| MohammadAG | while we're talking about antialiasing | 00:00 |
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| MohammadAG | WTF is it, in 1 sentence | 00:00 |
| Venemo_N950 | gri, weirdly, the app performs a LOT better since I got rid of QWidgets in it, but still not perfect | 00:00 |
| Venemo_N950 | MohammadAG, you want to know what antialiasing is? | 00:00 |
| gri | Venemo_N950: yeah strange there's not so much to see that it should slow down | 00:01 |
| gri | calculating average color values of neighbor pixels? | 00:01 |
| Venemo_N950 | nope | 00:01 |
| Venemo_N950 | all heavy stuff is done before the game starts | 00:01 |
| gri | no, I meant that's what I think what antialiasing is :) | 00:02 |
| pawky | MohammadAG: well, when it comes to graphics, its all about making things look less jagged... | 00:02 |
| Venemo_N950 | well, antialiasing, simply put, means the employment of some technique to make edges appear smoother. | 00:02 |
| interiorcrocodil | is there an android logcat equivalent for n9? | 00:03 |
| pawky | MohammadAG: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_aliasing | 00:03 |
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| MohammadAG | interiorcrocodil, syslog | 00:23 |
| MohammadAG | the standard linux syslog | 00:23 |
| interiorcrocodil | MohammadAG: what if system hasn't fully booted yet | 00:27 |
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| interiorcrocodil | can it output messages through usb? | 00:27 |
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| Venemo_N950 | MohammadAG, ping | 02:19 |
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| TSCHAKeee | hmmm, any examples on how to set up a Page that uses the inverted (Dark) colours? | 02:26 |
| mgedmin | TSCHAKeee, I looked that up once and added this to my main.qml: | 02:28 |
| mgedmin | Component.onCompleted: theme.inverted = true // Prefer white on black | 02:28 |
| TSCHAKeee | got it. | 02:28 |
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| Venemo_N950 | MohammadAG, zz_gri, OK, it seems that I was able to optimize the performance in some ways :) | 03:07 |
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| rs65 | Hi, do I have to do something "special" to access a QObject property? I have an Album class (that inherits QObject) with "code" property, I have a list of QObjects (Albums), and when I do qDebug() << downloadQueue.first().property("code") I get QVariant(, ) | 04:42 |
| rs65 | am I missing something? | 04:42 |
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| ieatlint | very OT, but as a bit of news... kim jong il is dead | 05:08 |
| i483 | I have a InfoBanner and if I call banner.show the banner is visible just the first time, I there something I need to do? | 05:14 |
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| luke-jr | ieatlint: so UN takes over? | 05:22 |
| ieatlint | if that's a serious question, then no, mcdonalds does | 05:25 |
| ieatlint | apparently, according to NK state tv, his cause of death is working too hard | 05:29 |
| ieatlint | a photoblog commemorating his lifelong work http://kimjongillookingatthings.tumblr.com/ | 05:31 |
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| SpeedEvil | Being the glorious leader is hard work. | 05:40 |
| SpeedEvil | Who was the son with a silly name? | 05:40 |
| ieatlint | i dunno, we just call him leader now | 05:46 |
| yipdw | SpeedEvil: Kim Jong-un, perhaps | 05:59 |
| * SpeedEvil tries to convince himself he doesn't need an atomic clock for christmas. | 06:00 | |
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| TSCHAKeee | What are we supposed to use in QML to do swipe gestures? | 06:55 |
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| u8 | Hi, do I need special permissions to write to a file in /home/user/MyDocs/ from my app? I'm using QNetworkAccessManager to download a file, it works fine on desktop but on Harmattan I get a 1 bit file | 07:52 |
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| DocScrutinizer | no, you usually can write to that location | 07:54 |
| * DocScrutinizer wonders how a 1bit file looks like | 07:55 | |
| DocScrutinizer | occasionally you get "strange effects" due to the fact the fs on MyDocs is VFAT | 07:56 |
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| DocScrutinizer | so no user, no permissions, no execute... | 07:56 |
| u8 | and could you think of a reason of why it doesn't work? | 07:56 |
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| u8 | I even tried /home/user | 07:57 |
| u8 | and the same thing happens | 07:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | not really, when you don't request special permissions, or odd filename that's forbidden on VFAT. But then it's not a 1bit file (assuming you meant 1 byte) | 07:58 |
| u8 | the file it's like 2Mb | 07:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | strace it | 07:59 |
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| DocScrutinizer | you'll see "plain text" what happens | 07:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | I assume a bug in your program | 08:00 |
| u8 | but it works on desktop | 08:00 |
| u8 | and maemo | 08:00 |
| u8 | it download the file | 08:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | hmm | 08:00 |
| u8 | that's why I don't understand why it is failing to do it | 08:01 |
| u8 | on N950 | 08:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | hope you're not running it as root | 08:01 |
| u8 | of course not | 08:01 |
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| DocScrutinizer | nfi, strace! | 08:01 |
| u8 | I've tried as developer and as user | 08:01 |
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| TSCHAKeee | arrrggghhh | 08:08 |
| TSCHAKeee | does anyone have code for a simple swipe gesture?! | 08:08 |
| Sazpaimon | not sure how i could stand my n900 after harmattan | 08:14 |
| Sazpaimon | its just so much more responsive | 08:14 |
| TSCHAKeee | :/ | 08:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | tbh I never could stand harmattan despite any pinching and responsiveness, and it's always a delight to go back to N900 | 08:15 |
| TSCHAKeee | guess i will have to roll my own :/ | 08:16 |
| Aranel_N9_ | Sazpaimon exactly my train of thought. I couldn't, | 08:19 |
| Sazpaimon | I gave my N900 to my girlfriend | 08:21 |
| Sazpaimon | she uses it for sketch | 08:21 |
| Sazpaimon | tried to use mypaint on it, but its so laggy | 08:21 |
| Sazpaimon | i couldnt do it | 08:21 |
| Aranel_N9_ | I gave it to my mom, she was using so ancient phones, I couldnt stand it anymore. | 08:22 |
| interiorcrocodil | hi DocScrutinizer | 08:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | hi | 08:25 |
| interiorcrocodil | sorry, i really don't see which link is relevant to me | 08:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/ http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/SDK_Sources_PR1.1.ISO | 08:27 |
| DocScrutinizer | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/zImage-2.6.32.39-dfl61-20113701 | 08:28 |
| Sazpaimon | mypaint is probably bad because im using the extras-devel version | 08:29 |
| Sazpaimon | which is probably buggy | 08:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | which should be exactly your kernel (and uname) and thus match the existing modules | 08:29 |
| Sazpaimon | DocScrutinizer, does opensh work yet | 08:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | no | 08:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | proven to fail as soon as you enter secure mode again | 08:30 |
| interiorcrocodil | thanks DocScrutinizer | 08:30 |
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| MohammadAG | So, has anyone mentioned whether the open mode kernel doesn't break stock apps? | 12:28 |
| MohammadAG | Meh, new Qt doc layout sucks | 12:29 |
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| MohammadAG | You can't see all methods of a class (including those inherited), probably due to site designers not giving a crap about QWidgets anymore | 12:30 |
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| trx | that sucks | 12:31 |
| leinir | MohammadAG: Have you told them? They take feedback, you know... in particular one of them, who's a personal friend, knows what a LART is ;) | 12:32 |
| xarcass | MohammadAG: feel free to file a bug: I've had similar problem in creator, wrote a report and they've fixed it. | 12:32 |
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| MohammadAG | I'm talking about the site xarcass | 12:33 |
| MohammadAG | leinir: I'll see about that, in Uni now | 12:33 |
| xarcass | MohammadAG: yeah, i see. my point was that they likely will fix it if you would have reported the problem | 12:34 |
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| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: ping | 12:49 |
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| MohammadAG | ZogG_laptop: Pong | 13:21 |
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| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: do you port facebook client to n950? | 13:25 |
| MohammadAG | Yes | 13:27 |
| MohammadAG | Only part left for 0.1 is the profile page and commenting sheet | 13:28 |
| jonni | blaah, have anyone else runned into following error: QNetworkReplyImpl::_q_startOperation was called more than once | 13:28 |
| MohammadAG | It's a warning | 13:28 |
| MohammadAG | Happens on Fremantle and harmattan, ignore it | 13:29 |
| jonni | ohwell might be warning, but looks like that I'm not getting reply from http server... | 13:29 |
| jonni | ohwell maybe I'm just having other issues then | 13:29 |
| MohammadAG | Connected the signal? | 13:29 |
| jonni | QObject::connect(nam, SIGNAL(finished(QNetworkReply*)), this, SLOT(finishedSlot(QNetworkReply*))); // finished slot seems never happen | 13:31 |
| jonni | from server side I can see that GET query does reach the apache server just fine. | 13:31 |
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| MohammadAG | Hmm, weird | 13:34 |
| MohammadAG | I connect the reply itself but that shouldn't matter | 13:34 |
| MohammadAG | Paste your code? | 13:34 |
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| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: did you use oauth if yes do you use meego's one? | 13:38 |
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| MohammadAG | Meego's what? | 13:42 |
| MohammadAG | OAuth needs a web browser | 13:42 |
| MohammadAG | So I just use a QGraphicsWebView | 13:42 |
| MohammadAG | Whats the meego thing you mentioned though? | 13:43 |
| gri | oauth2 does not need a webview | 13:43 |
| MohammadAG | Hmm! | 13:43 |
| MohammadAG | ?* | 13:43 |
| alterego | Teeheehee: http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s720x720/398579_10150420554306078_666721077_8670845_496297109_n.jpg | 13:44 |
| MohammadAG | Wasn't that XAuth? | 13:44 |
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| gri | MohammadAG: https://gitorious.org/accounts-sso/signon-oauth2/blobs/master/example/oauthclient.cpp | 13:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: i'm trying to understand how it works rithg now | 13:44 |
| jonni | MohammadAG: very basic test basicly copypasted from qt examples: http://pastebin.com/j5nrSAAh | 13:44 |
| thresher | sorry.. just checking... is it normal to have to simply flash the open kernel.for.the 950 and provide the ape for n9 to get a perfectly de aegised n9... they might as well have made it easier dor tj | 13:45 |
| thresher | easuer for customers than devs... running the 20.4.whichever firm off navifirm | 13:46 |
| MohammadAG | What the... | 13:46 |
| ZogG_laptop | gri btw in that example they included oauth2data.h wich are local ,but isn't it art of lib? | 13:46 |
| MohammadAG | gri: So that uses the built in fb login sheet, | 13:46 |
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| MohammadAG | ?+ | 13:46 |
| gri | MohammadAG: could be, the mechanism decides what you see | 13:47 |
| MohammadAG | So basically I can't use my own Uo | 13:47 |
| MohammadAG | UI ffs | 13:47 |
| gri | ZogG_laptop: that file should be somewhere in your sdk, if not I bet you can get it from scratchbox - but you can also access all the values from the SignOn::SessionData object, you just have to use the string values then | 13:49 |
| gri | MohammadAG: well the purpose of the plugin is to let the system do the authentication, so there's now custom ui I assume, yes | 13:49 |
| gri | now = no | 13:49 |
| MohammadAG | gri: So this is harmattan specific? | 13:50 |
| gri | MohammadAG: yes, but I don't know if they included it in meego ce | 13:51 |
| MohammadAG | Not that it matters | 13:51 |
| gri | as far as I know it's being ported to ubuntu, too | 13:53 |
| MohammadAG | So how does it work? | 13:53 |
| Jaffa | alterego: Woohoo! And, was the N9 one of the "Welcome Gift" choices? If so, hopefully it'll still be there next year :-) | 13:53 |
| alterego | Jaffa: it was a welcome gift yeah :) | 13:53 |
| MohammadAG | Invisible browser? | 13:54 |
| gri | MohammadAG: I did not try it for oauth | 13:54 |
| gri | compile the example code and try it :) | 13:54 |
| MohammadAG | alterego: Congrats :) | 13:54 |
| alterego | Jaffa: I've actually just put the cyan sleeve on my black N9, but I still feel more colourful :) | 13:54 |
| MohammadAG | Hmm | 13:54 |
| MohammadAG | I have to provide my secret key | 13:54 |
| alterego | Jaffa: and the welcome gift is the 16G model. But still, will make a good target for Mer | 13:55 |
| gri | MohammadAG: why? this is yours | 13:55 |
| ZogG_laptop | gri: MohammadAG and what about qml oauth module? | 13:55 |
| MohammadAG | I don't use WML | 13:55 |
| MohammadAG | QML* | 13:55 |
| gri | ZogG_laptop: don't know of such a thing. If you want to do your auth from qml, you have to use the webview. Or build a c++ class that does the auth | 13:56 |
| alterego | MohammadAG: isn't good enough for QML yet :P | 13:56 |
| MohammadAG | QML isn't good enough for me | 13:56 |
| ZogG_laptop | gri: webview | 13:56 |
| MohammadAG | alterego: compiled > interpreted | 13:56 |
| alterego | Actually there's very little performance issue with QML when used as intended. | 13:57 |
| MohammadAG | iOS UIKit > Android Dalvik | 13:57 |
| alterego | If you start using JS for stupid calculations then .. Well .. | 13:57 |
| ZogG_laptop | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/QML_OAuth | 13:57 |
| MohammadAG | alterego: Yeah. It takes 5s to start an app | 13:57 |
| MohammadAG | Whereas with mtf you get 1s startip | 13:58 |
| alterego | Probably it building the scene. | 13:58 |
| alterego | I can't argue with you there ;) | 13:58 |
| MohammadAG | So fix slow startup and I might consider it | 13:59 |
| gri | the startup is slow, yes - that's the biggest problem of my app | 13:59 |
| MohammadAG | But still I prefer C++ | 13:59 |
| MohammadAG | gri: In mtf it'd start immediately | 14:00 |
| * gri learned to like qml since it forces you to write better code (core and gui separation) | 14:00 | |
| MohammadAG | I do that with MTG | 14:00 |
| MohammadAG | MTF | 14:00 |
| Jaffa | alterego: The sleeve on my brother's new Lumia800 interferes with the device too much - even though it's a very nice case. | 14:01 |
| Jaffa | alterego: So I'm glad I haven't got the blue one to put on my N9. I'll get a blue Luna headset instead | 14:01 |
| gri | MohammadAG: you can do that with everything but when mixing qml and c++ you can't even do it other than that :) | 14:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | MDeclarativeCache: No such file or directory wyf | 14:07 |
| ZogG_laptop | i have it second time, and ii don't remember how i fxed it first time | 14:08 |
| alterego | Jaffa: how so? It has an extra hole for the button but looks mostly the same? | 14:08 |
| alterego | I haven't tried putting the lumia case on an N9 though | 14:08 |
| gri | ZogG_laptop: add | 14:08 |
| gri | PKGCONFIG += qdeclarative-boostable | 14:08 |
| alterego | Jaffa: one interesting thing, the welcome gift N9 package is different to the one I bought, it has the same headset + remote as my N8 did, where as the one I bought only has a single button headset .. | 14:09 |
| alterego | The N9 sales package also has more cardboard boxes inside for manuals unlike my purchased N9 . | 14:10 |
| Jaffa | alterego: I meant he's got the sleeve on his Lumia800 and I don't like it in practice | 14:10 |
| alterego | Oh, you just don't like the sleeves? | 14:11 |
| gri | the rubber condom looks cheap (on the n9) | 14:19 |
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| alterego | Well, after I dropped my N9 a couple of weeks ago, I kinda want the added protection ;) | 14:23 |
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| MohammadAG | Dropped? | 14:26 |
| * MohammadAG cringes | 14:26 | |
| ZogG_laptop | gri i had it, commented compiled uncommented compiled and now it's just fine, wieeerd | 14:28 |
| alterego | Yeah, took a small graze in the lower left corner :( | 14:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | alterego: buy the glue than and stick it to your hand =) | 14:32 |
| gri | I never dropped any of my phones but my girlfriend regularly drops my phones on the ground ... | 14:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | gri: drop the gf than =) | 14:32 |
| alterego | Heh | 14:33 |
| gri | ZogG_laptop: if I drop her, I need to move out of here :( | 14:34 |
| gri | and also learn how to cook :) | 14:35 |
| jonni | blaah, looks like that Im better of calling wget with system(), than using QNetworkRequest which just fails | 14:35 |
| gri | jonni: why does it fail? never had an issue with it | 14:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | cook better than any of my gfs i ever had =) | 14:35 |
| jonni | tried to connect to reply too, but nothing just happens | 14:35 |
| ZogG_laptop | gri can you help me understand that example they gave for oauth? | 14:36 |
| gri | jonni: you have the paste code somewhere? | 14:36 |
| jonni | gri: finished signal seems just never happen | 14:36 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: what are you trying to do? | 14:36 |
| jonni | gri | 14:36 |
| gri | jonni: very strange since that should even come on errors | 14:36 |
| jonni | http://pastebin.com/j5nrSAAh | 14:36 |
| jonni | Im just trying to get string returned from url, but maybe Im doing something wrong :) | 14:37 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: i just did it with my app, wanna see my code? | 14:38 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: sure, if you have example somewhere | 14:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | actually i took it from somebodies example and modified it | 14:38 |
| gri | jonni: it looks correct ... | 14:38 |
| gri | ZogG_laptop: there's not much to understand about the oauth thingy but I can try the example on my phone to verify it working | 14:39 |
| jonni | gri: atleast server side apache logs looks ok, GET request etc comes, but nothing seems to arrive to device | 14:39 |
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| ZogG_laptop | jonni: but it's with post, though i think it's the same | 14:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | http://pastebin.com/rL4qHkr7 | 14:41 |
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| ZogG_laptop | gri: as i understand they have already token, but i don't have one, and it uses oauth while my service supports only oauth1 | 14:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: but what are you trying to get back? | 14:43 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: well basicly a string, or html page, or just one number | 14:44 |
| jonni | heh, would be happy to get back anything at all | 14:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: i used response to read all and than parsed what i need | 14:44 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: anyway look into my example it may help you | 14:44 |
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| jonni | problem in my case is that finished signal never seems to be triggered | 14:45 |
| jonni | so pretty hard to read anything when I dont get any response | 14:45 |
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| gri | you can also connect the the finished() slot of the reply itself but that should not make any difference | 14:46 |
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| gri | I do nothing different in my code and it works: https://gitorious.org/web2sms/web2sms/blobs/master/qmlplugin/messagehandler.cpp#line230 | 14:46 |
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| jonni | gri: yep tried to connect finished() of the reply, but that was never triggered either | 14:47 |
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| gri | wow, irc servers gone crazy :) | 14:47 |
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| gri | ZogG_laptop: in the plugin code itself you can see which values to fill for oauth1 | 14:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | gri the main problem of example is that it already has token as like i authorize with it, but i need to request one at first as i understand | 14:48 |
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| gri | ZogG_laptop: https://gitorious.org/accounts-sso/signon-oauth2/blobs/master/src/oauth2plugin.cpp#line210 | 14:50 |
| gri | and line 247 | 14:50 |
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| Appiah | hmm I thought there was some limited java support on N950/N9 , but there is none at all? | 14:56 |
| RST38h | no | 14:56 |
| Appiah | no...? | 14:57 |
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| ZogG_laptop | gri but what is captcha url? | 15:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | is it pin? | 15:01 |
| ZogG_laptop | or is it oauth/.... | 15:02 |
| gri | I haven't seen any captcha with oauth yet | 15:02 |
| gri | but I also did not use so many services :) | 15:02 |
| ZogG_laptop | void OAuth2Plugin::sendOAuth1AuthRequest(const QString &captchaUrl) | 15:02 |
| gri | it seems this can be empty | 15:03 |
| gri | search for the usage of sendOAuth1AuthRequest | 15:03 |
| gri | it's called without that parameter | 15:03 |
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| ZogG_laptop | too hard for me to understand it straight | 15:09 |
| gri | just ignore that parameter | 15:10 |
| ZogG_laptop | yeah but i want to understand how i pass the nickname and so on | 15:11 |
| gri | oauth does not need a nickname? | 15:12 |
| gri | https://gitorious.org/accounts-sso/signon-oauth2/blobs/master/src/oauth1data.h UserName can be set | 15:13 |
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| jonni | blaah no error messages anywhere, so I guess I just call wget from my code.... | 15:24 |
| gri | wget is not available without developer mode | 15:25 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, you have an iOS device, download Edge (game on app store) and see if you can make a similar game for Harmattan :) | 16:01 |
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| jonni | gri: wget is available if I just add depends: wget to my deb file :) | 16:11 |
| ZogG_laptop | so it canWould like to see this feature as well! Of course i could wait for some 3rd | 16:11 |
| ZogG_laptop | party app, but you know what: I don't buy a Mercedes and then also a BMW just | 16:11 |
| ZogG_laptop | for moving the seats from the BMW into the Mercedes because it came without | 16:11 |
| ZogG_laptop | seats | 16:11 |
| ZogG_laptop | nice quote on some not planned baisc features on harmattan =) | 16:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: not after thp finishes tap tap revange =) | 16:13 |
| thp | MohammadAG: funky game | 16:15 |
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| MohammadAG | thp, FYI, it's free only for today :P | 16:15 |
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| thp | yep, just DLed today. the ipod is more of a gaming machine + website testing device these days, anyway ;) | 16:16 |
| MohammadAG | thp, and speaking of free games, asphalt 6 is free but that's off topic :P | 16:17 |
| MohammadAG | I need mine for WhatsApp and Viber | 16:17 |
| MohammadAG | till I get people to start converting anyways | 16:17 |
| thp | ZogG_laptop: well the taptap prototype code is open ;) so grab it and start hacking | 16:21 |
| hiemanshu | MohammadAG: there is also eBuddy XMS which is available for the N9 | 16:23 |
| MohammadAG | hiemanshu, yeah, already have it | 16:24 |
| artemma | XMS for N9 is just for text messages for now | 16:24 |
| jreznik | what's so special on whatsapp when we finally have jabber? | 16:24 |
| MohammadAG | <3 open mode | 16:24 |
| artemma | more or less just lke yet another messaging net | 16:24 |
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| artemma | jreznik: what's special about WhatsApp is marketing :D | 16:24 |
| artemma | people don't buy jabber if nobody sells it | 16:25 |
| artemma | except for geeks certainly | 16:25 |
| hiemanshu | MohammadAG: well I am waiting for the Lumia now, WhatsApp on it looks awesome | 16:25 |
| MohammadAG | err, shit /usr/bin/sociality-mtf: Operation not permitted | 16:25 |
| ZogG_laptop | thp: i'm too nobie =) | 16:27 |
| ZogG_laptop | noobie | 16:27 |
| ZogG_laptop | jreznik: the special that you don't need to add anyone and register username, it's outof box | 16:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | gri: oh dear gri | 16:29 |
| ZogG_laptop | gri: it's wierd as when i compile it with #include "oauth2data.h" it's fine, while with "oauth1data.h" it's not | 16:30 |
| jreznik | ZogG_laptop: uf, should try it somewhere, don't understand it at all :) | 16:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | says it can't find it | 16:30 |
| ZogG_laptop | jreznik: the point there that you don't need to request anything to add friends, it registers to your number and than it adds people from contact list by number, simple as it | 16:31 |
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| corecode | hi | 16:35 |
| corecode | what's up with these libpurple-based IM accounts? | 16:36 |
| jreznik | ZogG_laptop: so useless on fremantle/harmattan where you have all contacts in one contact app, could be interesting on other platforms maybe | 16:36 |
| alterego | Nice, good news about the first Qt app being accepted to the Apple app store. | 16:37 |
| ZogG_laptop | jreznik: you are so wrong as do you have friends with other phones? | 16:37 |
| ZogG_laptop | jreznik: would you bother to ask everyone to download jabber client and register it? | 16:37 |
| ZogG_laptop | adn than ask one by one what are username and to approve you? | 16:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | jreznik: jabber is good when u use jabber on computer and it's just mobile | 16:38 |
| ZogG_laptop | the mobile communication should be planned different | 16:39 |
| CissWit | there's SMS and MMS to IM with contacts. | 16:39 |
| jreznik | ZogG_laptop: yep, I said - on other platforms maybe, but every phone now have some fb chat (jabber) client - much more easier and all friends there... I don't know anyone using this whatsup/ebuddy clients but 90% of my friends are usually online on fb chat for example | 16:39 |
| ZogG_laptop | jreznik: you would be surprised if you install it and find that most of friends do have whatsapp on iphones | 16:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | you don't need to log in on facebook to use it as well | 16:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | it's just like sms | 16:40 |
| CissWit | yes, what's the point over sms ? | 16:40 |
| ZogG_laptop | CissWit: sms and mms cost money and whatsapp have more features | 16:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | simple as it | 16:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | i have enuf internet plan for whatsapp | 16:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | i used to send msg to gf every minute and don't bother to make them even word by word while sms cost me a lot | 16:42 |
| jreznik | ZogG_laptop: don't want to argue here :) just still don't understand it and iphones are not very populat here so... | 16:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | jreznik: it's on android and bb too | 16:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | even not that in computers people use it | 16:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | that's the point | 16:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | here everyone use it | 16:42 |
| ZogG_laptop | gri: still here? | 16:43 |
| jreznik | here no one, but everyone is on fb chat online :) so I understand you know, it's useless when you have no friends using such network (for me), for you it makes sense | 16:43 |
| CissWit | i have a lot of friends using whatsapp, but they are all using gtalk in the same time. | 16:44 |
| CissWit | and having unlimited sms | 16:44 |
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| corecode | http://harmattan-bugs.nokia.com/show_bug.cgi?id=129#c8 <- any idea what post don is refering to? | 16:52 |
| gri | ZogG_laptop: nope, was not here | 16:55 |
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| ZogG_laptop | gri i have no idea if it works =) | 17:03 |
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| ZogG_laptop | it complies for sure but not sure if i did it right as i send request, what should i do next? like in oauth there is pin or something | 17:04 |
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| jonni | blaah creator doesnt like me, even qml console.log doesnt work, or do I need to do some magic to enable it | 17:27 |
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| jonni | ah nevermind someone has managed to break it on N9 :) | 17:47 |
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| ZogG_laptop | damn | 17:48 |
| ZogG_laptop | got out coz battery is finished | 17:48 |
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| MohammadAG | the fuck ~ $ ./oauthclient | 18:04 |
| MohammadAG | -sh: ./oauthclient: Operation not permitted | 18:04 |
| MohammadAG | ~ $ | 18:04 |
| infobot | from memory, $ is a dollar sign | 18:04 |
| MohammadAG | I have --relaxed-exec | 18:04 |
| alterego | Hahah | 18:05 |
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| MohammadAG | I think DBus or something is borked | 18:08 |
| MohammadAG | some poinstinst isn't returning | 18:08 |
| ZogG_laptop | MohammadAG: are you trying to use that oauth from meego? | 18:14 |
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| jonni | ah managed to get console.log after I installed my own msghandler | 18:22 |
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| Corsac | ~aegis-no-thanks | 18:44 |
| infobot | aegis-no-thanks is probably http://maemo.cloud-7.de/HARM/N9/openmode_kernel_PR1.1/ | 18:44 |
| faenil | guys what can I check when I get "module "..." is not installed" in qml? | 18:45 |
| faenil | who's causing the error? | 18:45 |
| hiemanshu | faenil: most likely the imports are missing or the version number isnt correct | 18:47 |
| hiemanshu | faenil: is it with qt components or your own module? | 18:48 |
| faenil | own module | 18:48 |
| faenil | qt components for android actually :) | 18:48 |
| faenil | made by a guy ;) | 18:48 |
| hiemanshu | ah, interesting | 18:48 |
| hiemanshu | its most likely looking at the wrong place or something | 18:48 |
| faenil | if you have 2 mins, this is what he writes | 18:49 |
| faenil | http://groups.google.com/group/android-qt/browse_thread/thread/8a8dad69042a28af | 18:49 |
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| faenil | maybe they're not compatible with Honeycomb? | 19:00 |
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| artemma | Quick question: can somebody confirm that handling streamed audio in Qt for Harmattan is Ok and works fine? No very well known weird bugs? I think I've heard of huge delay when starting to play music in QML, but that's ok if using QML just to ask C++ side to start playback, correct? | 20:33 |
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| jpwhitin` | hey all, I've got a weird question that I've seen on forums also, but no solution other than 'reinstall the sdk' | 20:45 |
| jpwhitin` | I have a project that works fine on N9 device itself, but if I add a simulator device in creator and try to run in the simulator it gives me an error about Qemu | 20:46 |
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| jpwhitin` | ah, nm, had to create a new target besides harmattan (Qt simulator) not just add an emulated device | 20:56 |
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| ZogG_laptop | ~seen mardy | 21:16 |
| infobot | mardy is currently on #harmattan #meego, last said: 'djszapi: yes it should be like that'. | 21:16 |
| ZogG_laptop | hmm | 21:16 |
| ZogG_laptop | mardy i would like to have some help with oauth on meego | 21:16 |
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| M4rtinK | anyone porting unrar to Harmattan ? :) | 21:21 |
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| ZogG_laptop | you are now | 21:34 |
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| mardy | ZogG_laptop: hi! | 22:18 |
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| Appiah | :D | 22:18 |
| mardy | ZogG_laptop: please tell me, maybe I can help | 22:20 |
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| M4rtinK | RzR: I have a few new packages if you are interested :) | 23:02 |
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| RzR | yes I was looking at your dir | 23:07 |
| RzR | is gtk ok ? | 23:07 |
| M4rtinK | not yet, unfortunately | 23:07 |
| RzR | where is the major isssue ? | 23:07 |
| M4rtinK | still the same issue | 23:08 |
| RzR | unpredictable obs ? | 23:08 |
| M4rtinK | basically | 23:08 |
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| RzR | i was looking if i can use iodine | 23:08 |
| RzR | the dns tunnel | 23:08 |
| M4rtinK | in one project it builds in other (including yours :) ) it doesn't | 23:08 |
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| RzR | we can make some test | 23:09 |
| M4rtinK | but I have a few others - Mieru (a manga and comic book reader I wrote) and two unrar packages (free and nonfree) ported from Debian | 23:09 |
| RzR | disable all packages to be used as builddepends | 23:09 |
| RzR | and try to enable them one after one | 23:10 |
| M4rtinK | I pretty much done that and it still failed | 23:10 |
| M4rtinK | I even did a clean repo | 23:10 |
| RzR | is there an exorsist here ? | 23:10 |
| M4rtinK | X-Fade ? | 23:11 |
| M4rtinK | :) | 23:11 |
| RzR | btw i see that libsdl in nokia repo | 23:14 |
| M4rtinK | well that's quite nice :) | 23:14 |
| RzR | were u able to test a real gtk app ? | 23:15 |
| RzR | we should also port ELF too lol | 23:15 |
| M4rtinK | my GTK based GPS navigation system (modRana) runs fine | 23:15 |
| M4rtinK | quite a bit faster than on the N900 :) | 23:15 |
| M4rtinK | thanks to the custom Cairo drawn UI | 23:16 |
| M4rtinK | but all GTK widgets are unskinned | 23:16 |
| RzR | cool | 23:16 |
| M4rtinK | and virtual keyboard is not triggered | 23:16 |
| Sazpaimon_ | dont default qt apps have the same issue wuth unskinned elements? | 23:17 |
| M4rtinK | which is quite a showstopper for the N9 | 23:17 |
| Sazpaimon_ | i installed a regular qt app from debian, and it appeared unskinned for me | 23:17 |
| Sazpaimon_ | vkb worked though | 23:17 |
| RzR | I built the tea qt editor | 23:18 |
| RzR | but forget using menu based apps | 23:18 |
| Sazpaimon_ | thats a shame it cant be more like hildon | 23:19 |
| Sazpaimon_ | which seamlessly integrates menus | 23:19 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, for all interested, this is the repo with the working GTK libbs for Harmattan: http://repo.pub.meego.com//home:/MartinK:/gtk/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/ | 23:19 |
| M4rtinK | well, for average values of working, as mentioned earlier :) | 23:19 |
| Sazpaimon_ | RzR, still waiting for a fixed rdesktop with vkb support :( | 23:20 |
| Sazpaimon_ | why oh why have you forsaken me | 23:20 |
| RzR | rdesktop is pretty stuck i think | 23:20 |
| RzR | win8 is not supported | 23:20 |
| M4rtinK | once we have a stable GTK build, we can start porting Hildon :) | 23:20 |
| Sazpaimon_ | RzR, freerdp, then | 23:20 |
| RzR | yes that one is much active | 23:20 |
| Sazpaimon_ | rdesktop has been dead for quite some time | 23:20 |
| Sazpaimon_ | im not sure why maemo has it | 23:20 |
| RzR | but i was able to connect to win8 | 23:21 |
| Sazpaimon_ | freerdp is so much better | 23:21 |
| Sazpaimon_ | and i think it supports pulseaudio | 23:21 |
| Sazpaimon_ | so we could have audio redirection with it | 23:21 |
| RzR | i suppose there are vkb apps that dont use qt | 23:22 |
| RzR | there are no .. | 23:22 |
| Sazpaimon_ | i doubt it | 23:22 |
| Sazpaimon_ | for something like rdesktop, the vkb would need to be implemented in the app itself | 23:23 |
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| Sazpaimon_ | something like how symrdp works | 23:23 |
| alterego | Not entirely true | 23:23 |
| alterego | The VKB is Maliit | 23:23 |
| alterego | Look in to it. | 23:23 |
| M4rtinK | IIRC a recent CloudGPS release added a configurable custom VKB | 23:24 |
| M4rtinK | (it is SDL based) | 23:24 |
| RzR | i could link w/ qt too | 23:24 |
| RzR | puae uses boths too | 23:25 |
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| ZogG_laptop | mardy still around? | 23:45 |
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