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| njsf | Is there any N9 backup program that backs up daily the list of installed .debs, sources and files changed from stock on rootfs ? | 00:11 |
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| njsf | Is there a desire for such a program ? | 00:11 |
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| rZr | njsf, dpkg-repack does that | 00:13 |
| njsf | is it in stock, devel-mode, apps-for-meego, tmo ? | 00:14 |
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| ZogG_laptop | nope | 01:03 |
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| gabriel9 | it works | 01:08 |
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| pa | so this has been asked before, but.. any way to do ssh -X to the phone and export phone app windows on the desktop? | 11:03 |
| pa | (to avoid vnc, which is slow, and which doesnt let the screen go off) | 11:04 |
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| ZogG_laptop | what for? | 11:04 |
| pa | to export phone app windows to the desktop | 11:05 |
| ZogG_laptop | i got it, but why? | 11:06 |
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| pa | for debugging, for example | 11:08 |
| pa | or if you want to send sms and you have your phone somewhere else | 11:09 |
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| khertan | Morning | 12:27 |
| ZogG_laptop | khertan: morning \o | 12:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | khertan: gonna try to port apps to bb? | 12:33 |
| khertan | ZogG_laptop, probably | 12:33 |
| ZogG_laptop | tell me how it goes :P | 12:34 |
| khertan | first i need an emulator or a device | 12:34 |
| khertan | and for the moment ... i got none | 12:34 |
| khertan | doesn't run on linux :) | 12:34 |
| ZogG_laptop | khertan: join #qt-qnx btw | 12:34 |
| khertan | so i m creating a virtual box image | 12:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | khertan: cascad does work on linux | 12:35 |
| khertan | how ? | 12:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's not off supported yet | 12:35 |
| khertan | where to get it ? | 12:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | but it has linux version | 12:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | lemme grep the log | 12:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | khertan: https://developer.blackberry.com/cascades/downloads/fetch/installer-bbndk-BB10_0_06-linux-543-201207171612-201208070655.bin | 12:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | but u would still need emulator/simulator/agregator/whateverator | 12:37 |
| khertan | ZogG_laptop, ll be more difficult to test specially because i use python | 12:44 |
| khertan | :) | 12:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | khertan: i think if you port few apps u may get device from Ash | 12:47 |
| Kozzi | how is the compability of apps written for harmattan with bb? | 12:47 |
| Kozzi | is it straight forward to port apps from har->bb or bb->har? | 12:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | Kozzi: i don't think so as they don't share same qml components as well Qtmobility and stuff can be different | 12:48 |
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| ZogG_laptop | gonna download linux version | 12:49 |
| ZogG_laptop | after all, all i need is to re-write qml part | 12:50 |
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| khertan | ZogG_laptop, he ask me if i ll port app to bb10 so i'm looking at it :) | 13:03 |
| khertan | ZogG_laptop, should not be complicated are api of cascade look similar to qt components use for maemo | 13:03 |
| ZogG_laptop | khertan: i hope it would be easy to me to start developing for it :P | 13:04 |
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| djszapi | jonni: do you have a harmattan environment at hand? | 13:27 |
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| jonni | djszapi: yes | 13:30 |
| djszapi | jonni: mind testing fakeroot apt-get install qt5-* | 13:30 |
| djszapi | ? | 13:30 |
| djszapi | from the community repository. | 13:30 |
| djszapi | just for installation now. | 13:30 |
| jonni | sure I can test if you tell what lines to add to sources.list for community repo | 13:31 |
| djszapi | jonni: echo 'deb http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/rzr:/harmattan/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/ ./' >>/etc/apt/sources.list.d/nicks.list | 13:32 |
| djszapi | jonni: you do not seem to have been the user of our community repository ;-) | 13:33 |
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| jonni | havent needed community repo in my sb env :) | 13:33 |
| djszapi | jonni: wow | 13:34 |
| djszapi | jonni: the harmattan development repository was always enough for your purposes, like apps in ovi? | 13:34 |
| jonni | djszapi: well I cheat, and use fully signed pr1.3 repo ;) | 13:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: leak the keys :) | 13:35 |
| djszapi | jonni: but they do not contain everything either | 13:36 |
| djszapi | I mean the community repository has 650+ packages. | 13:36 |
| djszapi | I am sure most of them are unavailable under the nokia umbrella since they have not needed those mostly. | 13:36 |
| jonni | djszapi: just tested fakeroot apt-get install qt5-* and runned into million depency errors like cmake-qt-gui: Depends: cmake-data but it is not going to be installed | 13:37 |
| djszapi | yay :) | 13:37 |
| djszapi | jonni: for which package? | 13:38 |
| djszapi | qt5 should not ideally depend on cmake. | 13:38 |
| djszapi | I had the impression, that should be optional if any. | 13:39 |
| djszapi | it was not needed for the c-obs build either. | 13:39 |
| jonni | well I just did fakeroot apt-get install qt5-* and and that depency error came up, so some qt5-* package depends on it. | 13:39 |
| djszapi | how about apt-get if install | 13:40 |
| djszapi | -f | 13:40 |
| djszapi | and then apt-get install qt5-base | 13:40 |
| djszapi | see if the base at least works. | 13:40 |
| jonni | yes base installs fine. | 13:41 |
| djszapi | declarative? | 13:41 |
| jonni | and that installs fine too | 13:42 |
| djszapi | then what didn't install fine? | 13:42 |
| djszapi | qt5-multimedia? | 13:42 |
| djszapi | qt5-script? | 13:42 |
| djszapi | qt5-location? | 13:42 |
| djszapi | qt5-3d? | 13:42 |
| djszapi | qt5-sensors? | 13:42 |
| djszapi | qt5-xmlpatterns? | 13:43 |
| jonni | lets see if I install one by one.... | 13:43 |
| djszapi | k :) | 13:43 |
| djszapi | -nomake tests -nomake examples -nomake demos -nomake translations -> so you cannot run a demo off-hand. | 13:46 |
| jonni | wierd, everything went fine when installing one by one. so maybe it was just some wierd problem on 1st time | 13:46 |
| djszapi | or example, unfortunately. | 13:46 |
| djszapi | what does apt-cache search qt5- return ? | 13:46 |
| djszapi | perhaps, it tries to install other packages as well. | 13:46 |
| djszapi | which cause issues. | 13:46 |
| djszapi | perhaps we could have a qt5 metapackage for all qt5 related modules | 13:47 |
| djszapi | jonni: ^ | 13:48 |
| jonni | [sbox-HARMATTAN_ARMEL: ~] > apt-cache search qt5-| cut -f1 -d' '|xargs | 13:48 |
| jonni | qt5-3d qt5-base qt5-declarative qt5-jsbackend qt5-location qt5-multimedia qt5-script qt5-sensors qt5-xmlpatterns | 13:48 |
| djszapi | this needs some investigation then | 13:49 |
| djszapi | I wanted to update my blog post about the coming qt5 beta 1 for harmatan | 13:49 |
| djszapi | harmattan* | 13:49 |
| djszapi | and I wished to write apt-get install qt5-* | 13:49 |
| djszapi | perhaps I should just then produce a qt5 metapackage. | 13:49 |
| djszapi | for being correct and precise about this. | 13:49 |
| jonni | or get someone else to test, if my system was just having a bad hair day. | 13:50 |
| djszapi | that would mean, anybody could have that in the future :) | 13:50 |
| jonni | yeah, meta package might be better solution | 13:50 |
| djszapi | so the next task is qt-components and qtquick2 branch | 13:51 |
| djszapi | I wonder if this qt5 application development workflow would be supported by QtCreator. | 13:51 |
| djszapi | jonni: it is ok I can do my application in scratchbox without any problems, but unfortunately that would not hit many application developers here. :) | 13:52 |
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| jonni | djszapi: I remember seeing in tmo qt5 thread that someone did already integration with qtcreator... but I didnt read any further... | 14:00 |
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| jonni | might have been ajalkane or someone who did qt5 example project for qtcreator... my memory is bad with names though | 14:01 |
| djszapi | ajalkane was mentioning that previously, he has already read something like that. | 14:02 |
| djszapi | now I recall that. | 14:02 |
| djszapi | I believe, most people use QtCreator unfortunately, so without a tight integration, it may be suboptimal to just have the qt5 packages themselves. | 14:03 |
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| djszapi | jonni: do you have a link at hand by any chance? | 14:15 |
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| ZogG_laptop | djszapi: do u use qtcreator? | 14:45 |
| ZogG_laptop | what is the latest version? | 14:45 |
| djszapi | no, I do not. | 14:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | 2.5.2 | 14:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | hmm | 14:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | why the f than update manager says there is nothing to update :( | 14:49 |
| djszapi | jonni: need to leave the noise here, but feel free to send me the link in private, if you find that. | 14:51 |
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| jpnurmi | SignOn::AuthService::queryIdentities() throws an error: "Client has insuficient permissions to access the service.Method:queryIdentities" | 16:01 |
| jpnurmi | i've tried requesting "TrackerReadAccess" via aegis manifest: https://gist.github.com/3609180 | 16:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | jpnurmi: i think it's not realted | 16:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | related | 16:02 |
| jpnurmi | any tips? | 16:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | what are u trying to write? | 16:02 |
| jpnurmi | i'm trying to get some account credentials... i've been playing around with both, libaccounts-qt and libsignon-qt | 16:04 |
| jpnurmi | not much success so far :) | 16:04 |
| jpnurmi | Accounts::Manager lists all sharing services and providers fine, but no accounts at all. then i started messing with SignOn::AuthService as it also provides some identities | 16:06 |
| ZogG_laptop | jpnurmi: and u try to get credentials for what accounts? not yours? if so u can't get i think that's the whole point of it | 16:07 |
| jpnurmi | ZogG_laptop: right, makes sense... i wanted to get the evernote credentials to avoid requiring the user to register two evernote accounts on the system | 16:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | jpnurmi: i didn't succeed to use accounts at all | 16:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | with oauth2 | 16:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | it creates account | 16:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | but i have no idea how to use it to get the token | 16:10 |
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| heymaster | where to store data what after app remove data will be removed? | 16:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | i think you should keep it on ~/.app | 16:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | but not sure how to remove it after | 16:37 |
| heymaster | I'm using QString known_host_dir = QDesktopServices::storageLocation(QDesktopServices::DataLocation) | 16:37 |
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| ZogG_laptop | no idea | 16:41 |
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| ZogG_laptop | i'm noob :P | 16:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | niwakame|away: but you are still around, aren't you? | 16:42 |
| heymaster | i'm too :) | 16:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | i think i'm more noob than you :P | 16:42 |
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| kevin_b | hello | 17:55 |
| kevin_b | any resource on how to list media url tracked on the phone? | 17:55 |
| kevin_b | on the the c/c++ side | 17:55 |
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| djszapi | mf2hd: hi, you were looking for an owncloud sync service, right? | 18:00 |
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| mf2hd | djszapi: yeah, it would be nice | 18:04 |
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| djszapi | mf2hd: I have just put one into the community repository. | 18:07 |
| mf2hd | oh, nice! | 18:10 |
| mf2hd | going to install it later today for sure =) | 18:11 |
| djszapi | cheers =) | 18:11 |
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| mf2hd | at last i can get proper sync to n9 | 18:13 |
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| mf2hd | with encryption and nice webui =) | 18:13 |
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| mf2hd | at least once in a lifetime it payed of to ask something in irc :D | 18:13 |
| valdur55 | what package? | 18:17 |
| khertan | there is KhtNotes also which use ownCloud to sync his notes :) | 18:18 |
| djszapi | we have soon 700 packages in the community repository, yay | 18:21 |
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| djszapi | I mean successfully built. | 18:22 |
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| djszapi | how many packages were available in maemo extra back then? | 18:26 |
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| djszapi | merlin1991: do you know that? ^ | 18:30 |
| jpnurmi | hmm, the accounts i create with Accounts::Manager are accessible to any other app? | 18:32 |
| jpnurmi | i made some test accounts and was a bit surprised to see them in accounts-qml-example | 18:33 |
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| jpnurmi | mardy: ping? | 18:44 |
| djszapi | jpnurmi: are you going to be part of the Nokia to Digia transition? | 18:45 |
| jpnurmi | djszapi: yes | 18:45 |
| mardy | jpnurmi: pong | 18:47 |
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| mardy | jpnurmi: yes, the accounts DB is shared (in ~/.accounts/accounts.db, IIRC) | 18:48 |
| jpnurmi | mardy: is there any way to create private accounts? | 18:49 |
| mardy | jpnurmi: I'm not sure if the libaccounts in Harmattan supports it, but at least in Ubuntu you can specify the DB location with an environemnt variable | 18:52 |
| mardy | jpnurmi: but why do you need a private one? what kind of account is it? | 18:52 |
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| jpnurmi | mardy: i thought about using accounts-qt for storing evernote credentials | 18:55 |
| jpnurmi | i'm confused... there's an evernote account on my system, yet i cannot access it in my app. if i create my own account, anyone else can access it | 19:02 |
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| jpnurmi | storing the password in cleartext and readable by anyone is not acceptable.. even the evernote api license agreement mentions that | 19:05 |
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| valdur55 | Omg. i can't install quake2. Issues with ~/.quake dir premissions | 19:16 |
| valdur55 | chown: /home/user/.quake2/baseq2/config.cfg: Operation not permitted | 19:16 |
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| deram_ | s | 19:47 |
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| jonni | just got my Nexus7 from post... Now I'm looking if I should patch wpa_supplicant on android side, or to get hostapd working on harmattan.... | 20:45 |
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| sneakyc4 | hello | 20:51 |
| sneakyc4 | when building Qt3D deb package I got dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /lib/libstdc++.so.6 (used by debian/libqt4-3d/usr/lib/qt4/imports/Qt3D/libqthreedqmlplugin.so) | 20:51 |
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| djszapi | jonni: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=85028 | 20:59 |
| djszapi | The harmattan target does not seem to support Qt5 :( | 21:00 |
| djszapi | the harmattan plugin would need some modification, I guess. | 21:00 |
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| D_Cent | hi, i've got a question about aegis ... some people said they were not able to reboot their N9s because of "your device is malfunctioning" messages after uninstalling wazapp - can this be true? i'm actually aware of rebooting my phone now because i don't want to flash | 21:21 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | D_Cent: I have never seen this | 21:27 |
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| D_Cent | Sfiet_Konstantin: ok thanks, i will give it a try then | 21:32 |
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| djszapi | anybody willing to contribute to the community repository? | 21:55 |
| djszapi | the task is simple: going through stable and testing | 21:55 |
| djszapi | remove the entries from testing that are in stable. | 21:56 |
| djszapi | and submit the ones which are not, from testing to stable. | 21:56 |
| djszapi | I can give access rights for the task, but I do not have time to do this myself. | 21:56 |
| djszapi | probably 30-40 minutes job. | 21:56 |
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| djszapi_ | if anybody is willing to contribute to the qtquick2 components for harmattan: https://qt.gitorious.org/+harmattan/qt-components/harmattan-qt-components | 22:28 |
| djszapi_ | valdur55: you do not know how to use aegis, do you | 22:29 |
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| djszapi_ | jonni: ping | 23:11 |
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| pa | is there some way to assign a property with a context property? example : in the main i do rootContext()->setContextPropert("myCoolClass", &myCoolClass); | 23:15 |
| pa | in qml i would like to be able to do if(something) { obj = myCoolClass } else {obj= anotherObject } | 23:16 |
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| ZogG_laptop | pa, u can, as well js can help :P but i think u can without js | 23:25 |
| ZogG_laptop | oh | 23:25 |
| ZogG_laptop | pa, the better way is to make to functions, one for X and other for Y | 23:26 |
| * djszapi_ has just fixed one issue in the harmattan components for qt5 | 23:26 | |
| djszapi_ | -1 blocker towards the world domination | 23:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | or for matter you can just pass var in function and if 1 than do that and return x if 2 than do this and return Y | 23:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi, lol | 23:27 |
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| pa | ZogG_laptop, ah thanks :) well in my case the object to use can come from two different sources, so that's why i wanted to do that | 23:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | pa, make void function | 23:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | pointer to function even | 23:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | i meant void* | 23:31 |
| pa | but can i use it in qml? | 23:32 |
| pa | that would be perfect | 23:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | you do it in Qt side | 23:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | and u pass parameter to Qt from qml with var | 23:32 |
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| ZogG_laptop | and depending on that var you choice | 23:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | i think something like that | 23:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | but i'm noob so maybe there are better solutions :P | 23:33 |
| pa | well im noober probably :) | 23:33 |
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| ZogG_laptop | pa, don't think saw | 23:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | for example i know of void* functions but never used those :P | 23:35 |
| pa | you mean function pointers? well they are easy, once you get around the weird syntax c++ requires for them : ) | 23:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | pa, i met them at C :) | 23:40 |
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