IRC log of #harmattan for Monday, 2012-04-23

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gabriel9anyone can debug apps on N9?00:12
gabriel9i installed debugging stuff on N9, i also enabled debugging on project tab00:13
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kralorhey anyone knows if youtube fails after the new update?01:00
kraloror maybe after installing firefox+flash01:01
itsnotabigtruckkralor: "the new update"?01:01
kralorI get a "can't play the video"01:01
kraloryeah PR1.201:01
itsnotabigtruckoh...that's hardly new01:01
itsnotabigtruckit came out at the end of february01:01
kraloryeah well I received the update a couple of days ago01:02
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itsnotabigtrucki always get confused when someone comes in here saying that because the new new update is coming in a few days to a few weeks01:02
itsnotabigtruckas for why it doesn't work...not sure there01:03
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itsnotabigtruckif all else fails you could reflash01:03
itsnotabigtruckwhen pr1.3 comes out, don't wait01:03
itsnotabigtruckjust get the 001 bin file and flash it01:03
kralorok01:04
itsnotabigtruckespecially because, if you have some carrier-branded version and decide you want to go unbranded, and you wait and upgrade to a new branded version, it won't be easy to go to the unbranded version01:04
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alterego1.3 isn't for a while yet01:06
alteregoProbably not until June01:06
itsnotabigtruckalterego: what? that makes no sense01:09
itsnotabigtruckunless they decided all of a sudden to delay it by a lot01:09
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ibrakalifahello07:14
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itsnotabigtrucki'm trying to help creamy out with his overclock app and...wow07:25
itsnotabigtruckrunning into so many evil qt creator idiosyncracies i didn't know about07:25
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CreamyG31338yeah hopefully you don't need sleep07:27
itsnotabigtruckheh07:30
itsnotabigtruckit's only 11 here but i ought to sleep sooner rather than later07:31
CreamyG31338oh sweet, i got a blank green icon07:35
CreamyG31338getting somewhere :\07:35
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merlin1991X-Fade: ping (friend of mine needs an cobs account to build for apps.formeego.com)14:02
merlin1991err formeego.org14:03
X-Fademerlin1991: What is his username?14:03
merlin1991kelvan (on irc)14:03
merlin1991and while you're on it, I need an account aswell :D14:04
X-FadeOk, enabled both.14:04
merlin1991anywhere I can login to comfirm that now (webform)14:06
merlin1991ah seems to work :)14:07
merlin1991thanks X-Fade14:09
X-FadeSometimes things are easy :)14:11
phakooh14:11
phakoI'd need one too. Let me look up my username14:11
phakofor apps.formeego.org14:11
trupheenixanyone got tips on how to control the size of images and text in a QWebView?14:12
phakoX-Fade: jensgeorg14:13
X-Fadephako: Ok, should work for you now.14:13
phakoX-Fade: thanks14:13
pinheiro__hummm any one having troubles with the phonecalls taing a long time to notify you of incoming phone call?14:13
pinheiro__aka more than 30 seconds14:14
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phakoX-Fade: works.14:25
trupheenixdoes anyone have tips on how to increase size of images and text when using a QML WebView?14:39
jonnitrupheenix: by for example using  webview.contentsScale14:44
jonniie zooms everything bigger14:44
trupheenixjonni, ok14:45
trupheenixjonni, i was seeing a web page on Grob. i see Grob somehow makes all the images and text larger. i don't know on what basis. but when i use a qml webview it doesn't behave same.14:46
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jonnitrupheenix: grob uses contentsScale aswell.14:47
trupheenixjonni, but grob fits everything within the viewport. it doesn't expand the view port. maybe i am going wrong with my qml then?14:48
trupheenixjonni, http://pastie.org/383861914:49
trupheenixjonni, basically i want to restrict the contents within the width of the screen.14:53
jonniwell yes grob uses webviewport Item which contains the stuff, and your using Page directly, so you need to add one more layer to fit everything within the viewport14:53
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trupheenixjonni, ok14:58
trupheenixjonni, but is there a qml webviewport?14:58
jonnitrupheenix: yes there is, but most likely its not public, you can try google WebViewport.qml though,14:59
trupheenixjonni, ok are there any other alternatives?14:59
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jonnitrupheenix: well depends, what you are really trying to achieve. I dont see without testing that whats your problem. setting static width and height to page, or similar15:02
trupheenixjonni, problem is i don't want to set it to a static value. i plan to launch the app for N8 and Symbian Belle devices as well.15:02
jonniwell can set root.width and root.height etc15:03
trupheenixjonni, does that work even?15:03
trupheenixjonni, maybe i got it wrong the last time around. let me try.15:03
jonnibut basicly grob uses http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/library/html/qt4/demos-declarative-webbrowser-content-flickablewebview-qml.html15:07
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trupheenixjonni, ok.15:08
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jonnithat has the doupleclick to zoom etc functionality in that example.15:09
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trupheenixjonni, i don't want to zoom in. i just want the web page elements to appear larger.15:11
trupheenixjonni, anyways, this example didn't launch on my device. no idea why.15:12
jonnithat file is not standalone, but part of the browser example, ie you need to modify the bindings if you want that to run standalone.15:13
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paare there official packages for git or svn on harmattan?17:20
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KhertanHi all !17:23
Khertanwhat's new ?17:23
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trxpa no17:37
trxbut there is git in rzr's repo17:37
trxKhertan hello17:38
Khertanoh :)17:38
Khertantrx: but it wasn't new17:38
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trxyeap, same old hello :)17:39
Khertani remember having push it since my n950 was in my hand to the rzr repo17:39
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befordhi17:42
* Khertan is waiting Nokia OVI QA for KhtSimpleText 0.4.117:42
Khertanhi beford17:42
befordhow is it going Khertan17:42
Khertanlike a monday17:42
Khertanborring works to do17:42
Khertanwould like to change job17:43
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befordhehe17:43
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befordhttp://www.engadget.com/2012/04/23/nokia-n900-replaces-bioloid-robots-head/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter17:46
Khertanand i don't know if i should bought diablo3 as my wife will not let me play with it17:46
Khertandon't know if i should start the devel of a note taking application as none i like on n95017:47
Khertanbut this ll mean i need time, and the most important part will be a website and sync feature17:47
Khertanmaybe i should make a client for http://notepad.konstruktors.com/17:50
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kozziis there a cloud notepad client for harmattan ?21:04
jonniyes, ssh & vi :)21:08
kozziterminal is cool but using it with n9 kind of sucks :(21:09
kozziperhaps better with n95021:09
Ariejonni: once info is corrupted on tracker can it be saved or is it gone? like text messages for instance21:09
mankeli_kozzi: fingerterm is a great help. of course it's not like hw kbd but still much better than meegoterm. especially if you use swype21:10
kozzimankeli_ : jep it's great but too bad it doesn't have skandinavian kb21:12
dm8tbrkozzi: you can customize the layout IIRC21:14
kozzidm8tbr: thanks, it has finnish layout \o/21:19
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dm8tbrwell, the author is finnish... :)21:19
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jonniArie: for normal people its gone, but if you are familiar with sql then you 'could' fix the corrupted datarecords, but I dont remember seeing howto in the forums.21:23
mankelihttp://vim-adventures.com/21:23
kozzii got permission denied even with devel-su enabled21:26
kozzihow to save this settings.ini ? I use nano21:26
Ariejonni: anywhere to read up on how to do it?21:26
Ariekozzi: cntl x21:26
Ariekozzi: then y or yes21:27
mankelictrl+o saves21:27
kozziyeah I did that, but still got premission denied21:27
Arieare you root?21:27
kozzisame with ctrl+o21:27
Ariekozzi: are you root?21:27
kozzidoes devel-su + rootme counts as root ?21:27
Ariekozzi: yes21:29
kozzithen I am root, but still premission denied21:29
jonniif your trying to edit file owned by user, then you should be getting permission denied.21:30
kozzioh21:30
jonniyou need to edit user owned files as user, and root owned files as root21:30
tommaand somethings require develsh =)21:31
kozzijonni: thanks, it's owned by user21:32
kozziAriel: thanks for helping21:32
Ariekozzi: i try21:33
kozzinow any idea how to edit "ssh screen example" =21:35
kozzi?21:35
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kozzinvm, found it21:37
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susundbergArie: hello21:46
Ariesusundberg: hey21:47
susundbergso my question was does anyone have suggestions where to find a document that gives some insight how to get buttons like (http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/docs/ux/pages/Buttons.html) deployed with Qt Creator21:48
susundbergOr any other good tutorial 'how to develop' when targetting N9 is also appreciated21:48
petteriif I remember correctly the example qml app created with qtsdk has one hello world button21:49
susundbergyes, but no the qt creator design mode does not21:50
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susundbergor is the only way just to edit the .qml file ?21:50
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susundbergor is my qt creator installation maybe broken .. hmm21:51
petteridesigner does not work21:51
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petteriyou can just edit the qml file21:51
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susundbergok, thanks21:53
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itsnotabigtruckkozzi: alternatively you could run nano from opensh22:12
itsnotabigtruckthat will let you edit anything anywhere22:12
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mankelioh no. i just had a certain anonymous russian friend to translate n9 disassembly video for me, and now i notice that there is also an actual service manual online :-D22:33
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itsnotabigtrucklol22:36
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mankelioh well, since it's already done now, i can just as well prepare those as a youtube-format subtitles and submit them to the goldphone22:37
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Arielol22:38
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