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DEAD_BEEFany chance of ever getting meego to run on the lumia 920?03:10
DEAD_BEEFor would it even be worth it?03:11
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DEAD_BEEFit's so big!03:16
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djszapi_interesting that you need to pay for everything in case ryanair, even a check-in is up to 20-120 EUR.06:34
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djszapi_jonni: ping11:10
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lucidohow can I install packages from rzr's repo12:09
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e-yesis u-boot available for n9?14:02
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MFaro-Tusinoe-yes: no14:05
MFaro-Tusinobut there is a similar gui14:05
MFaro-Tusinobooting tool14:05
e-yescan it boot different kernel?14:06
MFaro-Tusinoi think so14:08
MFaro-Tusinohe used it to multiboot nemp14:08
MFaro-Tusino*nemo14:09
MFaro-Tusinoharmattan14:09
MFaro-Tusinoand sshd14:09
MFaro-Tusinowait, not nemo, nitdroid14:09
MFaro-Tusinowhich will help you14:09
MFaro-Tusinoi will get link14:09
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MFaro-Tusinoe-yes: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=8677514:11
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e-yesMFaro-Tusino, it can't change kernel, but thanks anyway14:16
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MFaro-Tusinodamn :( port u-boot then ;)14:18
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saidinesh5hey fellas17:19
saidinesh5just a quick question, how would i get more priviliges to my app, which wants to try to modify /etc/hosts ?17:20
saidinesh5i cant seem to find the right term to google for this17:20
djszapiN9saidinesh5, fellas cannot be found in this channel. :)17:20
saidinesh5hehehe17:20
saidinesh5so djszapiN9 any idea? :P17:21
djszapiN9tried as root?17:21
djszapiN9checked if it is refhashed?17:21
saidinesh5djszapiN9: the thing is i want to make an app which does that17:21
saidinesh5i mean which keeps updating the hosts file17:21
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djszapiN9that is not what I asked. ;)17:22
saidinesh5Ah lol17:22
* saidinesh5 googles what refhashed is17:22
djszapiN9well just try as root first17:22
saidinesh5but how do i launch the app as root?17:23
Khertan_workosc commit : Looks as if you need to update it first.17:23
Khertan_workosc pull : Please commit your local changes first!17:23
Khertan_workHaha ... osc resolve recursion  ... maybe ?17:23
djszapiN9and if it works, check whether it is in the refhashlist.17:23
Khertan_work:)17:23
saidinesh5oh17:23
djszapiN9you request root uid for your executable in the manifest file.17:23
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djszapiN9hmm, that may be unallowed actually.17:24
saidinesh5oh?17:24
djszapiN9but I think it can work.17:24
djszapiN9well try :-)17:25
saidinesh5hehe okay17:25
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saidinesh5thanks :)17:26
djszapiN9develsh can get root17:27
djszapiN9so ovi apps should also be able yo do so.17:27
djszapiN9to*17:27
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djszapi_jpnurmi: please wait the harmattan patch17:36
djszapi_I think it is wrong, but I do not currently have time to explain.17:36
djszapi_I can do that tonight.17:36
djszapi_with*17:36
jpnurmidjszapi_: sure, that's why i added you as a reviewer :)17:38
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jonnidjszapi_: pong18:06
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djszapi_jpnurmi: the problem is with usb hostmode.18:22
djszapi_jpnurmi: you can have cursor18:22
djszapi_so it is not like the window alternative that you brought up18:23
djszapi_windows*18:23
djszapi_unless you have inception there.18:23
djszapi_but not open mode for sure.18:23
djszapi_so I consider them different cases.18:23
jpnurmidjszapi_: ok18:23
jpnurmigotta re-think it then18:23
djszapi_jpnurmi: usb hostmode had limitations on Harmattan18:24
djszapi_jpnurmi: but it is actually doable.18:24
djszapi_jpnurmi: I was consider previously a patch for haveMouseCursor18:24
djszapi_to return true.18:24
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djszapi_jpnurmi: the mouse cursor will be provided by X.18:25
djszapi_not by a platform plugin like in some other cases.18:25
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djszapi_at least the symbol.18:25
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djszapi_jonni: forgot what I wanted to ask hehe.18:25
jpnurmidjszapi_: i guess that's the problem, because the tests are actually comparing cursor shapes18:25
jpnurmijust gotta use something else than QT_NO_CURSOR for skipping those18:26
djszapi_let me leave a comment18:26
djszapi_so food for thoughts18:26
jpnurmiin any case, i want to cleanup that haveMouseCursor() thingy18:26
djszapi_I need to leave now unfortunately.18:26
jpnurminp, laters18:26
djszapi_ok that sounds more reasonable to me.18:27
djszapi_unless you have a blocker issue with cursor I would not drop that feature.18:27
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djszapi_jonni: ah I recall!18:30
djszapi_jonni: do you know how I could get the maps in Italy and Switzerland now over the 3g internet on my N9?18:30
djszapi_I will be traveling tomorrow, and I think it is not the best to get those while roaming. :-)18:31
djszapi_but the maps application does not allow me to get those either over my 3g internet.18:31
djszapi_can I download those maps offline, and inject to the proper place on my phone, if it works that way at all?18:31
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jonnidjszapi_: yes you can download forexample country variant emmc file and extract the maps to emmc drive.18:33
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jonnidjszapi_: or actually pc suite should work too... havent tested though18:34
djszapi_jonni: do you have an url schema that I can download at the company?18:34
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djszapi_or perhaps I could use the usb networking on Windows for now?18:34
djszapi_from the company pc?18:34
djszapi_or is it simpler to fire up on Linux inside virtualbox?18:34
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jonnidjszapiN9: http://discussions.nokia.com/t5/Maps-Navigation-and-GPS/newest-Nokia-Ovi-Maps-0-1-25-114-manual-download/m-p/77887018:46
jonnidjszapiN9: but you have easier times if you use pc suite or find wlan somewhere :)18:47
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jonnidjszapiN9:  http://nds2.fds-fire.nokia.com/p/d/fds_fire/1207/0318/7076780164/030AF44E_DFL61_HARMATTAN_40.2012.13-7.ALPS_EMMC_ALPS.bin18:50
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rzrfire the burning platform19:04
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ZogG_laptopjonni is not nokian anymore :P19:09
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ArieVesuri: ~ping19:36
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djszapi_jonni: what was the second bin about?21:07
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jonnidjszapi_: that was just swizz N9 emmc image where you could extract the maps also.21:12
djszapi_jonni: http://static.s2g.gate5.de/map5/maploaderzip-00.01.25.114/35216.zip21:12
djszapi_so where do I need to extract this to?21:13
jonnidjszapi_: no idea, I have not downloaded from gate521:13
djszapi_well it is from your former link.21:13
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jonnistore.ovi.com seems down atleast for me...21:13
djszapi_can second that21:14
jonnidjszapi_: easiest way 1. use wlan, 2. use pc suite, 3. extract from bin. 4. from gate5 (and I have no idea about gate5 links)21:14
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djszapi_extract to where?21:15
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jonni/home/user/MyDocs/cities21:16
djszapi_jonni: the bin is 1.6 GB LOLZ21:19
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ZogG_laptopSfiet_Konstantin: you use pulse? how is it?21:41
Sfiet_Konstantinwell21:42
Sfiet_Konstantinlike whatsapp21:43
Sfiet_Konstantin(wazapp)21:43
Sfiet_Konstantinbut more privative21:43
Sfiet_KonstantinI mean, conservative on your data21:43
Sfiet_Konstantinyou don't expose it to everybody knowing your phone number21:43
Sfiet_Konstantinthe added features are "useless" (like share location)21:43
Sfiet_Konstantinbut quite a nice addition to whatsapp and co21:43
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dekayhi21:45
dekayuser questions to nokia phones here welcome?21:46
ZogG_laptopdon't ask to ask21:47
ZogG_laptopjust ask21:48
rashm2kprobably not dekay21:48
ZogG_laptopif someone can answer he would21:48
rashm2kthis is a dev channel21:48
ZogG_laptoprashm2k: who said that?21:48
ZogG_laptopA place for harmattan device and development discussions21:48
rashm2kI just thought it was21:48
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ZogG_laptopboth21:48
ZogG_laptopdekay: anyway ask21:48
dekaywell, i want to change a setting in my lumia 800! there is a tut explained how to change lumia to have it as mass storage http://lovemynokia.com/simple-trick-to-enable-usb-mass-storage-mode-in-lumia-800/21:49
dekaythis is what id like to do..21:49
rashm2klol21:49
dekayi just heard some various ways to achieve21:50
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dekaymy actually question would be: what is the safe way to make my lumia as mass storage without loosing guarantee21:52
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djszapi_like cloning that original image and then change the Y Cr Cb etc... a bit ...22:05
djszapi_sorry, wrong windows.22:05
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piggzany tips for this....its posible to pass a qml object to C++ as a QDeclarativeitem* by using its ID....but, how can i do that if the object is created dynamically?  afaict, if i assign the object to a javascript var and pass with that, i just get a null pointer at the C++ end22:41
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ZogG_laptopdekay: only haarmattan though related questions23:11
ZogG_laptopnot all okia23:11
ZogG_laptopbut n9/n950 or other obile qt interesting related things, but mostly harmattan :P23:12
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