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| vladest | how to make qtcreator 2.6 recognize qnx includes? | 11:11 |
| vladest | I've added includepath but it doesnt works it seems | 11:11 |
| vladest | or any includes? | 11:11 |
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| rzr | djszapi, hi saw my email in qtonpi list ? | 12:38 |
| beford | sup | 12:40 |
| djszapi | rzr: yes, but you did not send it to the list | 12:42 |
| djszapi | also, I am busy with an amazon offline coding test task :) | 12:42 |
| djszapi | laters | 12:42 |
| djszapi | rzr: I have just forwarded your email to the list. | 12:43 |
| rzr | ok mistake | 12:47 |
| rzr | today I'll try to rebuild your packages | 12:48 |
| rzr | are they stable now ? | 12:48 |
| djszapi | which packages? | 12:48 |
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| rzr | qt5 along respian ones | 12:51 |
| rzr | there is not specific harmattan stuff in it , isnt it ? | 12:51 |
| djszapi | there is of course | 12:52 |
| rzr | in your patches ? | 12:52 |
| djszapi | no | 12:52 |
| djszapi | Qt has different plugins for different platforms obviously. | 12:53 |
| rzr | yes | 12:53 |
| djszapi | so you need to build qt with different profiles. | 12:53 |
| djszapi | harmattan one is built with N9 device profile. | 12:53 |
| djszapi | one needs to add a huge switch stuff | 12:53 |
| rzr | where to tune that ? | 12:53 |
| djszapi | to branch according to the detected platform | 12:53 |
| djszapi | rzr: qt5-base/debian/rules | 12:53 |
| rzr | that was where i planned to look | 12:54 |
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| djszapi | rzr: but I am planning to update those packages tomorrow anyways | 12:56 |
| rzr | ok | 12:56 |
| djszapi | rzr: and those packages will only work with scratchbox | 12:56 |
| rzr | then tell me once it;s ok | 12:56 |
| djszapi | or native builds. | 12:56 |
| djszapi | you can already experiment today with if/elseif stuff | 12:57 |
| djszapi | but there is a bug in qmake | 12:57 |
| djszapi | or missing feature | 12:57 |
| djszapi | depends on the point of view | 12:57 |
| djszapi | which does not allow us to make cross-build packages anymore | 12:57 |
| rzr | i am testing on current sources | 12:57 |
| djszapi | it will only work with non cross-compilation, but native build or emulation. | 12:57 |
| rzr | what a regression | 12:57 |
| djszapi | not a regression | 12:57 |
| djszapi | it has never worked | 12:58 |
| rzr | anyway who is cross compiling now ? | 12:58 |
| djszapi | well all the application developers using MADDE and/or QtCreator. | 12:58 |
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| djszapi | but I have to focus on this coding test | 12:59 |
| djszapi | laters | 12:59 |
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| rzr | ok | 13:02 |
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| Hurrian | quick question, does the N9 regenerate its /etc/fstab? | 13:37 |
| Hurrian | I'd like to test performance with data=writeback enabled. | 13:37 |
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| Hurrian | anyone able to scan chipped passports with their N9s? | 16:13 |
| Tronic | I think I was able to activate levels on Angry Birds with that but NFC apps don't react in any way. | 16:18 |
| Tronic | Quite possibly this has changed with OS upgrades. | 16:19 |
| Tronic | Because I was playing with NFC only on PR1.1 or so, and noticed after a long while of not doing it that I cannot read tags with PR1.3. | 16:20 |
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| jonni | Hurrian: my N9 detects nfc on passport just fine. But passport tag is encrypted so you cannot 'read' it a such, but you can open angry birds levels with your passport. | 17:29 |
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| Hurrian | jonni, meh, my N9 doesn't even do the NFC beep. | 17:30 |
| jonni | Hurrian: have you enabled nfc from the settings? :) by default its disabled | 17:30 |
| jonni | and N9 opens my self created url tags on PR1.3 just fine :) | 17:31 |
| Hurrian | yeah, enabled it. Haven't checked with anything else, I have not found any NFC/RFID tags to tap on. | 17:32 |
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| jonni | heh, maybe you should order some empty ones from ebay, they are like 1e a piece. | 17:33 |
| jonni | ncf is quite useless anyways, after playing with url tags for few days, I didnt find any use for it, and now I have bunch of unused tags lying in my desk drawer. | 17:34 |
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| rashm2k | whats the max size of a shared libraries | 18:11 |
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| vladest | nice. harmattan the only target, doesnt rebuilds qrc in case of changing qml, stored in resorces | 19:01 |
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| merlin1991 | vladest: i noticed that while hacking on the sdk conectivity tool | 19:03 |
| merlin1991 | you need to touch at least one *code* file so that it rebuilds the qrc | 19:04 |
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| vladest | merlin1991: well, this is not very useful | 19:06 |
| merlin1991 | vladest: it's enough to simply run "touch somecodefile" for the build process to rebuild the qrc | 19:07 |
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| vladest | yes, this is w/o | 19:14 |
| vladest | any1 knows why qtcreator doesnt parses includes from INCLUDEPATH? | 19:15 |
| rashm2k | do you set INCLUDEPATH += | 19:16 |
| rashm2k | and not just = | 19:16 |
| vladest | yes, I've set + | 19:16 |
| vladest | yes, I've set += | 19:16 |
| vladest | its qtcreator 2.6 | 19:17 |
| rashm2k | it should do then - try Build -> run qmake | 19:17 |
| rashm2k | and try clean - close qt creator and then re-open | 19:17 |
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| rashm2k | lol it takes me 30mins to compile one library it's nuts | 20:06 |
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| merlin1991 | rashm2k: try compiling qt4 ;) | 20:07 |
| merlin1991 | or openssl | 20:08 |
| shanttu | damn our device. yesterday i saved a .txt file to dropbox and downloaded it to n9. had to read that on nano =) | 20:08 |
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| arcean | shanttu: you could always end up with cat file.txt :D | 20:32 |
| shanttu | arcean, yep =) | 20:37 |
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| rashm2k | there IS a txt reader | 20:52 |
| rashm2k | personally I think the N9 is a step back from my N900 - the N900 just had something that the N9 simply doesnt | 20:52 |
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| valdur55 | N9 document viewer can open with Document Viewer | 21:00 |
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| vladest | rashm2k: did not help | 21:09 |
| rashm2k | what header files are you trying to include? | 21:15 |
| rashm2k | includepath normally just works - never had any issues with it | 21:15 |
| rashm2k | you just need to make sure that the path is relative to where the .pro file is | 21:16 |
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| mschr | heya | 21:24 |
| mschr | any1 else having problems with pop mail client? | 21:24 |
| vladest_ | rashm2k: its absolute path of bb ndk | 21:27 |
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| teleshoes | hey | 21:27 |
| teleshoes | can anyone send me the md5sum of the best firmware and emmc images? | 21:27 |
| teleshoes | pr1.3, global, unbranded, wifi hotspot not crippled, no maps, etc | 21:28 |
| teleshoes | i had been using the malaysian 005 variant like a good boy {my dear departed n9 was from malaysian} | 21:30 |
| teleshoes | and now i have a new device and want to do it right | 21:30 |
| teleshoes | oh yea, 64gb | 21:31 |
| teleshoes | theres 64GB Global Black Swap | 21:31 |
| teleshoes | and 64GB Row Black | 21:32 |
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| ZogG_laptop | sup | 21:37 |
| teleshoes | hello zogg | 21:38 |
| teleshoes | do you happen to know whether 'global' or 'row' is the variant i want? | 21:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | depends | 21:39 |
| teleshoes | ok | 21:39 |
| ZogG_laptop | on what version you have | 21:39 |
| teleshoes | this is what i want: n9, 64gb, pr1.3, unbranded, 001, nomaps | 21:39 |
| ZogG_laptop | what country and what you want | 21:39 |
| ZogG_laptop | i would prefer global | 21:39 |
| teleshoes | me too | 21:39 |
| ZogG_laptop | but it depends on what FW u currently on | 21:40 |
| teleshoes | yea i know; i used to use my country code {malaysia}, and delete the maps | 21:40 |
| teleshoes | but this is a new device! | 21:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | teleshoes: what FW are you on? | 21:41 |
| teleshoes | i THINK | 21:41 |
| teleshoes | pr1.3 001 | 21:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | oh | 21:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | just check it | 21:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | not sure if it's in info | 21:41 |
| teleshoes | i dont know where it is, or how i would check i | 21:42 |
| teleshoes | flasher might tell me | 21:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | but if you have 001 it should be meta package harmattan-001 or something as well as repos | 21:42 |
| teleshoes | ah good point! | 21:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | lemme check for you in few mins | 21:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | just got home from weekend on the sea :) | 21:42 |
| teleshoes | oh nice | 21:42 |
| teleshoes | yup | 21:43 |
| teleshoes | 001 | 21:43 |
| teleshoes | but it looks like both "row" and "global" are variant code 001 | 21:44 |
| teleshoes | all the rest in navifirm are obviously crippled, branded, or country-mapped | 21:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | i'm not sure what is row | 21:44 |
| teleshoes | me either | 21:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | where did you get this labeling? | 21:44 |
| teleshoes | which is why i got deathly afraid and freaked out | 21:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | someone told you or something/ | 21:44 |
| teleshoes | navifirm! | 21:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | not usre | 21:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | global is 001 that's what you need to know | 21:45 |
| teleshoes | i dl'd both | 21:45 |
| teleshoes | both are 001 | 21:45 |
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| teleshoes | these are the ones that say "RM-696 64G GLOBAL BLACK SWAP (059K3S0)" | 21:53 |
| djszapi_ | rzr: now I am back. Coding test submitted. :) | 21:53 |
| teleshoes | 37883898bd9140fa3e909c5385d3f0ca DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.13-7.NOMAPS_EMMC_NOMAPS.bin | 21:53 |
| teleshoes | 53fcefc0033875661c19160e16999b3e DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.21-3_PR_LEGACY_001-OEM1-958_ARM.bin | 21:53 |
| djszapi_ | rzr: so if you can get a server for the ubild farm, that would be awesome. | 21:53 |
| djszapi_ | build* | 21:53 |
| teleshoes | djszapi, do you know whether 'global' or 'row' firmwares are right for n9 64gb unbranded nomaps? both are variant code 001 | 21:54 |
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| teleshoes | oh snap, theyre the same | 21:55 |
| teleshoes | i just md5sum'd them | 21:55 |
| teleshoes | ZogG_laptop, nevermind, i downloaded both, md5sum'd them, and they are the same, both emmc and firmware | 21:55 |
| djszapi_ | teleshoes: do not have time, sorry. | 21:55 |
| teleshoes | sok thx | 21:55 |
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| teleshoes | if anyone has a chance, could you verify that those md5sums are the right firmware/emmc to use for a generic flash? | 22:00 |
| teleshoes | i couldnt imagine what else would be | 22:00 |
| teleshoes | but i still fell lingering paranoia | 22:00 |
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| rashm2k | oh vladest_ | 22:18 |
| rashm2k | gonna setup the b ndk myself as well soon | 22:19 |
| rashm2k | bb10 | 22:19 |
| rashm2k | havig a few issues with new qt creator though + meego | 22:19 |
| ieatlint | the bb10 stuff looks interesting.. | 22:20 |
| ieatlint | was handed one of the dev alpha b phones wednesday.. nicer than i expected to be honest, and both cascades and regular qt were rather simple | 22:21 |
| rashm2k | yeah it looks really nice | 22:21 |
| rashm2k | which version of qt creator are you using? | 22:22 |
| ieatlint | haven't had time to try it actually, i sat through a demo where they had an unintentionally humorous slide saying qtcreator 2.6 was needed though | 22:22 |
| ieatlint | wasn't clear why though.. the remote deployment tools they showed exist on 2.5 | 22:23 |
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| SpeedEvil | interesting | 22:24 |
| rashm2k | one thing does puzzle me though | 22:24 |
| ieatlint | http://imgur.com/Ad7oE is the slide in question | 22:25 |
| ieatlint | i just liked that it said "Get this! (Not yet released)" | 22:25 |
| rashm2k | BB10 SDK and Cascades SDK is exactly the same! | 22:25 |
| rashm2k | very confusing! | 22:25 |
| ieatlint | that's unsurprising | 22:26 |
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| rashm2k | yes - but on their website they make it appear that they are somehow two different downloads/packages/setups | 22:26 |
| rashm2k | https://developer.blackberry.com/platforms/ndk/ | 22:27 |
| vladest_ | rashm2k: what? | 22:27 |
| ieatlint | the downloads page clearly just labels it "blackberry 10 sdk" | 22:27 |
| * ieatlint shrugs | 22:27 | |
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| vladest_ | rashm2k: just download ndk | 22:28 |
| rashm2k | yes - but it seems the NDK is different from Cascades | 22:28 |
| rashm2k | even though it is not | 22:28 |
| vladest_ | ndk its cascades+native | 22:28 |
| vladest_ | afaik | 22:28 |
| * ieatlint shrugs | 22:29 | |
| rashm2k | have a look at the link above | 22:29 |
| ieatlint | i'll write a simple app or two for it if it's indeed as simple as it looked | 22:29 |
| ieatlint | as much to get another notch on my belt than anything else :P | 22:29 |
| rashm2k | filename for Cascades = Native SDK | 22:29 |
| rashm2k | I'll be looking to port my app over to BB10 | 22:30 |
| ieatlint | i'll be very excited if they get the qt mobility nfc stuff working, complete with lower level access | 22:30 |
| ieatlint | which nokia was never able to get working on any device | 22:30 |
| rashm2k | I doubt it | 22:30 |
| rashm2k | they need to release the devices ASAP | 22:30 |
| rashm2k | maybe in the future | 22:31 |
| rashm2k | they seem FAR more committed to this than Nokia | 22:31 |
| ieatlint | yeah, nokia seemed much more like a "let's put 500 people on this and schedule daily meetings" | 22:31 |
| ieatlint | and rim seems to be just "ok, here's 50 people, get shit done" | 22:31 |
| ieatlint | (and tizen is "we have 5 guys working on that, i think") | 22:32 |
| rashm2k | lol | 22:32 |
| rashm2k | I don't think Samsungs Tizen is going to amount to aything | 22:33 |
| rashm2k | not sure about Jolla either | 22:33 |
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| rashm2k | For the next 6 months my bets are on RIM | 22:33 |
| ieatlint | i've been burned too many times... my collection of dead phones grows, and i stopped making bets | 22:34 |
| ieatlint | i need to get like a display case here | 22:34 |
| rashm2k | An N950 will be worth quite a bit - in a few years time | 22:35 |
| rashm2k | It oozes class | 22:35 |
| ieatlint | which is why i keep mine in a padded carrying case in a drawer | 22:35 |
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