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tanelihow do i get gps coordinates in python?10:40
grytaneli: https://github.com/jkingok/harmattan-pygeta/blob/master/qml/MainPage.qml appears to use QtMobility.location 1.210:44
tanelithat's not python ... ?10:45
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grysorry10:50
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taneliyeah, i guess it is not possible10:51
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gryI am looking at this one, it looks more like python https://qt.gitorious.org/pyside/pyside-examples/blobs/HEAD/mobility/location/showcoordinates/showcoordinates.py10:53
gryhttp://wiki.meego.com/Python/Harmattan/Getting_started mentions some sort of qtmobility bindings that can be installed10:53
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tanelithe showcoordinates.py is something i tried earlier, it just dies with a org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied even when run as root10:55
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grytaneli: what is the full error?11:04
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taneliDBus error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.AccessDenied  Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.89" (uid=0 pid=2450 comm="python ") interface="com.nokia.positioningd.client" member="registerListener" error name="(unset)" request_reply=0 destination="com.nokia.positioningd.client" (uid=29999 pid=1182 comm="/usr/bin/positioningd "))11:08
taneliif i didn't make typoes11:08
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tanelii think the message was about the same without devel-su11:12
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tanelii believe it is not possible to read gps coordinates from python, or from the command line11:15
taneliit's a pity11:15
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Sfiet_Konstantinbonjour12:12
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Sfiet_Konstantinwoops sorry, wrong chan12:12
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tanelioooh,  i installed inception and now it works12:19
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djszapiN9Sfiet_Konstantin, LOLZ12:51
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claudoes anybody know if pr1.3 fixes the wifi stability issues when connecting to certain ap's ?20:48
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jonniclau: well atleast it will work better than pr1.2, but it cant do magic if AP is just having software and&or hardware problems :). Usually it helps when you replace shitty AP with a decent one.22:00
jonni(and ofcourse you have your bluetooth disabled)22:00
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jonnias there is no software fix for the fact that bt and wifi uses the same antenna.22:02
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djszapiN9jonni, did you become the CTO already? :)22:05
SpeedEvils/antenna/frequency/22:05
bluefoxwell, wifi can run at 5ghz instead of 2.4 like bluetooth, so the frequency bit isn't necessarily true22:07
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jonnifrequency is not the probem, botleneck is the antenna22:13
SpeedEviltwo signals at a different frequency can share an antenna22:13
jonnibut they dont as the chip limits it, when bt is transmitting, wlan is blocked and vice versa.22:14
SpeedEvilindeed22:14
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bluefoxi presume there's no easy (or possibly any) way to obtain older versions of packages from the N9 repository?22:15
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jonnibluefox: apt-get supports getting different versions just fine, just like standard linux, so you can do apt-get install package=version22:17
jonnibut ofcourse if your repoes dont have the older versions then no :)22:18
bluefoxwell, these would be the official nokia ones22:18
bluefoxshame they don't have directory listing on to make browsing them easy22:18
jonnishould work just fine if you have added all pr repoes to your apt sources list22:19
jonniofcourse most packages have version number depencies, so you will not able to downgrade system packages :)22:19
bluefoxoh? i thought they just had different directories for the different regional variants22:19
bluefoxi'm actually having the opposite issue22:20
bluefoxi can't upgrade system packages and the package in question (skype) relies on having slightly newer libraries installed22:20
jonniI mean if you have added pr1.0 & pr1.1 and pr1.2 and pr1.3 repoes, then you have atleast 4 different versions of packages that you can download22:20
jonniand the question is why cant you upgrade system packages22:21
bluefoxaegis won't let me...though i guess inception would let me get around that? excuse my lack of experience with it, but i have yet to toy with it22:22
bluefoxshould also mention this is on an N950, not an N9 if that matters at all22:22
jonniso basicly you have screwed some system package with inception and you dont know how to rename package to be com.nokia.maemo owner anymore?22:22
bluefoxno, i haven't used inception at all22:23
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jonnidoesnt really matter, most people just havent installed N950 PR1.3 repo urls to sources.list, as most people still use pr1.222:23
claujonni, this is a wifi ap at work, so there's no luck replacing it.22:23
clauin fact there are several, and all exhibit same behavior22:24
bluefoxwell, the package i'm trying to install is skype, so it isn't in the N950 repos22:24
jonnibluefox: skype works just fine on pr1.3 N950.22:24
claudisabling the power saving by using n9tweak fixes it, but it also eats more battery22:24
clauand gets warm fast22:25
jonniofcourse if your trying to install it to pr1.2 n950 it will have version conflicts22:25
bluefoxyes, i'm still on pr1.222:25
bluefoxi can force it with dpkg and it works just fine22:25
bluefoxbut then that breaks apt since it complains about it every time to try to download anything through it (including the store since that uses apt, doesn't it?)22:26
claucan I somehow force the wifi to stay out of n ?22:26
claumaybe this will work :|22:26
jonnibluefox: you can ofcourse just extract/ar the skype package, edit depends file to allow pr1.2 versions, and generate deb file and use some exploit to install it as nokia signed package, problem solved :)22:27
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djszapiN9 jonni so how is stuff22:29
bluefoxalright, thanks for the help...if i fail at that i can always give pr1.3 a go22:29
jonnidjszapiN9: stuff has been busy lately, but quite fun22:31
jonniI've also resurrected my 3D CAD drawing skills, as I've started to draw my future house ;-)22:37
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djszapiN9jonni, when drunk only, right? :)22:42
jonniheh, or when my wife forces me to :)22:42
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jonni'whats that drawing there, extra room?' - 'It's called the Man Cave' :)22:44
Palijonni, do you know how phoenix SW working maemo/meego devices?22:44
Paliphoenix has some support for calibrating... it can write to CAL partition?22:45
jonniPali: well kinda yes, I've used phoenix to flash maemo/meego devices. But I'm more familiar with flasher.22:45
Palijonni, I'm asking because I rewritten 0xFFFF (open source flasher)22:46
jonniPali: well yes phoenix can write to cal partition (but it requires that your have not triggered the open mode). When you have locked the cal, even phoenix cant write there.22:46
jonniwriting to cal is much easier with flasher though, but same rule applies there, open mode must not be triggered :)22:46
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Paliflasher can write only R&D mode and hw revision22:47
djszapiN9jonni, what is your role?22:48
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Paliit is also possible to write any value to CAL by flasher?22:48
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Palijonni, do you know also how flashing on N900 working?22:50
jonniPali: yes for the public flasher, but internal flasher has write and read CAL commandline parameters ;)22:50
Paliit is implemented in NOLO? or internal flasher sending some secrect signed non public image which can CAL support?22:52
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PaliI see that for some operations flasher calling directly NOLO functions and for some it sending ape-algo image which implement other flasher operations...22:53
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djszapiN9jonni, oh design engineer22:54
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tom_I am messing with /usr/share/grob/url_history.db to remove the default nokia bookmarks.  Is it possible to change the threshold at which a site can enter the top-sites list (right now it seems to be about 6 visits). And is there a maximum limit to the number of top-sites on the list?23:16
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