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| PaulePanter | The N9’s battery is dead. Any experience or hints on how to replace it. Nokia would change it for 60 €, but I found one on Ebay for 13 €. | 08:30 |
| PaulePanter | http://www.ebay.de/itm/ORIGINAL-NOKIA-BV-5JW-FUR-LUMIA-800-N9-AKKU-ACCU-BATTERIE-1450mAh-/250995744635?pt=DE_Handy_PDA_Akkus&hash=item3a70831f7b#ht_2589wt_1179 | 08:31 |
| tomma | PaulePanter, use google to find N9 service manual | 08:35 |
| PaulePanter | tomma: Thanks. Could you elaborate, please? To check if the battery fits or to know how to change it? | 08:38 |
| tomma | service manual has instructions on how to open and change parts from phone | 08:39 |
| PaulePanter | tomma: Yeah. I also saw some video on YouTube on how to do that. So I am set. | 08:39 |
| PaulePanter | tomma: My only doubt is, if they really sell original Nokia batteries on Ebeay. | 08:40 |
| PaulePanter | ebay? | 08:40 |
| PaulePanter | ebay* | 08:40 |
| PaulePanter | -? | 08:40 |
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| beford | uh | 09:58 |
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| djszapi_ | beford: sup | 10:01 |
| beford | trying to package my app | 10:04 |
| beford | well I've got a package already with psa build-deb, but those packages are not optified | 10:05 |
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| pa | beford, i can share with you my script if u want | 11:18 |
| pa | it works outside scratchbox | 11:18 |
| pa | PaulePanter, did you find it on ebay? some months ago i was looking for it but couldnt find anywhere.. | 11:19 |
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| corecode | hi | 13:08 |
| corecode | i'm trying to build a package for harmattan, but i'm fairly lost | 13:08 |
| corecode | https://github.com/webhamster/advancedcaching | 13:08 |
| corecode | this one | 13:08 |
| corecode | i installed the qt sdk with harmattan support, but now what? | 13:08 |
| corecode | somehow i need a chroot to do the packaging, no? | 13:09 |
| djszapi_ | no | 13:09 |
| djszapi_ | qt creator should do that for you. | 13:09 |
| djszapi_ | unless you meant the platform SDK. | 13:11 |
| corecode | hm, how do i go about doing this? | 13:13 |
| djszapi_ | doing what exactly? | 13:13 |
| djszapi_ | you have still clarified what development environment you have chosen. | 13:14 |
| djszapi_ | not* | 13:14 |
| corecode | i have not chosen anything | 13:14 |
| corecode | i downloaded the qt sdk | 13:15 |
| djszapi_ | Would you like to work with Qt Creator or scratchbox? | 13:15 |
| corecode | qt creator, i suppose | 13:15 |
| corecode | scratchbox was a lot of pain last time i tried | 13:15 |
| corecode | i just found something about madde | 13:16 |
| djszapi_ | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Publishing_Packaging_your_application.html | 13:16 |
| corecode | no idea how that plays with that package | 13:17 |
| corecode | i should clarify, this is not my package | 13:17 |
| corecode | i'm just trying to build it, since it is lacking a deb i can install | 13:17 |
| djszapi_ | read the page above, please. | 13:18 |
| corecode | it keeps talking about qt creator | 13:21 |
| corecode | i don't think that app is done with qt creator | 13:21 |
| djszapi_ | You have said, you would like to use QtCreator.. | 13:22 |
| corecode | ok, let me start over | 13:22 |
| corecode | there is this application, which i did not write, which i'd like to build for my n9 | 13:23 |
| corecode | i've downloaded the QtSDK from nokia | 13:23 |
| corecode | now i wonder what to do | 13:23 |
| djszapi_ | read the manual. | 13:25 |
| corecode | well, the manual talks about using qt creator to create your own app | 13:26 |
| djszapi_ | and come back later, if you have /specific/ trouble with something, or the manual is not understandable. | 13:26 |
| corecode | essentially, i just need a shell environment where i can run debbuild | 13:26 |
| corecode | that's really it | 13:26 |
| djszapi_ | have you actually looked into the manual? | 13:27 |
| corecode | yes | 13:27 |
| djszapi_ | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Alternative_development_environments_Platform_SDK_user_guide_Packaging_and_running_binaries_on_the_device.html?tab=3&q=platform%20sdk&sp=all | 13:27 |
| corecode | it talks about madde | 13:27 |
| djszapi_ | there is a search at the top left... | 13:27 |
| djszapi_ | please, start using the manual.. | 13:27 |
| corecode | ... | 13:27 |
| djszapi_ | it was written for exactly this purpose, to introduce the development process to the developers. | 13:28 |
| djszapi_ | if you have specific questions, people are keen on help, but they are not on repeating the whole manual. | 13:28 |
| corecode | i did have a secific question: | 13:29 |
| * djszapi_ is bailing out | 13:29 | |
| corecode | how do i get a shell environment which is set up so that i can use the debian packaging tools that come with the qt sdk | 13:30 |
| corecode | i just need a prompt where i can run debuild | 13:30 |
| djszapi_ | http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/guide/html/Developer_Library_Alternative_development_environments_MADDE_terminal_user_guide.html?tab=3&q=madde&sp=all | 13:30 |
| djszapi_ | seriously, if you do not wanna help for yourself, you make others' life hard. | 13:31 |
| corecode | i'm reading this | 13:31 |
| djszapi_ | no, you are just flooding here. | 13:31 |
| djszapi_ | but perhaps someone will have the time to repeat or paste the manual here, if that makes you happy... | 13:31 |
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| corecode | aha. | 13:37 |
| corecode | debuild does not come with qtsdk | 13:37 |
| corecode | that explains things | 13:37 |
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| rashm2k | elo elo | 14:03 |
| rashm2k | how can a list delegate know what index it is at? | 14:04 |
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| ZogG_laptop | with magic | 14:06 |
| rashm2k | ???? | 14:07 |
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| corecode | to follow up to my earlier question: | 14:08 |
| corecode | the answer is "you don't need any special setup" | 14:08 |
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| heymaster-laptop | how to submit app to contest? | 14:13 |
| ZogG_laptop | better to get help at thread | 14:16 |
| ZogG_laptop | there is official thread on TMO | 14:16 |
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| heymaster-laptop | ok will check | 14:17 |
| ZogG_laptop | than do it please | 14:19 |
| rashm2k | any ideas on how you can get the index of a list delegate? | 14:22 |
| ZogG_laptop | there is var for index | 14:23 |
| rashm2k | is this available within the delegate it self? | 14:23 |
| ZogG_laptop | i think | 14:24 |
| rashm2k | so the var is called index? | 14:25 |
| ZogG_laptop | http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qml-listview.html#count-prop | 14:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | i don't rememeber | 14:26 |
| ZogG_laptop | i think there is index var | 14:27 |
| rashm2k | I'm not sure that will be available within the delegate itself | 14:28 |
| ZogG_laptop | but anyway you can make global var and count on every delegation | 14:28 |
| rashm2k | how? | 14:28 |
| rashm2k | sorry yes | 14:29 |
| rashm2k | it says The index is exposed as an accessible index property. | 14:29 |
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| djszapi_ | Hi! Can I overcome the limitation of being unable to download maps over mobile internet connection? | 14:37 |
| djszapi_ | I do not unfortunately have a wired connection, nor wifi. | 14:37 |
| rashm2k | Does it not download the maps dynamically as you are travelling? | 14:38 |
| djszapi_ | that is not quite what I wish... | 14:39 |
| djszapi_ | I would like to download entire maps in one step. | 14:39 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: hotspot for laptop and download from laptop :P | 14:39 |
| djszapi_ | ZogG_laptop: how? | 14:39 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: traveling in China means hefty roaming... | 14:40 |
| djszapi_ | and no, I would not like to move around in a big city by hand. | 14:40 |
| rashm2k | I tried this wireless hotspot using a laptop | 14:40 |
| djszapi_ | I would like to download it in one step, and then I have everyting in that city. | 14:40 |
| rashm2k | it works | 14:40 |
| rashm2k | give me 2 mins to check it out | 14:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | there is builtin app for hotspot | 14:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | you enable it and it gives u pasword | 14:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | simple as is | 14:41 |
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| rashm2k | thats it | 14:43 |
| djszapi_ | simple what? | 14:43 |
| rashm2k | hostapd | 14:43 |
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| rashm2k | a linux utility | 14:43 |
| djszapi_ | I do not still know how to download a map for the phone.l | 14:43 |
| djszapi_ | phone* | 14:43 |
| rashm2k | it'll giv eyou a wireless hotspot | 14:43 |
| djszapi_ | congratulation for reinveting joikuspot | 14:44 |
| djszapi_ | reinventing* | 14:44 |
| djszapi_ | but as you can see, this is not my problem | 14:44 |
| djszapi_ | since I have been using this irc via the hotspot for weeks... | 14:44 |
| djszapi_ | the problem is that I do not know where these maps originate from. | 14:44 |
| djszapi_ | and how I could feed the maps application with those explicitely. | 14:44 |
| rashm2k | ???? | 14:44 |
| rashm2k | You have a wired connection? | 14:44 |
| rashm2k | So create a wirelesss hotspot and download the maps | 14:45 |
| djszapi_ | I would appreciate avoiding two-way hotspot, if possible. | 14:45 |
| rashm2k | two way? | 14:46 |
| djszapi_ | how would you call that if youhave hotspot on both ends? | 14:46 |
| djszapi_ | three-way, one-way? | 14:46 |
| djszapi_ | you have* | 14:46 |
| djszapi_ | 12:44 < djszapi_> the problem is that I do not know where these maps originate from. | 14:46 |
| djszapi_ | 12:44 < djszapi_> and how I could feed the maps application with those explicitely. | 14:47 |
| djszapi_ | I believe this is the real question. | 14:47 |
| djszapi_ | so I need 1) Url 2) device location. | 14:47 |
| rashm2k | sorry I don't understand | 14:47 |
| djszapi_ | do not worry, others will. | 14:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: you use drive? | 14:49 |
| djszapi_ | ZogG_laptop: like I said, no, maps. | 14:49 |
| ZogG_laptop | i think those use same maps, don't they? | 14:50 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: check TMO than | 14:50 |
| djszapi_ | no clue, but I do not even care. | 14:50 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: if you don't care, why would we care to help you? | 14:50 |
| djszapi_ | all I need is where to download those maps from manually, if possible, and where exactly to put on the device. | 14:50 |
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| rashm2k | djszapi_ why would you want to do that? | 14:50 |
| djszapi_ | you should not really care about helping whether drive or maps use the same. | 14:50 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: to get the maps? | 14:51 |
| ZogG_laptop | sometimes i dont get how people ask question and when u try to help they answer like that | 14:51 |
| rashm2k | create a wirless hotspot | 14:51 |
| rashm2k | using laptop | 14:51 |
| rashm2k | then go into settings on phone and click download maps | 14:51 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: why don't you read what I mean? | 14:51 |
| djszapi_ | I have said few times, I would appreciate avoiding the two-way hotspotting. | 14:51 |
| djszapi_ | if possible. | 14:51 |
| ZogG_laptop | why is it 2 way? | 14:52 |
| ZogG_laptop | you have bluetooth | 14:52 |
| ZogG_laptop | or cable | 14:52 |
| djszapi_ | huh ? | 14:52 |
| ZogG_laptop | you need internet on latop to download | 14:52 |
| ZogG_laptop | why is it 2 way? | 14:52 |
| djszapi_ | because like I wrote many times already, I have a hotspot from my phone to the laptop... | 14:52 |
| rashm2k | but you said you have wired connection? | 14:53 |
| djszapi_ | aka. joikuspot | 14:53 |
| ZogG_laptop | so your laptop or phone has internet?? | 14:53 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: 12:37 < djszapi_> I do not unfortunately have a wired connection, nor wifi. | 14:53 |
| rashm2k | ooooohhhhhhh | 14:53 |
| djszapi_ | ZogG_laptop: both | 14:53 |
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| djszapi_ | rashm2k: the line right after my question | 14:54 |
| djszapi_ | why I had the question at all | 14:54 |
| rashm2k | do you have a cheap android phone? | 14:54 |
| djszapi_ | you did not bother to read my second line :) | 14:54 |
| rashm2k | or one you can borrow | 14:54 |
| djszapi_ | unfortunately no | 14:54 |
| rashm2k | 3g dongle? | 14:54 |
| djszapi_ | again, an 1) Url 2) Location - would help. | 14:54 |
| rashm2k | yes but other options would be so much easier | 14:55 |
| djszapi_ | (if that way is possible, if not I need proves as well) | 14:55 |
| djszapi_ | buying an android phone? | 14:55 |
| djszapi_ | no, thanks | 14:55 |
| rashm2k | lol | 14:55 |
| djszapi_ | surely, everybody should buy an android phone for solving such issues :D | 14:55 |
| djszapi_ | how clever.. | 14:55 |
| rashm2k | 3g dongle? | 14:55 |
| djszapi_ | not for this provider, no. | 14:56 |
| rashm2k | they are easy to unlock | 14:56 |
| djszapi_ | I have a vodafone, but that is not compatible with another provider's sim card. | 14:56 |
| rashm2k | which model number is it? | 14:56 |
| djszapi_ | I can do this at home in few minutes? | 14:57 |
| djszapi_ | to unlock the usb modem? | 14:57 |
| rashm2k | yes | 14:57 |
| djszapi_ | without breaking it, so no any risks? | 14:57 |
| rashm2k | no | 14:57 |
| rashm2k | I done it plenty of times | 14:57 |
| rashm2k | even if it breaks they are only £10 brand new | 14:57 |
| djszapi_ | K3770 | 14:57 |
| djszapi_ | HSPA USB Stick. | 14:57 |
| djszapi_ | no... | 14:58 |
| djszapi_ | it was something like 40-50 EUR | 14:58 |
| rashm2k | http://jknoproblem.blogspot.co.uk/p/how-to-unlock-vodafone-k3770-z-zte.html | 14:58 |
| rashm2k | http://mymodem.in/vodafone-k3770-z-unlock-solution-by-nirav/ | 14:58 |
| djszapi_ | also, I do not really know how this unlocking and then sim card move, back, hotspot from laptop etc is simpler | 14:59 |
| djszapi_ | than ssh+cd+wget | 14:59 |
| djszapi_ | if I know the url for wget, and the location for cd | 15:00 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: what maps you need? | 15:00 |
| djszapi_ | could be done even with one ssh command, and just wget | 15:00 |
| rashm2k | try this | 15:00 |
| djszapi_ | ZogG_laptop: right now Galway city, but could have a need for any in the future... | 15:00 |
| ZogG_laptop | what country? | 15:00 |
| rashm2k | grep the qml files on the device for http | 15:00 |
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| djszapi_ | ZogG_laptop: lol, afganistan | 15:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | fuck it | 15:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | i wanted to download for you on device and upload to dropbox | 15:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | but your attitude is kiling | 15:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | do it yourself | 15:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | nice day | 15:01 |
| djszapi_ | cheers | 15:02 |
| djszapi_ | rashm2k: qml files where? | 15:02 |
| djszapi_ | and why qml files only? | 15:02 |
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| rashm2k | be easier to read troi try and understand | 15:04 |
| djszapi_ | I wonder nobody faced this issue yet | 15:04 |
| djszapi_ | perhaps the map dowloading is not a wanted feature. | 15:05 |
| djszapi_ | otherwise everybody would face this with mobile internet connection. | 15:05 |
| djszapi_ | but it is really useful when you go abroad, and you would like to avoid the roaming. | 15:05 |
| djszapi_ | and still having proper map for the place. | 15:05 |
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| rashm2k | yes but nearly everyone has wireless | 15:06 |
| djszapi_ | on mobile phones on the way? | 15:06 |
| djszapi_ | I highly doubt that. | 15:06 |
| djszapi_ | most people rather have mobile internet | 15:06 |
| djszapi_ | actually an N9 without a mobile internet is weird to be honest :) | 15:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | people are smart enuf to download maps before they go | 15:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | and wifi in hotels is fine | 15:07 |
| djszapi_ | I doubt that to be honest | 15:07 |
| djszapi_ | most geeks I talked to prefer wired internet for speed, and mobile internet for the phone. | 15:08 |
| djszapi_ | either way, my question about url and location are still valid. | 15:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | if i go to other country i pack bag and i prepare all i may need, documents, chargers, MAPS :P | 15:08 |
| djszapi_ | pfff | 15:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | djszapi_: google is your friend | 15:08 |
| djszapi_ | so if anybody knows how the maps application handles the maps, please speak up. | 15:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | 15:09 | |
| infobot | from memory, google is http://google.com | 15:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | ~maps | 15:09 |
| infobot | maps are at http://users.pandora.be/dpf/bzWorlds/index.html | 15:09 |
| ZogG_laptop | gri: sup | 15:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | why kickstar pay thru amazon only | 15:13 |
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| djszapi_ | pa: cannot stand not irc'ing while biking :P | 16:11 |
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| djszapi_ | rashm2k: have you heard of stories that broke the 3g dongle with those unlockings? | 16:16 |
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| rashm2k | djszapi_ | 17:07 |
| rashm2k | it's generally quite saf | 17:07 |
| rashm2k | e | 17:07 |
| djszapi_ | what can cause issues? | 17:08 |
| rashm2k | if you dont follow instructions | 17:08 |
| rashm2k | best to di=sable av scan | 17:08 |
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| rashm2k | how do you remove an item from a QML list? | 17:30 |
| djszapi_ | remove from the model? | 17:30 |
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| hedayat | Hi! I'd like to know how can I use localized numbers in QML? | 18:01 |
| hedayat | I have find Qt.formatDate/formatDateTime/formatTime for date and time; but nothing for numbers | 18:01 |
| hedayat | And it seems that there are no "Localize" objects available in QML in harmattan, while I found some pointers about it but it seems that it is not available in N9 | 18:03 |
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| djszapi_ | so which application is recommended now for getting from one place to another? The drive? | 18:03 |
| djszapi_ | by bike. | 18:03 |
| hedayat | djszapi_: probably yes. :P | 18:05 |
| djszapi_ | I presume maps and drives do not use internet once the maps are downloaded? | 18:06 |
| djszapi_ | so they all work offline with gps? | 18:06 |
| djszapi_ | making sure =) | 18:07 |
| hedayat | djszapi_: They can, but IIRC they also have an "online" mode too. You can check their settings (probably in Maps). | 18:07 |
| djszapi_ | "Sorry, something went wrong connecting to the server." | 18:08 |
| djszapi_ | I have just tried to type the destination. | 18:08 |
| dm8tbr | djszapi_: acquiring position is faster if you are online. also if you want to search for destinations it is faster if it can offload to the nokia servers. | 18:08 |
| djszapi_ | interesting | 18:09 |
| djszapi_ | it requires the city, address format | 18:09 |
| djszapi_ | "address city" did not work | 18:09 |
| djszapi_ | how much does it consume the battery while biking? | 18:10 |
| dm8tbr | as much as while walking or driving a car | 18:11 |
| djszapi_ | which is? | 18:12 |
| djszapi_ | great, it has battery saving while being in the background. | 18:12 |
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| pa | morning! | 18:31 |
| pa | er.. afternoon | 18:31 |
| djszapi_ | pa: hey dude! | 18:36 |
| pa | hey djszapi_ :) | 18:36 |
| pa | sup | 18:36 |
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| djszapi_ | pa: just about to off to a bike tour | 18:40 |
| djszapi_ | 80 km | 18:40 |
| djszapi_ | I am weak this weekend, no more 100+ :P | 18:40 |
| pa | night one, as you like ;) | 18:40 |
| djszapi_ | why? | 18:40 |
| djszapi_ | we do not have dark until 10 pm here. | 18:40 |
| pa | ah cool | 18:40 |
| djszapi_ | 80 km is viable in three hours | 18:40 |
| djszapi_ | 16:41 :) | 18:41 |
| pa | i thought it was getting dark earlier these days in southern europe :) | 18:41 |
| pa | ah right | 18:41 |
| djszapi_ | well, I am in Ireland | 18:41 |
| pa | the time zone is also different | 18:41 |
| djszapi_ | that is not quite south :) | 18:41 |
| djszapi_ | I should really buy a mounter | 18:41 |
| pa | did i convince you? :p | 18:41 |
| djszapi_ | the time is better spent on the bike with a smart phone in front of me | 18:41 |
| djszapi_ | well I can read | 18:41 |
| djszapi_ | I can chat etc | 18:42 |
| pa | thats true | 18:42 |
| djszapi_ | listen to a movie etc | 18:42 |
| djszapi_ | the question is the battery | 18:42 |
| pa | but with plastic on the screen it doesnt swipe well | 18:42 |
| djszapi_ | perhaps I could hook up a dynamo along with the lights | 18:42 |
| djszapi_ | to charge my N9 | 18:42 |
| djszapi_ | unsure | 18:42 |
| pa | and without it might be a bit exposed | 18:42 |
| pa | yes i was thinking about some sort of bike charger | 18:42 |
| pa | im sure it exist | 18:42 |
| djszapi_ | "bike charger" ? | 18:42 |
| djszapi_ | for smart phones, you mean? | 18:43 |
| pa | it shouldnt be a big deal to generate 500mw 5V | 18:43 |
| djszapi_ | in general bike charger is dynamo :P | 18:43 |
| djszapi_ | it depends how much it consumes | 18:43 |
| pa | yes a dynamo, bu tyou probably need something a bit more advanced | 18:43 |
| djszapi_ | I would not like to get slowed down too much either... | 18:43 |
| pa | coz you probably have to stabilize the current | 18:43 |
| pa | at least.. if you care about your N9 :) | 18:43 |
| djszapi_ | yeah | 18:44 |
| djszapi_ | sure | 18:44 |
| djszapi_ | actually I was the fan of the lights chargeable from USB | 18:44 |
| djszapi_ | but I reconsidered that | 18:44 |
| djszapi_ | dynamo with batteries work better | 18:44 |
| djszapi_ | there are dynamos you can turn off | 18:44 |
| djszapi_ | so no matter what happens, you will always have current | 18:44 |
| djszapi_ | and charging a led when your battery is off, it is not much energy anyways | 18:45 |
| pa | hehe :) | 18:45 |
| djszapi_ | it is not like 10-15+ years ago when you had those consuming lights... | 18:45 |
| djszapi_ | led should not consume too much | 18:45 |
| djszapi_ | how visible you would be, that is another question... | 18:45 |
| pa | anyway you could in principle also get one of those battery based usb chargers | 18:46 |
| pa | they would extend life of the N9 quite a bit | 18:46 |
| pa | sure enough to cycle 100km | 18:46 |
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| pa | i mean in theory 1450mA should be enough for 3 hours with screen on | 18:47 |
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| pa | or does N9 consume more than 500mA on active/screen on? | 18:47 |
| djszapi_ | well, if you watch a video, I am unsure. | 18:49 |
| djszapi_ | document reading probably not. | 18:50 |
| djszapi_ | right now, I need to have the phone in one hand, that is a must have. | 18:50 |
| djszapi_ | if I wanna use it. | 18:50 |
| djszapi_ | means, I can either make actions very roughly with one hand | 18:51 |
| djszapi_ | or I would need to use both hands, which sucks :) | 18:51 |
| djszapi_ | although, with a mounter that should be an extension for drive or a separate alarm app | 18:51 |
| djszapi_ | "remove your smart phone, dude" | 18:51 |
| pa | thats a good idea | 18:52 |
| pa | but i mean | 18:52 |
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| pa | if you stop for a moment it cant bug your life | 18:52 |
| djszapi_ | well you need to lock your bike | 18:53 |
| djszapi_ | so there could be a reasonable time | 18:53 |
| djszapi_ | and dismissable. | 18:53 |
| djszapi_ | I would even consider noisy alarm | 18:53 |
| djszapi_ | until you dismiss | 18:53 |
| djszapi_ | and the feature could be optional to not disturb others not using mounter | 18:53 |
| pa | :) | 18:54 |
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| pa | ok, question: Im trying to create a qdeclarativeitem | 19:35 |
| pa | and i somehow need to pass a pointer to a qqueue to the item | 19:36 |
| pa | or a pointer of an object that contains it | 19:36 |
| pa | how should i do that from QML? | 19:36 |
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| pa | like i have MyShinyItem { id: whatever; object: ? } | 19:37 |
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| faenil | set the qqueue with setContextProperty | 19:38 |
| faenil | so you have it on the qml side | 19:38 |
| faenil | pa, http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7-snapshot/qtbinding.html#embedding-c-objects-into-qml-components | 19:39 |
| pa | thanks :) | 19:40 |
| faenil | np :) | 19:41 |
| pa | whats the right way to share such stuff (qqueues, qlists) between objects, or even qml? | 20:01 |
| pa | some sort of qt shared pointers? | 20:01 |
| pa | ah no, QObject * | 20:02 |
| pa | plain | 20:02 |
| pa | but then how do i declare the Q_PROPERTY associated to a QObject *? | 20:04 |
| pa | (in the qdeclarativeitem i mean) | 20:04 |
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| djszapi_ | pa: reached 49.5 km / h :) | 20:50 |
| pa | uhu.. thats quite impressive :) on the flat? | 20:51 |
| djszapi_ | nope :P | 20:51 |
| pa | :) | 20:51 |
| djszapi_ | but still | 20:51 |
| djszapi_ | it is my record so far :) | 20:51 |
| pa | do u have citybike? | 20:51 |
| djszapi_ | last record was 42.8 | 20:51 |
| djszapi_ | on the same way | 20:51 |
| pa | or mountain? | 20:51 |
| djszapi_ | city | 20:51 |
| djszapi_ | but not so thin wheel | 20:51 |
| djszapi_ | unfortunately | 20:51 |
| djszapi_ | it is something like 27 mm | 20:51 |
| djszapi_ | my friend has 22 mm :P | 20:52 |
| pa | 27.. well it+s not so thick | 20:52 |
| djszapi_ | he usually bikes 70 km / h :) | 20:52 |
| djszapi_ | his record was 78 km / h, I think. | 20:53 |
| pa | im instead sitting and struggling about how to pass data to plot to my qdeclarativeitem plotter | 20:53 |
| pa | on a racebike once i reached 105, on a pretty steep street | 20:53 |
| djszapi_ | would this all be measured fine by gps by the way? | 20:53 |
| djszapi_ | how much precisity does it have? | 20:53 |
| djszapi_ | ah yeah, my friend dislikes the racebikes, so do I. | 20:53 |
| djszapi_ | it is not healthy... | 20:53 |
| pa | well im sure that it would work fine, if you keep the speed for at least 5-10 secs | 20:54 |
| pa | actually it seems that gps gets more accurate the faster you go | 20:54 |
| pa | (it seems to me) | 20:54 |
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| djszapi_ | 105 on a bike is .... I need to take my hat off... I believe ... | 20:55 |
| pa | yeah i agree its not healthy, thats also why i stopped using it, and now when i bike, i go on my mountain bike with gel seat :) | 20:55 |
| djszapi_ | hmm, I see. | 20:56 |
| djszapi_ | I should probably also get a mountain bike in Helsinki. | 20:56 |
| djszapi_ | do not suppose city bike would be fine for the winter. | 20:56 |
| pa | here people use nails on the tyres, when it's cold | 20:57 |
| pa | spikes i mean | 20:57 |
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| djszapi_ | interesting solution. | 20:58 |
| pa | heh :) | 20:59 |
| pa | so to pass data to a qdeclarative item i have to use qdeclarativelistproperties? | 20:59 |
| djszapi_ | could you please say the region again? | 20:59 |
| pa | jeez.. a more inefficient way no hah.. | 20:59 |
| pa | its norway | 21:00 |
| djszapi_ | I know | 21:00 |
| djszapi_ | it is the west | 21:00 |
| pa | called hordaland | 21:00 |
| djszapi_ | that might resemble Helsinki | 21:00 |
| pa | im sure there's some norwegian in here that can tell you more | 21:00 |
| djszapi_ | though probably more wet. | 21:00 |
| djszapi_ | and less snowy. | 21:00 |
| pa | oh definitely :) | 21:01 |
| djszapi_ | so less problem with bikes. | 21:01 |
| djszapi_ | during the winter, that is. | 21:01 |
| pa | but you need to be fine biking with the rain | 21:01 |
| pa | i'd prefer to bike with the snow | 21:01 |
| djszapi_ | sure | 21:01 |
| djszapi_ | falling snow is better than falling rain if it is not snow storm | 21:01 |
| djszapi_ | however the road is awkward if not cleaned. :) | 21:02 |
| djszapi_ | in that cold (-20/30), the smart phone would work better than the cycling computer I guess. | 21:02 |
| djszapi_ | read somewhere that, the cycling computer may stop working at that cold. | 21:02 |
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| pa | i also read that N9 doesnt work so good with -stuff :) | 21:03 |
| djszapi_ | my N9 was fine, except when I dropped accidentally into the snow, and I had to find it in the big snow bomb... | 21:03 |
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| djszapi_ | N9 was fine in -20/30 for me. | 21:04 |
| djszapi_ | irc-chatter and everything. | 21:04 |
| djszapi_ | I even used that in the snow fall. | 21:04 |
| djszapi_ | wondering if I was riding with 105 km/h, I would probably fall off with this road quality... | 21:06 |
| pa | so it sucks in IE? | 21:06 |
| pa | i thought roads were nice | 21:06 |
| pa | no eh | 21:06 |
| djszapi_ | perhaps it is in and around Dublin. | 21:06 |
| djszapi_ | but not on the countryside where I live. :-) | 21:06 |
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| pa | i dont get whats wrong with my code.. probably this is just not possible.. pastebin.com/ReASKESd | 21:29 |
| pa | when i try to set the property "data" from qml, everything crashes | 21:30 |
| pa | and it doesnt even enter the setData() method | 21:31 |
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| djszapi_ | pa: black magic, shall I remove it? :P | 21:44 |
| pa | yeah, without that it always help :) | 21:45 |
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| pa | djszapi, essentially i need to pass some data to a qdeclarative item. At the moment im binding a (QObject *) myqqueue to the rootContext, but it seens that inside qml, when i try to assign this qobject * to the property qobject *data in my Curve item, everything explodes | 21:51 |
| pa | i was wondering if there is any way to avoid qdeclarativelistproperties | 21:51 |
| djszapi_ | sorry, I do not have time for investigation. :) | 21:52 |
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| djszapi_ | pa: do you use spotify while biking? | 21:58 |
| pa | i stopped using it at all since it restricted the free usage | 22:01 |
| djszapi_ | how do you listen to music while biking? | 22:03 |
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| pa | mp3? :) | 22:05 |
| djszapi_ | that is not an application | 22:06 |
| pa | well with the player | 22:06 |
| pa | does anyone recall an app that does some graphing of something for N9, that is not in python and that is free and could be open source? | 22:07 |
| djszapi_ | hmm, I do not have a pocket on my biking trouser though... | 22:08 |
| djszapi_ | unsure where I would store the n9, even for listening to music... | 22:08 |
| djszapi_ | perhaps a bluetooth headset could help, but that would consume the battery a lot, I believe. | 22:08 |
| pa | armband? | 22:08 |
| djszapi_ | that could work. | 22:09 |
| djszapi_ | although, then I would not be able to suddenly browser the internet once I have a mounter and so forth. :) | 22:09 |
| djszapi_ | so really better to get the mounter. | 22:09 |
| djszapi_ | browse* | 22:10 |
| pa | with the mount, you probably need bluetooth earphones tho | 22:10 |
| djszapi_ | why? | 22:10 |
| pa | well i would feel weird with the cable hooked to the phone on the mount | 22:10 |
| djszapi_ | do not understand why. | 22:11 |
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| djszapi_ | you would just do the same as with other cable stuff, like cycling computer, etc | 22:11 |
| pa | well because the phone in the armband moves with you, the phone on the bike mount moves with the bike | 22:11 |
| djszapi_ | surround the frame etc | 22:11 |
| pa | therefore you would have a cable that hooks your ears to the bike :) | 22:12 |
| pa | its probably fine | 22:12 |
| pa | but i would feel uncomf | 22:12 |
| djszapi_ | why is that problematic? | 22:12 |
| djszapi_ | have not ever tried, but most likely I would hear too much from the music directly on the mounter | 22:13 |
| djszapi_ | would not* | 22:13 |
| pa | yeah, n9 is so quiet | 22:13 |
| djszapi_ | when vehicles pass me. | 22:13 |
| djszapi_ | with 80-100 :) | 22:14 |
| djszapi_ | even with earphones, there would be most likely problems in that case | 22:14 |
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| pa | ok so i found an example using qvariantlist | 22:22 |
| pa | it sucks that to plot data, it has to be copied into an appropriate container | 22:22 |
| pa | im frustrated. | 22:23 |
| pa | i go home | 22:23 |
| djszapi_ | :) | 22:23 |
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| Scifig | Hi, is there a way to start "All Songs" playlist of Harmattan Music Player from command line? I have tried invoking MusicSuiteInterface using dbus command line but so far I could only get individual songs to play. | 22:38 |
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