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| MohammadAG | Gof 2 is sexy on the iphone and ipad | 00:07 |
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| augustl | mgedmin: ah, I'll try that | 00:14 |
| mgedmin | what's overleveling? | 00:14 |
| mgedmin | augustl, if it does turn out to be messageserver, disable mail checking (or reduce mail checking frequency, although mine was already "every 20 mins" so maybe this won't work), that seems to help | 00:15 |
| ajalkane | I'm liking Gof 2 more on N9/N950 than on the iDevices. | 00:17 |
| SpeedEvil | mgedmin: getting to too high a level, so instead of facing 5-6 enemies, you get a swarm of 25. | 00:18 |
| mgedmin | hmm | 00:18 |
| mgedmin | sounds like fun :) | 00:18 |
| SpeedEvil | This can be nonsurvivable, even in the best ship, with the custom armour, railguns, shield, ... | 00:18 |
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| ajalkane | I did a Google search on "Is galaxy on fire 2 better than Elite", but the results were not conclusive | 00:40 |
| SpeedEvil | It has better graphics. | 00:40 |
| SpeedEvil | Gameplay - not. | 00:40 |
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| Sput | Elite gameplay is still unmatched | 00:49 |
| SpeedEvil | Also - the version of GOF2 is quite old. | 00:49 |
| SpeedEvil | Newer versions with more features and stuff exist. | 00:49 |
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| RzR | anyone has a ssh to his n950 ? | 01:28 |
| RzR | can you please | 01:28 |
| RzR | dmesg | grep -i cpu | 01:28 |
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| zk8 | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9887743/evopedia_0.4.3-1.tar.gz | 01:35 |
| zk8 | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9887743/evopedia_0.4.3-1_armel.deb | 01:36 |
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| JackaLX | Hey Folks! Since updating my N9 to PR1.1 I've noticed that /usr/bin/messageserver is keeping the CPU running flat out (99% as seen from top). Obviously that is draining my battery pretty fast (6 or 7 hours total battery life when idle). Is this a known issue? Or, better, is there a fix? | 04:15 |
| JackaLX | Even with all accounts disabled it is still using 99% CPU | 04:16 |
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| GeneralAntilles | JackaLX, not heard of it. | 04:31 |
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| JackaLX | GeneralAntilles: OK, I'll keep digging and see if I can isolate it to something specific. | 04:39 |
| GeneralAntilles | JackaLX, I might check the forums. | 04:39 |
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| Sazpaimon | oh good | 04:57 |
| Sazpaimon | I dont need to manually compile the new meego-terminal after all | 04:57 |
| Sazpaimon | my device just got it today | 04:57 |
| Sazpaimon | now meego-terminal is perfect | 04:57 |
| Sazpaimon | thats pretty good turnaround time, only about a day or so | 04:58 |
| JackaLX | GeneralAntilles: There was something on TMO related to batt drain. Though that was from PR1.0. A couple of clues in it. Looks like possibly a synchng issue and I think I may have cleared it. | 05:09 |
| JackaLX | I disabled all accounts, then rebooted, then re-enabled one by one and turned off all auto-synching/scheduling. | 05:09 |
| JackaLX | I'll watch it for a day or two and see how it goes. | 05:09 |
| JackaLX | My thoughts are that something was screwed up some place in settings db and an auto-synch couldn't complete and never gave up trying. | 05:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | LOL, MrCrab fw-download site mutated to a mp3 download site | 05:21 |
| JackaLX | Sazpaimon: is meego-terminal the default terminal you get with dev-mode, or is it something else? | 05:50 |
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| trupheenix | hi i got a doubt. can i run both Qt SDK and Harmattan Platform SDK on the same system to do Harmattan development? | 07:25 |
| iekku | morning | 07:43 |
| jonni | trupheenix: yes you can | 07:56 |
| trupheenix | jonni, ok | 07:57 |
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| qronic | How to read /proc/kmsg? It says "Operation not permitted" for develsh and devel-su | 08:23 |
| psycho_oreos | syslog? | 08:23 |
| qronic | Is the output the same? I'm looking into kernel stack dump after reboot | 08:24 |
| jonni | qronic: dmesg | 08:26 |
| qronic | jonni, doesn't dmesg shows output _after_ the boot? Cause I want to see the logs of the kernel oops | 08:27 |
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| qronic | on android there's /proc/last_kmsg doing that | 08:28 |
| jonni | qronic: /proc/kmsg only shows stuff beginning of 0.0000 seconds | 08:29 |
| jonni | (reading of that file is possible after you install develsh as com.nokia.maemo), so output is the same as dmesg | 08:30 |
| qronic | I see, thanks | 08:30 |
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| qronic | jonni, any idea how to make kernel to save oops state into some file? | 08:30 |
| qronic | maybe some syslog magic | 08:30 |
| dm8tbr | qronic: is that your own kernel? | 08:31 |
| qronic | no, it's an original N9 PR1.1 | 08:31 |
| dm8tbr | most likely no chance | 08:32 |
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| dm8tbr | you'd probably need a jig with serial output AND also RND certs to enable pin-mux of UART | 08:33 |
| qronic | too hard :) especialy on N9, no luck then | 08:36 |
| dm8tbr | on a custom kernel you could probably add support for things like last_kmesg | 08:37 |
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| jonni | I usually just use serial console on n950, but on N9 things are a bit more hard, one could use custom kernel, or just com.nokia.com develsh and tail -f /proc/kmsg > /root/last_kmsg | 08:40 |
| jonni | com.nokia.maemo even | 08:42 |
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| Kaadlajk | qronic: there is package called sp-oops-extract | 08:47 |
| Kaadlajk | sp-oops-extract - A tool to display OOPS/panic logs from MTD partition | 08:47 |
| Kaadlajk | didnt read backlog so no idea if that is what you need :P | 08:48 |
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| qronic | Kaadlajk, maybe it will help, though it seems like it's for maemo5 | 08:48 |
| Kaadlajk | it works for harmattan too | 08:48 |
| Kaadlajk | we use it internally | 08:49 |
| qronic | do you have it? What' the latest version? 0.0.7? | 08:49 |
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| Kaadlajk | 0.1.0 should be latest | 08:50 |
| qronic | found it, thanks | 08:50 |
| qronic | though, seems like it was deleted | 08:51 |
| qronic | it wa here: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta/free/s/sp-oops-extract/sp-oops-extract_0.1.0+0m6.dsc | 08:51 |
| qronic | but now, beta is deleted, and it's not in beta3 and beta2 | 08:51 |
| qronic | I will have to email Maintainer: Eero Tamminen probably | 08:54 |
| Kaadlajk | he will know | 08:56 |
| qronic | Kaadlajk, thank you | 08:58 |
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| jonni | most likely it was in beta1 by mistake and considered as internal tool | 09:03 |
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| Kaadlajk | it should be opensource | 09:03 |
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| jonni | or put it this way, its not shipped in default pr1.0&pr1.1 firmware, so it doesnt need to be in repoes | 09:06 |
| Kaadlajk | :-) | 09:06 |
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| jonni | or you can just use fremantle sources, since afaik format has not changed | 09:10 |
| qronic | yeah, I'll into it if couldn't get the 0.1.0 for maemo6 | 09:14 |
| jonni | just reading git log from 0.0.7-1 vs 0.1.0, there one commit that added support for large block sizes, so you are out of luck with fremantle version, since it doesnt handle harmattan block sizes. | 09:23 |
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| razvanpetru | hey, anyone seen Labels inside ListView that wouldn't respect their color? | 13:19 |
| razvanpetru | basically, I have a complicated delegate that has a bunch of labels... | 13:22 |
| razvanpetru | I set the top label's color and only the first item in the list gets the color, the rest are black | 13:22 |
| razvanpetru | outrageous! :) | 13:23 |
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| Jare_ | mc-tool is giving me empty output when run automatically from a script, but if i run the script manually it'll work as expected. What could be the problem here? | 14:17 |
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| deram | maybe some environment is not set correctly when running automatically... try running manually with "env -i" in front of the command, and see if it runs or complains something | 14:22 |
| Jare_ | ~ $ env -i /usr/bin/mc-tool list | 14:26 |
| Jare_ | mc-tool list: Failed to connect to D-Bus: Using X11 for dbus-daemon autolaunch was disabled at compile time, set your DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS instead | 14:26 |
| deram | hmm.. it at least needs DISPLAY to be set... | 14:27 |
| deram | or that DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS | 14:28 |
| Jare_ | this works: "env -i dbus-launch && /usr/bin/mc-tool list" | 14:31 |
| Jare_ | do i also have close the dbus or is it done automatically? | 14:31 |
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| Jare_ | oh, stupid me, of course that works x). I'll try it in the script anyway | 14:41 |
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| razvanpetru | what's the problem with SelectionDialog in pr 1.1? | 15:24 |
| razvanpetru | it says model is undefined... | 15:24 |
| razvanpetru | when looking at the device sources, they're not the same to my sdk ones! | 15:25 |
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| tjaalton | i'm trying to build meego-terminal using the sdk, but it fails importing MApplication | 15:31 |
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| tjaalton | so.. shouldn't it have all the libs that came with the sdk available? | 15:33 |
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| abinader | hi all :) does anyone know how to run fenix on device without detaching console output? | 16:01 |
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| MohammadAG | Think ill be getting the n950 tomorrow | 17:18 |
| SpeedEvil | Good luck! | 17:19 |
| SpeedEvil | It's passed customs? | 17:19 |
| MohammadAG | No, but they asked for an email this time | 17:20 |
| SpeedEvil | ah | 17:20 |
| MohammadAG | Which is sth they did for th n900 and n950 | 17:20 |
| MohammadAG | The first one at least | 17:20 |
| MohammadAG | And the ddp n900 not the first one | 17:20 |
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| b3ll | hey | 17:35 |
| b3ll | I'm having difficulty implementing the fast scrollbar used in the contacts/music apps | 17:37 |
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| rcg1 | b3ll: I assume you are using QML | 17:39 |
| b3ll | I'm implementing a sectionscroller, but instead of the harmattan magnified-style scrolling, I'm getting this non-native black panel, like this : http://ruedigergad.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/sectionscroller.png | 17:39 |
| rcg1 | + SectionScroller | 17:39 |
| b3ll | rcg1: yeah qml, sorry I didn't mention that | 17:39 |
| rcg1 | afaik that's what the stock QML SectionScroller looks like | 17:40 |
| rcg1 | i think there was some project to bring the look and feel of e.g. the contacts scroller to QML | 17:40 |
| b3ll | that's only available with c++? | 17:40 |
| rcg1 | http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4600&highlight=SectionScroller | 17:40 |
| rcg1 | that's a guide on how to make a QML SectionScroller look like the one that can be found in the contacts app | 17:41 |
| b3ll | yeah I saw that one, wasn't sure if I was using the 'right' stock SectionScroller | 17:41 |
| b3ll | okay thanks! | 17:41 |
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| rcg1 | afaik the contacts app uses mtf.. meego touch framework iirc | 17:41 |
| rcg1 | which is c++ iirc | 17:42 |
| rcg1 | or c? dunno exactly | 17:42 |
| b3ll | yeah c++ | 17:42 |
| b3ll | I'll give it a go, if it doesn't work out I'll use c++ | 17:44 |
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| b3ll | rcg1 : for future reference, it works quite nicely, thanks! | 17:50 |
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| rcg1 | yw :) maybe it's worth to drop ph5 a feedback in the thread | 17:57 |
| b3ll | oh I will be for sure! | 17:58 |
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| tomyri | why aegis doesn't grant mce::TKLockControl credential policy to my application? | 20:08 |
| tomyri | it just says "denied 'mce::TKLockControl' -- origin '' does not allow it" | 20:08 |
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| SpeedEvil | Origins have different capability lists that tehy can be granted. This varies from 'self-signed' ones, ovi store, and nokia. | 20:11 |
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| SpeedEvil | I don't off-hand know about mce::tklock | 20:12 |
| jonni | tomyri: you need to sign deb package with com.nokia.maemo pgp key to get it working | 20:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | bwahaha | 20:12 |
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| DocScrutinizer | look how confortly paegis is protecting us from possible threats | 20:13 |
| tomyri | jonni: ok, nice | 20:14 |
| jonni | DocScrutinizer: I've installed my selfsigned PGP keys as com.nokia.maemo origin, so would be no problems in my N9, but yes, no way to get it on ovi store. | 20:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | jonni: evil hax0r! XD | 20:17 |
| jonni | anyways normal apps shouldnt even need that credential, or atleast I dont see any usecase | 20:19 |
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| tomyri | so what I should use to block screensaver? | 20:21 |
| jonni | so you want to change screensaver not to appear? | 20:21 |
| tomyri | yes | 20:22 |
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| jonni | tomyri: I usually run this small script from my old usual scripts dir, turns display as bright as it can be and puts timeouts to be a few years :) http://pastebin.com/np1N8CG4 | 20:24 |
| jonni | great for developing since dont have to worry about screensavers | 20:25 |
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| jonni | but should not really be used in applications :) | 20:28 |
| tomyri | :) | 20:28 |
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| JackaLX | I tried (very unsuccessfully) to edit /etc/init/ssh.conf on my N9 to allow root login. Long story, short... aegis has locked me out of my phone. | 20:51 |
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| villager | perhaps you should have edited /etc/ssh/sshd_config | 20:52 |
| JackaLX | well /etc/init/ssh.conf overrides the sshd_config | 20:53 |
| JackaLX | that's why | 20:53 |
| JackaLX | I know I can fix with a re-flash | 20:53 |
| villager | well, editing sshd_config worked fine for me | 20:53 |
| JackaLX | but... I only have a PR1.0 image and it won't let me downgrade (phone was on PR1.1) | 20:53 |
| villager | I haven't locked myself out, so not sure what else you can do than reflash | 20:54 |
| villager | anybody else awake here and knows? | 20:54 |
| JackaLX | The problem I have right now is that I don't have access to any windows machines so can't use navifirm to get the latest image | 20:54 |
| JackaLX | what I need is a place to download the PR1.1 image from a Linux machine | 20:55 |
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| JackaLX | Does anyone know where I can download N9 PR1.1 images from that doesn't require me to be using a windows computer to do so? | 20:57 |
| Guest44539 | use wine in linux | 20:57 |
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| JackaLX | Guest44539: and navifirm works ok through wine? | 20:59 |
| villager | hmm, I should check what firmware I run, maybe the operator's apparently-custom firmware does not have a PR 1.1 version | 20:59 |
| Guest44539 | yes | 21:00 |
| Guest44539 | i am running it right now | 21:00 |
| JackaLX | OK, I'll do that then. Thanks! | 21:00 |
| Guest44539 | thogh u need to install .net2 with winetricks | 21:01 |
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| Sazpaimon_ | i just noticed PR1.1 fixes rotating on the app menu list | 21:39 |
| Sazpaimon_ | if you enable homescreen rotation | 21:39 |
| Sazpaimon_ | on 1.0, app icons would dissapear when you rotate, doesnt happen now | 21:39 |
| JackaLX | yes, I was pleased to see that | 21:39 |
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| Sazpaimon_ | I still cant figure out how to get PR1.1 dev packages | 21:50 |
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| Sazpaimon_ | thankfully the latest meego-terminal builds on PR1.0 now | 21:54 |
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| harbaum | My n950 was acting weird so i decided to reset it to the factory settings from the settings app. Now it not doing more than just displaying a circular arrow to the left. What's that? I can't switch it on nor off, it just sits there with the which arrow on black screen ... | 22:04 |
| harbaum | What does that arrow mean? "Return to nokia" or what? | 22:05 |
| SpeedEvil | Does the arrow rotate when you move the device? Maybe it points to finland. | 22:05 |
| harbaum | :-) | 22:06 |
| harbaum | Will try a one-click-flasher now ... | 22:07 |
| Sazpaimon_ | send to to me, I'm sure I can fix it | 22:07 |
| Sazpaimon_ | ;) | 22:07 |
| harbaum | I can switch it off by pressing the power button for 8 seconds ... and when i switch it on again, it says "Nokia" for a few seconds and then the arrow again .... grrrrrr | 22:12 |
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| jonni | JackaLX: ssh.conf is protected by refhashlist, in PR1.1 you can do following http://sintonen.fi/n9_pr1.1_remote_root_ssh_login.txt | 22:22 |
| kimju | nice workaround. | 22:27 |
| JackaLX | jonni: thanks for that. I'll do that once I get my phone back up and running again | 22:29 |
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| gabriel9 | is there any class for flash(light) on N9 | 22:30 |
| jonni | kimju: second optional workaround is devel-su -c "echo root2:SU.odxvRwp3Vs:0:0:root:/root:/bin/sh >> /etc/passwd" that way you just do ssh root2@192.168.2.15 | 22:32 |
| SpeedEvil | gabriel9: class? | 22:32 |
| gabriel9 | class api | 22:32 |
| gabriel9 | anything | 22:32 |
| SpeedEvil | gabriel9: it's part of video4linux | 22:32 |
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| gabriel9 | dualflash | 22:32 |
| SpeedEvil | It's a control built into the camera API | 22:32 |
| gabriel9 | aha | 22:32 |
| gabriel9 | i was thinking it is in mobility api | 22:32 |
| SpeedEvil | I don't know if it's exposed in any higher layer | 22:33 |
| gabriel9 | i don't have that much time | 22:34 |
| SpeedEvil | There is a flashlight app in ovi | 22:35 |
| gabriel9 | yes i see but i wish to create my own :) | 22:35 |
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| JackaLX | gabriel9: your best bet would probably be to get in contact with that flashlight app author. | 22:40 |
| gabriel9 | if he would like to help | 22:41 |
| ZogG_laptop | hey guys | 22:42 |
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| gabriel9 | hi | 22:43 |
| JackaLX | gabriel9: well, even if he doesn't want to help you code your app, he might at least give you the source to his so you can see how he's done it. :-) | 22:45 |
| gabriel9 | i hope so | 22:45 |
| JackaLX | can't hurt to ask | 22:46 |
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| gabriel9 | i contacted him | 22:47 |
| gabriel9 | i also find this: http://wiki.maemo.org/Documentation/Maemo_5_Developer_Guide/Architecture/Multimedia_Domain#Imaging_subsystem | 22:47 |
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| ZogG_laptop | hmm sdk installation error - exited with code 127 failed to execute ~/QtSDK/Simulator/Application/simulator - registeronly | 22:48 |
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| harbaum | What kind of joke is that? I reflashed the n950 and it still shows this arrow???? | 22:51 |
| Stskeeps | can you photo the arrow? | 22:51 |
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| ZogG_laptop | harbaum: maybe it's in ~/ as some setting? | 22:53 |
| ZogG_laptop | so any idea of SDK installation error? | 22:53 |
| harbaum | A setting that survives a complete reflash of kernel, xloader, roofs and emmc??? | 22:54 |
| gabriel9 | nop | 22:54 |
| gabriel9 | sorry | 22:54 |
| gabriel9 | N9 is really god for texting | 22:54 |
| ZogG_laptop | harbaum: no way =( | 22:55 |
| ZogG_laptop | harbaum: check if it flashed kernel, as i know few had problems with not full flash while update | 22:56 |
| harbaum | The OCF claims that flashing was successful | 22:56 |
| jonni | harbaum: some settings can remain, you need to add --erase-user-data=secure --erase-mmc=secure to ./flasher parameters if you really want to wipe everything | 22:57 |
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| ZogG_laptop | harbaum: how did you got there in first place? i mean how did you get arrow, as well you can try to google how to make arrow visible to reverse it | 22:58 |
| harbaum | The arrow: http://www.harbaum.org/n950_arrow.jpg | 22:59 |
| Stskeeps | uh | 22:59 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, that's new | 22:59 |
| harbaum | The device was acting broken, many program wouldn't launch, i had empty green icons in the launcher without label etc ect ... so i tried to reset it to factory settings | 22:59 |
| ZogG_laptop | i thought you see arrow as mouse arrow | 22:59 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: do a emmc erase too maybe | 23:00 |
| jonni | harbaum: oh, that kind of arrow, have you tried to press powerbutton down for 40seconds untill vibra shakes? :) | 23:00 |
| ZogG_laptop | harbaum: try reflashing again, no other ideas | 23:00 |
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| ZogG_laptop | jonni: what this would do | 23:00 |
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| jonni | ZogG_laptop: just would do a really good reboot ;) | 23:01 |
| jonni | ZogG_laptop: and also helps on flashing issues, as after vibra shake it 1st goes to flashing mode. | 23:02 |
| harbaum | jonni: 40 sec press when on or when off? | 23:03 |
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| jonni | harbaum: it doesnt matter :) | 23:03 |
| jonni | works both ways | 23:03 |
| harbaum | still the Nokia logo for a few seconds then that arrow | 23:04 |
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| harbaum | ./Linux_OCF_39-5_RM680-RM680-OEM1.bin: error - unrecognized option: --erase-user-data=secure | 23:05 |
| jonni | ah then "./flasher --erase-user-data=secure --erase-mmc=secure -f -F firmware.bin -F emmc.bin -R" that should make it like it came out of factory. | 23:06 |
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| harbaum | where to find the flasher? | 23:06 |
| SpeedEvil | I disproved those allegations. | 23:06 |
| SpeedEvil | I was merely checking my coat was fastened when I suffered a wardrobe malfunction. | 23:07 |
| jonni | harbaum: http://tablets-dev.nokia.com/maemo-dev-env-downloads.php | 23:08 |
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| harbaum | jonni: And how do i get the firmware image out of the OCF-Package? | 23:12 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: maybe u can help m with sdk installation btw | 23:13 |
| SpeedEvil | If you interrupt it when it pauses to check for stuff, you find that it's unpacked all the files. | 23:14 |
| JackaLX | OK, so aegis currently has me by the short and curlies and locked me out of my N9 (I get a "Device not working properly") because /etc/init/ssh.conf is messed up (last time I saw it it was zero length). | 23:14 |
| JackaLX | What is going to be the most painless way of fixing that? | 23:14 |
| JackaLX | by "painless" I mean "without losing user data" | 23:15 |
| harbaum | SpeedEvil: Thanks, will try that | 23:15 |
| jonni | JackaLX: "without losing user data" -> boot to Nemo, copy original ssh.conf back to mounted filesystem, and boot back to normal mode | 23:16 |
| gabriel9 | i bought snowboard | 23:17 |
| JackaLX | jonni: that sounds good, but how do I boot to Nemo (what is that BTW) | 23:17 |
| gabriel9 | 10€ | 23:17 |
| jonni | JackaLX: and rm /var/malf file before booting back to normal mode. almost forgotten that one. there is step by step forum post. | 23:17 |
| gabriel9 | burton t53, anyone can tell me is this ok board for begginers | 23:17 |
| jonni | JackaLX: in here http://wiki.meego.com/N950/Fixing_MALF_state | 23:18 |
| heikrnen | JackaLX: Information about Nemo: http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900 | 23:19 |
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| JackaLX | jonni: that looks like just what I need. awesome! thank you so very much!! | 23:21 |
| JackaLX | heikrnen: thanks for that! | 23:22 |
| heikrnen | JackaLX: but I have no clue how to boot N9 into it - N9 does not have microSD.. and the bootloader needs to be dual boot as well | 23:23 |
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| harbaum | argh ... the OCF creates a /tmp/selfextract.xxxx which it then deletes if i kill OCF ... | 23:25 |
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| harbaum | jonni: firmware.bin is img.bin from the extracted OCF? | 23:28 |
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| harbaum | BTW: What _is_ that arrow? | 23:31 |
| ZogG_laptop | jonni: maybe u can help m with sdk installation btw/ | 23:32 |
| ZogG_laptop | damn double post =( | 23:32 |
| heikrnen | harbaum: return to service? ;) | 23:33 |
| harbaum | So none of you has ever seen it? | 23:33 |
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| heikrnen | Which is the recommended wiki for harmattan platform sdk from now on? developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki has "archived" all platform SDK stuff since "it is not considered relevant for third-party developers creating commercial solutions today. " Is there any way to get those back? | 23:39 |
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| ZogG_laptop | found the problem | 23:47 |
| ZogG_laptop | it depend on libpng-1.2 while i have 1.5 =\ | 23:47 |
| harbaum | Erasing the emmc really takes forever ... and now the flasher wants to do it twice .... | 23:49 |
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