | 08:56 |
| tehdely | o: | 08:56 |
| bluefox | you'd be surprised at how much old stuff there's still floating around | 08:56 |
| bluefox | i saw a production pentium 2 box at one of the datacenters i work in today :( | 08:57 |
| tehdely | yeesh | 08:57 |
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| tehdely | i feel bile rising just seeing something running rhel4 | 08:57 |
| bluefox | you'd be surprised what people pay to colocate | 08:57 |
| bluefox | at least it was running windows 2000 instead of NT...i dare not touch it however | 08:57 |
| bluefox | i can imagine how crazy the situation in NYC still is though | 08:58 |
| DJKillcrazy | It's cause a lot of the regional gas distribution centers are still closed | 08:59 |
| bluefox | ah, that would do it | 09:01 |
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| DJKillcrazy | Particularly for Brooklyn and Newark. | 09:04 |
| DJKillcrazy | Was a segment about it on NPR on my ride home today. | 09:04 |
| bluefox | well, hopefully won't be too long before everything gets back to normal there | 09:07 |
| DJKillcrazy | Okay, need rest. I will likely grill you about apps tomorrow ;) | 09:09 |
| DJKillcrazy | Thanks | 09:09 |
| bluefox | sure thing | 09:09 |
| bluefox | no problem | 09:09 |
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| ZogG_laptop | beford: :P | 16:48 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Venemo: sup my old friend :) | 16:58 |
| Venemo | hey ZogG_laptop, I'm fine :) | 16:59 |
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| Venemo | ZogG_laptop, how are you? | 17:00 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Venemo: not bad | 17:04 |
| ZogG_laptop | trying to start developing for bb10 :P | 17:04 |
| Venemo | me too | 17:04 |
| Venemo | but no bb10 device yet | 17:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | i got playbook as well | 17:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's funny how playbook design reminds first version of linux DE's and that it's putted on tablet | 17:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | hope they update it to bb10 soon | 17:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | as browser, keyboard and UI elements are much better on bb10 :P | 17:07 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Venemo, when's IRC Chatter development resuming? :P | 17:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | GeneralAntilles: evening | 17:32 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Venemo: btw it would be nice to see it on bb10 as well | 17:32 |
| GeneralAntilles | Hey-oh | 17:32 |
| GeneralAntilles | I keep getting disconnected without it noticing | 17:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | ok i asked venemo in private some noob programming related question and i'm gonna repeat it here | 17:32 |
| GeneralAntilles | and there's some weird case sensitivity issue with some channels. | 17:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | GeneralAntilles: on n9 btw? | 17:33 |
| GeneralAntilles | N950 | 17:33 |
| Venemo | GeneralAntilles, hey | 17:33 |
| Venemo | yep, its current state is quite embarassing | 17:33 |
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| GeneralAntilles | It's quite a slick client | 17:34 |
| GeneralAntilles | Just got a few bugs that need ironing. | 17:34 |
| Venemo | well, it has a bunch of annoying bugs | 17:34 |
| Venemo | I'll look into it when I can, but don't have too much free time nowadays | 17:34 |
| GeneralAntilles | Seems to be the story of everybody's lives these days. :( | 17:35 |
| Venemo | unfortunately, yes | 17:35 |
| Venemo | in the meantime, you can file bug reports about the stuff in the Nemo bugzilla | 17:35 |
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| ZogG_laptop | 7:29 ZogG_laptop: btw about programming | 17:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | 17:29 ZogG_laptop: i need small advice | 17:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | 17:29 17:29 ZogG_laptop: if i have list of items | 17:39 |
| ZogG_laptop | 17:29 ZogG_laptop: and each item have presonal data | 17:39 |
| ZogG_laptop | 17:30 ZogG_laptop: should i declare list of data as item or use item with parameters i need ? | 17:39 |
| ZogG_laptop | 17:31 ZogG_laptop: including that i would need to use it twice as i would display item with all data on single page and in list as one of items of list with only few values | 17:39 |
| Venemo | GeneralAntilles, you were saying, case sensitivity issues with channel names? | 17:39 |
| Venemo | GeneralAntilles, and disconnecting, yeah, that's an annoying topic. | 17:39 |
| Venemo | I implemented a way of detecting disconnections and automatically reconnecting | 17:39 |
| Venemo | which always worked when I tested it, but never worked when I actually were using the app | 17:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | Haha | 17:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | Connection migrations usually require restarting the application | 17:40 |
| Venemo | I know | 17:41 |
| GeneralAntilles | I can /msg nickserv info and it'll respond in a second NickServ tab. | 17:41 |
| Venemo | the annoying thing is that it detects disconnections (displays a dialog saying that it's disconnected) but then fails to reconnect... | 17:41 |
| GeneralAntilles | There's a channel on another network where half the room is in #foo and the other half is in #FOO | 17:41 |
| Venemo | yeah | 17:41 |
| Venemo | that's very annoying too | 17:42 |
| GeneralAntilles | Stripping HTML from highlights so I don't get <span... etc on my MetaWatch | 17:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | and private message notifications should include the sender nick | 17:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | blah blah blah | 17:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | I keep gearing myself to dive in and look at the source but run out of energy. | 17:45 |
| Venemo | no problem | 17:45 |
| Venemo | nah, let me look at this | 17:45 |
| GeneralAntilles | Only actual feature request would be tab changing with volume buttons. | 17:45 |
| GeneralAntilles | Otherwise I really like it. | 17:45 |
| javispedro | oh, HTML in notifications? | 17:45 |
| javispedro | does it work? | 17:45 |
| Venemo | no, it does not. | 17:45 |
| javispedro | ah | 17:46 |
| Venemo | that's exactly the issue: the HTML annoyingly appears in the notification texts | 17:46 |
| javispedro | I remember I tried to figure the logic behind the "2 new emailsGARBAGE_UNICODE2 new emails" notifications that I get sometimes | 17:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | The case sensitivity issue is really the only major irritant | 17:46 |
| GeneralAntilles | The connectivity issues are easily worked around with ZNC | 17:46 |
| Venemo | ZNC? | 17:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | i think it's like irssi proxy | 17:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | irc* | 17:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | as i started to use irssi for a while now i call irc as irssi some times lately :P | 17:48 |
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| Venemo | lol at me | 17:51 |
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| Venemo | I don't even remember when I made the last release ans what I did since then | 17:51 |
| ZogG_laptop | and probably u was drunk :) | 17:52 |
| ZogG_laptop | jocking | 17:52 |
| Venemo | hehe | 17:53 |
| Venemo | sometimes I feel like I was lol | 17:53 |
| Venemo | hm | 17:53 |
| Venemo | and I just reproduced the most annoying bug ever | 17:53 |
| Venemo | I think arie reported it on Twitter | 17:53 |
| Venemo | app fails to connect | 17:54 |
| ZogG_laptop | i hate when to work with api you need key and there is no response samples or demo key | 17:54 |
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| ZogG_laptop | Venemo: release it liek that and giv a come name "airplane mode: | 17:54 |
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| ZogG_laptop | s/:/"/ | 17:55 |
| infobot | ZogG_laptop meant: Venemo" release it liek that and giv a come name "airplane mode: | 17:55 |
| ZogG_laptop | lol | 17:55 |
| Venemo | lol | 17:55 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Clearly this calls for a Kickstarter campaign. | 17:55 |
| Venemo | mhm | 17:56 |
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| Venemo | ok GeneralAntilles, connection bug now reproduced too | 17:57 |
| Venemo | what a lucky day this i | 17:57 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Hooray | 17:58 |
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| Venemo | dafuq, the error lies in the underlying library and appears to be a regression | 18:03 |
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| Venemo | nah, I need to get away for a little bit, but I'm on the right track. will do some debugging and get back to you | 18:03 |
| Venemo | GeneralAntilles, I'll ping you on twitter once the issue has been solved | 18:04 |
| ketas | i need to reflash my n9 to get sms out of it? | 18:18 |
| ketas | bleh | 18:18 |
| ZogG_laptop | wtf is slug? | 18:22 |
| virtuald | slug is akin to snail but has no house | 18:26 |
| ketas | or maybe it's type of lug | 18:27 |
| ketas | like, location of lug | 18:28 |
| GeneralAntilles | virtuald, well put. | 18:28 |
| ZogG_laptop | lol | 18:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | i checked what is slug | 18:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | i mean the slug in web technology or languages | 18:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | By now, many of you have seen where a URL contains text similar to the the page's title. For example, the URL may look like http://www.domain.com/this-is-my-best-article.aspx instead of http://www.domain.com/bestarticle.aspx. Text converted from a regular string, that can appear within a URL this way is called a "slug." | 18:37 |
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