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| jesuschrist | ok | 00:13 |
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| jesuschrist | so pc suite | 00:13 |
| jesuschrist | imports | 00:13 |
| jesuschrist | a bit of the sms | 00:13 |
| jesuschrist | not all | 00:13 |
| jesuschrist | and then it stucks | 00:13 |
| jesuschrist | any other way to import sms on a n9? | 00:13 |
| gri | someone did want to write a program for that but I don't remember who | 00:14 |
| richmoore2 | mine imported via the bluetooth thing i mentioned before, i really don't know why yours won't | 00:14 |
| jesuschrist | rich | 00:14 |
| jesuschrist | the bluetooth | 00:14 |
| jesuschrist | just imports contacts! | 00:14 |
| jesuschrist | not sms! | 00:14 |
| richmoore2 | i know, you said before. but the fact all my sms messages are on my n9 says that on mine at least, you are incorrect | 00:15 |
| jesuschrist | how the heck did you do that :D | 00:16 |
| jesuschrist | was an e50? | 00:16 |
| richmoore2 | i have messages going back to 2009 so i'm damn sure i didn't do it by hand :-) | 00:17 |
| richmoore2 | it was from an n8 to the n9 | 00:17 |
| jesuschrist | oh | 00:17 |
| jesuschrist | maybe its because im trying to import for a diff model | 00:17 |
| jesuschrist | :\ | 00:17 |
| jesuschrist | *from | 00:17 |
| richmoore2 | could be, yeah | 00:18 |
| jesuschrist | hmm theres a way to import sms to gmail anyhow... | 00:19 |
| jabis | yet again my LG GT 400 gave them sms' without an effort just via clicking sync and enabling bt, so can't think why any "newer" older models wouldn't hand over the list to N9 ^^ | 00:19 |
| jesuschrist | well mine its freaking old | 00:20 |
| jesuschrist | e70 | 00:20 |
| richmoore2 | jabis: yeah, everything except the calendar has gone smoothly for me | 00:21 |
| jesuschrist | pc suite did import some of the sms | 00:21 |
| jesuschrist | the failed | 00:21 |
| jesuschrist | hmmm | 00:22 |
| gri | damn, I just tried syncing the n950 and n9 ... now all contacts are duplicated on both phones :P | 00:22 |
| jesuschrist | then | 00:22 |
| jesuschrist | lol gri | 00:22 |
| richmoore2 | gri: i just finished deduping my n8 after trying another time to persuade my calendar to move | 00:22 |
| richmoore2 | gri: i share your pain | 00:23 |
| jabis | gri, always before syncing - export your contacts x) | 00:23 |
| gri | well, they were synced to ovi before | 00:23 |
| gri | since the n9 doesn't even have a sim card in and had all contacts from the start | 00:24 |
| jabis | I mean a file backup - not any sync x) | 00:24 |
| gri | I thought it would be so intelligent to recognize that both phones are synced with ovi :P | 00:24 |
| richmoore2 | can i sync the n9 calendar from ovi? | 00:24 |
| jabis | you thought wrong x) | 00:24 |
| jabis | if even the charset is off - it's a different contact x) | 00:25 |
| jesuschrist | guys | 00:26 |
| jesuschrist | ive the nbu from the old nokia | 00:26 |
| jesuschrist | with the sms inside | 00:26 |
| jesuschrist | can i convert/import it somewhere | 00:26 |
| jesuschrist | then import it in n9 ? | 00:27 |
| jabis | I spent 3 hours sorting my contacts from facebook, old phone and 2 sims - just to do it all over again when I enabled sync with google, and MfE X) | 00:27 |
| gri | jabis: If I sync one phone with ovi now, will the contacts also be duplicated there? :) | 00:27 |
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| jabis | I'd suppose depends on the phone x) | 00:28 |
| jabis | and the contacts in it | 00:28 |
| gri | well, both harmattan with equal contacts | 00:29 |
| jabis | should go properly - if the language(codepage) is the same | 00:30 |
| jabis | if not - you'll have tripled your contacts x) | 00:30 |
| gri | I could also delete all contacts and sync back from ovi - if that doesn't delete them from there for some reason | 00:30 |
| jabis | if you have device priority over sync options- it'll erase the matching ones X) | 00:31 |
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| gri | disabling ovi sync, deleting the nokia account, removing all contacts, adding nokia account again -> all contacts are back and are not duplicated :) | 00:36 |
| jesuschrist | please developers | 00:37 |
| jesuschrist | do something for the sms issue :p | 00:37 |
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| jesuschrist | anyone alive? | 02:53 |
| Clint | no | 02:53 |
| jesuschrist | do you have a n9 clit ? | 02:54 |
| jesuschrist | clit ? | 02:54 |
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| Clint | jesuschrist: n950 | 02:57 |
| SpeedEvil | I was considering one for my n950. | 02:57 |
| jesuschrist | how much space has the n950 ? | 02:58 |
| SpeedEvil | http://www.dealextreme.com/p/aluminum-alloy-joystick-for-ipad-ipod-iphone-4-black-100687 | 02:58 |
| SpeedEvil | You can't buy a n950 | 02:59 |
| jesuschrist | i dont care | 02:59 |
| jesuschrist | i dont want a n950 | 02:59 |
| jesuschrist | im interested in the n9 partitions | 02:59 |
| jesuschrist | want to check if the n950 is the same | 02:59 |
| jesuschrist | nice joystick anyway | 03:00 |
| SpeedEvil | cat /proc/partitions major minor #blocks name | 03:01 |
| SpeedEvil | 7 0 8192 loop0 179 0 15523840 mmcblk0 179 1 9231872 mmcblk0p1 179 2 4194304 mmcblk0p2 179 3 2097152 mmcblk0p3 254 0 262144 ramzswap0 253 0 7164 dm-0 | 03:01 |
| jesuschrist | same | 03:02 |
| jesuschrist | so the n950 has 16 gb ? | 03:02 |
| SpeedEvil | This one does. | 03:03 |
| jesuschrist | are there other variants? | 03:04 |
| SpeedEvil | I have no idea. | 03:06 |
| SpeedEvil | In principle, there could be. | 03:06 |
| SpeedEvil | Given there was likely one initial batch - I suspect the chances of many 64Gs are small | 03:06 |
| jesuschrist | the 16gb model has in fact writeable and usable 8.8 gb | 03:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah :-/ | 03:07 |
| DocScrutinizer | uselss | 03:07 |
| jesuschrist | i guess 90% of the usare are nokia maps | 03:08 |
| jesuschrist | of uzbekistan thundra i bet | 03:09 |
| SpeedEvil | No. | 03:09 |
| SpeedEvil | / has 2.5G free, /home has 2.5G free | 03:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | mount|grep aegisfs | 03:10 |
| jesuschrist | meaning SpeedEvil ? | 03:11 |
| SpeedEvil | There is 5G free on the non-user-accessible filesystems | 03:11 |
| jesuschrist | i see | 03:12 |
| SpeedEvil | Part of this is an artifact of the way it's dealt with. | 03:12 |
| jesuschrist | usable for apps i guess | 03:12 |
| SpeedEvil | In order to be able to plug into a PC, it has to be a completely seperate drive. | 03:12 |
| jesuschrist | hmmm | 03:12 |
| SpeedEvil | Which means you can't really share space with the main filesystem. | 03:12 |
| jesuschrist | why so much space left out? | 03:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | for QML apps X-D | 03:16 |
| SpeedEvil | Because if / or /home runs out of space, bad things happen. | 03:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | and - you know - there's no more dmesg and so the system *needs* syslog, and you can't rm /var/log/syslog ;-P | 03:17 |
| jesuschrist | cool, 2 gb log | 03:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4763318 Nov 1 02:03 /var/log/syslog | 03:18 |
| jesuschrist | 4 mega | 03:18 |
| jesuschrist | in ? | 03:18 |
| jesuschrist | 2 weeks? | 03:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | err | 03:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 8041595 Aug 13 14:35 /var/log/syslog.old | 03:18 |
| jesuschrist | rotating | 03:19 |
| jesuschrist | lol | 03:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeeha! it has logrotate | 03:19 |
| jesuschrist | wtf | 03:19 |
| jesuschrist | it wont rotate forever anyway | 03:19 |
| jesuschrist | i bet i will keep max a month | 03:19 |
| jesuschrist | *it | 03:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# head -n 1 /var/log/syslog | 03:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | Aug 13 14:36:04 (none) syslogd 1.5.0#5maemo3.12+0m6: restart. | 03:20 |
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| jesuschrist | lol | 03:21 |
| jesuschrist | and the old one? | 03:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# head -n 1 /var/log/syslog.old | 03:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | Jul 9 17:12:42 (none) syslogd 1.5.0#5maemo3.12+0m6: restart. | 03:21 |
| jesuschrist | cool | 03:22 |
| jesuschrist | well this huge | 03:22 |
| jesuschrist | things are gonna be fixed | 03:22 |
| jesuschrist | with 1.1 for sure | 03:22 |
| jesuschrist | what firmware are you running | 03:22 |
| jesuschrist | doc | 03:23 |
| jesuschrist | anyway i cant log to ovi store either | 03:25 |
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| djszapi | Morning! Any Mac users having Qt installed ? | 05:54 |
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| ieatlint | djszapi: yes | 06:02 |
| ieatlint | actually, rephrase that, I have the qt sdk installed, but the libs aren't in my libdir | 06:02 |
| djszapi | ieatlint: Could you please help me with trying just to build our project ? | 06:02 |
| ieatlint | sure | 06:02 |
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| ieatlint | git? | 06:02 |
| djszapi | We tried it a while ago, but we do not have Mac developer continously, just Windows and Linux :p | 06:03 |
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| djszapi | I was fixing build issues when I could borrow Mac machines. | 06:03 |
| ieatlint | i wouldn't call myself a mac developer, i use a linux laptop as my primary, and a macbook air for portability | 06:03 |
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| npm | heh... this one worked unexpectedly, after the fourth randon edit t the pipeline: aegis-exec -a "GRP::video" -a "GRP::pulse-access" gst-launch-0.10 -v ximagesrc ! ffmpegcolorspace ! jpegenc ! multipartmux ! filesink location=screenlapse.mjpeg | 07:04 |
| npm | but how do i add sound | 07:04 |
| npm | ? | 07:04 |
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| * npm attempting to make video of http://code.google.com/p/voicetogoog/ | 07:05 | |
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| iekku | morning | 07:33 |
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| npm | very strange first time I scp ... screenlapse.mjpeg 1% 6608KB 1.7MB/s - stalled -^CKilled by signal 2. | 08:12 |
| npm | second time screenlapse.mjpeg 49% 201MB 6.7MB/s 00:31 ETA | 08:12 |
| npm | meegolem-134-~> scp user@usb0:screenlapse.mjpeg /media/gnulem-npm/appup/voicetogoog_0.1.0.mjpeg | 08:12 |
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| xsacha | hey guys, i'm having trouble running an app that I ported using Qt | 09:02 |
| xsacha | it complains "Failed to connect to remote themedaemon. Retrying in one second." over and over | 09:03 |
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| xsacha | oh cause i was trying to run as root | 09:07 |
| xsacha | but when i run through app launcher, nothing happens at all | 09:07 |
| xsacha | no errors, no window | 09:14 |
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| xsacha | "Using the meego graphics system" then nothing.. | 09:15 |
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| npm | xsacha: yesteday i saw meego-terminal option: [-local-theme] Force usage of local theme processing instead of remote theme daemon | 09:38 |
| Hq` | are you sure you are calling show() for your window? | 09:42 |
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| xsacha | Hq`: definitely calling view.show(), the app is definitely running, i can use qDebug() << "Test" and it is printed | 09:55 |
| xsacha | no window ever appears | 09:55 |
| xsacha | it's a QML app and i set the source qml file with: view.setSource(QString("qrc:/qml/app/main.qml")); | 09:55 |
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| mece | xsacha, paste the main.cpp | 09:59 |
| mece | also, is main.qml in the qrc file? | 09:59 |
| mece | xsacha, here's one that I know works: http://pastie.org/2792257 I have view.showFullscreen(); instead of view.show() | 10:01 |
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| xsacha | mece: the same app works on windows, symbian and playbook | 10:26 |
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| xsacha | mece: http://pastebin.com/An1G3k1q | 10:27 |
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| xsacha | mece: (with platform defines removed): http://pastebin.com/PiJsBUyK | 10:30 |
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| xarcass | xsacha: is there a working playbook port of the Qt? | 10:39 |
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| xsacha | yes | 10:39 |
| xsacha | there was a port a while made, unofficial. but now RIM has ported one themselves, officially | 10:40 |
| xsacha | while back* | 10:40 |
| xsacha | xarcass: https://github.com/blackberry/Qt | 10:40 |
| xarcass | xsacha: where should I look to find it? | 10:40 |
| xarcass | xsacha: thanks | 10:40 |
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| xsacha | RIM ported heaps of libraries such as SDL, Box2D, Bullet, Cocos2D, GamePlay, and OS games like DosBox, Wesnoth. There's also engines like phonegap, unreal engine, unity3d and such | 10:42 |
| xsacha | still can't get why my game doesn't work on harmattan :( | 10:43 |
| xarcass | xsacha: Could you please tell me whether there are any problems with debug and deployment? | 10:43 |
| xsacha | xarcass: of.. Playbook? | 10:43 |
| xarcass | xsacha: yes, i've never used it, though I wish I had. I'm considering buying one | 10:44 |
| xsacha | well they're cheap now. you can whim me or talk in #playbook-dev | 10:44 |
| xarcass | xsacha: price is not an issue for me, suitability for app development - that's what I am interested in | 10:45 |
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| mece | xsacha, so where does the thing crash? | 10:50 |
| xsacha | it doesn't crash | 10:51 |
| mece | xsacha, black screen? | 10:51 |
| xsacha | no errors, still running | 10:51 |
| xsacha | screen doesn't change | 10:51 |
| xsacha | no window appears for my ap | 10:52 |
| mece | ow. | 10:52 |
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| xsacha | i have got other apps working so definitely something unique to my app | 10:54 |
| mece | xsacha, I'd guess the problem lies in qmlapplicationviewer. | 10:54 |
| mece | is there some special magic in there or could you try just using QtDeclarativeView instead? | 10:55 |
| xsacha | it's just the ordinary generic cod | 10:55 |
| mece | xsacha, I've never used that. I just put QDeclarativeView instead | 10:56 |
| xsacha | it set that up for me when i made the symbian version | 10:56 |
| mece | oh.. | 10:57 |
| mece | xsacha, try something like this: http://pastebin.com/2dnkzQfg | 10:59 |
| mece | ooh nice. Never saw that you get the diff in pastie. cool :D | 10:59 |
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| xsacha | yeah first thing i clicked on :) | 11:00 |
| mece | for some reason the orientation gets locked in landscape if you don't use qt quick components btw. | 11:00 |
| xsacha | ok | 11:01 |
| deram | isn't it then the way your computer works too.. all applications are locked to landscape if no special portrait logic is in use? | 11:03 |
| xsacha | not on symbian | 11:04 |
| xsacha | it rotates your application using clunky Avkon windowing methods. So I override it and rotate it my own way (which is instant) | 11:04 |
| deram | ok. but harmattan is closer to desktop linux than symbian, And I can see there is no full X11 display rotaton in use.. | 11:05 |
| xsacha | mece: i found the issue with the app. it turns out the main qml elements had no width and height | 11:05 |
| mece | :D | 11:05 |
| mece | xsacha, good | 11:05 |
| xsacha | mece: this wasn't working: object->setProperty("screenWidth", view.width()); | 11:05 |
| mece | hm | 11:06 |
| xsacha | so i hardcoded width and height and it gets an error this time | 11:06 |
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| xsacha | qrc:/qml/rq/main.qml:14:5: Cannot override FINAL property | 11:06 |
| mece | xsacha, setResizeMode(QDeclarativeView::SizeRootObjectToView); | 11:07 |
| xsacha | ok | 11:08 |
| mece | xsacha, that error sounds like javascript error | 11:08 |
| mece | or. | 11:08 |
| mece | hm | 11:08 |
| xsacha | yeah it is | 11:08 |
| mece | ok :) | 11:08 |
| mece | well then you've made it into qml land at least :) | 11:08 |
| mece | xsacha, what game is it? | 11:09 |
| xsacha | where's the setResizeMode go? : | 11:09 |
| mece | the view | 11:09 |
| mece | view-> | 11:09 |
| mece | erm I've got to check that tho. I think it was like that. | 11:09 |
| xsacha | ok | 11:09 |
| mece | xsacha, yeah, tharr she blows: http://doc.qt.nokia.com/stable/qdeclarativeview.html | 11:10 |
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| mece | xsacha, http://doc.qt.nokia.com/stable/qdeclarativeview.html#resizeMode-prop | 11:11 |
| xsacha | still got some weird number for width/height.. i'll keep debugging | 11:11 |
| mece | xsacha, to make things really work properly for different platforms I suggest making a special qml main for each, and import the actual app into that. | 11:13 |
| xsacha | :\ hope that isn't required. it's working well so far | 11:13 |
| mece | ok :) | 11:13 |
| xsacha | most the app is in C++. just a few elements in qml | 11:14 |
| mece | oh ok then. | 11:14 |
| xsacha | i was considering making a special qml for playbook (because of its bezel) but don't think harmattan will need | 11:14 |
| mece | what's playbook again? | 11:15 |
| psycho_oreos | crackberry | 11:16 |
| mece | ah ok. | 11:18 |
| mece | that runs qt stuff? | 11:18 |
| deram | hmm... close application by swiping down uses application orientation, not device orientation.. | 11:20 |
| deram | feels odd when trying to close landscape locked application holding device portrait | 11:20 |
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| xsacha | i know :P | 11:23 |
| xsacha | mece: yes | 11:23 |
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| dm8tbr | deram: what I have developed as a habit: only swipe away from the right or the bottom. | 11:29 |
| mece | I really want swipe manager to work again | 11:31 |
| mece | miss it so much | 11:31 |
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| xsacha | my n9 just got two software updates: openssh-server, openssh-client | 11:48 |
| xsacha | grr now i cant install stuff because software updater appeared .. dpkg status locked | 11:50 |
| deram | dm8tbr: that swipe to kill is disablable in config, but I think it is good way to exit application | 11:50 |
| deram | though, it should be the device up to down, not the applications | 11:50 |
| dm8tbr | deram: I use swipe to close a lot, that comment was for swipe _away_ | 11:51 |
| dm8tbr | xsacha: close the dialogue, wait a few minutes, works again | 11:51 |
| xsacha | any way to speed up that last part? | 11:51 |
| deram | dm8tbr: ok.. | 11:51 |
| xsacha | like deleting the lock file in debian | 11:52 |
| matrixx | xsacha: that will speed up :P | 11:52 |
| xsacha | that worked | 11:52 |
| dm8tbr | rm -rf / #that speeds up things too | 11:53 |
| xsacha | mece: still no window. i'm using code you pastebinned (QApplicationViewer) and hardcoded width/height | 11:53 |
| xarcass | xsacha: pkill pkg-mgr always works for me | 11:53 |
| deram | dm8tbr: do you know, which interface did the swipemanager use to set those actions earlier? is that api/config file usable still? | 11:54 |
| dm8tbr | no idea | 11:55 |
| deram | ok. | 11:55 |
| mece | xsacha, damne | 11:56 |
| mece | xsacha, whatever could it be? no error messages regarding not finding qml files or some stuff? | 11:57 |
| Kaadlajk | pkgmgr install-file -f something.deb, might also work | 11:57 |
| Kaadlajk | I just usually do, killall pkgmgrd | 11:57 |
| mece | Kaadlajk, me also | 11:57 |
| xsacha | apt-get update works too | 11:57 |
| xsacha | mece: nope, definitely finds and runs the qml file because i get an error if i do something bad there | 11:58 |
| xsacha | qDebug()'s stop working after the line: view.setSource(..) though | 11:59 |
| xsacha | view.height() and view.width() is correctly 854, 480. it's just that code never ran | 11:59 |
| xsacha | quite annoying. i'm going to have to do this the other way. going to start with a working app and then add my code to it | 12:08 |
| mece | xsacha, what is the root object? | 12:08 |
| mece | what type | 12:08 |
| xsacha | an Item | 12:08 |
| mece | k. | 12:08 |
| xsacha | it works on all other platforms so i don't see how it could be an issue with the qml | 12:08 |
| mece | how very weird. | 12:09 |
| xsacha | going to just switch qml files with my NFC app and then add the C++ code and see if it works | 12:09 |
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| xsacha | mece: the qml app is definitely running by the way. i set up a timer and have it giving me info about the app (which is changing!) | 12:10 |
| mece | xsacha, try just putting a rectangle in the qml with some text in it | 12:10 |
| xsacha | just no window appears | 12:10 |
| mece | so weird | 12:11 |
| mece | did you set width: 854; height: 480; in the main.qml file? | 12:11 |
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| xsacha | yes | 12:12 |
| xsacha | does meego have Haptics? | 12:13 |
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| leinir | xsacha: meego's a bit broad, but harmattan does, yes :) | 12:26 |
| xsacha | bingo! i removed haptics effect and i can SEE! | 12:26 |
| xsacha | import QtMobility.feedback 1.1 ?? | 12:27 |
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| MohammadAG | xsacha, you're not the first person to say QtFeedback broke their code | 12:52 |
| MohammadAG | I tnink the C++ code works fine, I think | 12:52 |
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| faenil | goor morning everyone :) | 12:57 |
| MohammadAG | morning | 12:59 |
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| xsacha | how to do haptics in qml on n9 then? | 13:34 |
| leinir | well, create some simple wrapper class for the haptics yourself, and then expose that to your qml engine :) | 13:35 |
| xsacha | that sucks | 13:39 |
| leinir | Well, if you can create a self-contained test case showing the bug in the feedback stuff, post that to the bugtracker and it'll get fixed :) | 13:43 |
| xsacha | is there an easy way to check if the qml code is running on meego harmattan? | 13:43 |
| xsacha | or i should pass MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN in some variable? | 13:44 |
| xsacha | hmm, harmattan doesn't have QOrientationSensor either? | 13:44 |
| xsacha | nevermind | 13:47 |
| xsacha | hmm everything working. now just need to disable swiping | 13:53 |
| leinir | Nicely :) | 13:54 |
| leinir | What're you working on? :) | 13:54 |
| leinir | (since you want to disable swiping, i'm guessing a game) | 13:54 |
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| pinheiro_ | :) | 14:03 |
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| rafael2k | people, any anwser by nokia on why the sdk is stuck on beta2? | 14:30 |
| SpeedEvil | Because there aren't enough people working on it, as meego is a dead-end product. | 14:31 |
| SpeedEvil | :/ | 14:31 |
| rafael2k | :/ | 14:31 |
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| jesuschrist | :\ | 14:41 |
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| rafael2k | wow, fm radio for N950!!! | 14:42 |
| rafael2k | fmrx_0.1.3 ! | 14:43 |
| * Arkenoi wonders if transmitter will work as well | 14:51 | |
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| deram | could that FM radio work on N9 also? | 14:52 |
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| clbr | deram: works nicely | 14:56 |
| rafael2k | ooops | 14:58 |
| rafael2k | here in the N950, no audio | 14:58 |
| rafael2k | any glue? | 14:58 |
| clbr | rafael2k: reboot, or try again | 14:58 |
| rafael2k | I installed the \(N9FanClub.com\)fmrx_0.1.3_armel.deb | 14:59 |
| rafael2k | clbr: lets see | 14:59 |
| xsacha | rafael2k: well, obvious things to check: do you have antenna (something in headphone jack) plugged in? | 15:00 |
| rafael2k | is there a "power on" button? | 15:00 |
| xsacha | have you tried rebooting phone (i have never needed this but some people say this is required) | 15:00 |
| rafael2k | no audio here | 15:00 |
| rafael2k | xsacha: headphone plugged | 15:01 |
| clbr | i'm using http://t.co/5E6mj394 (thomas perls gui) | 15:01 |
| SpeedEvil | Are you in an underground bunker with no FM reception? | 15:01 |
| clbr | you might have to toogle the on/off switch | 15:01 |
| xsacha | and lastly: are you sure the frequency you're using (eg. fmrx -f 106.9) exists | 15:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | Arkenoi: very low chances for FMTX | 15:02 |
| rafael2k | clbr: any .deb? | 15:02 |
| rafael2k | clbr: where is the on/off switch in the gui? | 15:03 |
| xsacha | fmtx won't work on n950 at all (it doesn't have the chip at all) | 15:03 |
| rafael2k | yeaaaaaaah! | 15:03 |
| rafael2k | even without headphones!!! | 15:03 |
| rafael2k | : ))))) | 15:03 |
| Arkenoi | iirc it was said it is single rx/tx chip | 15:03 |
| xsacha | n9 has rx/tx chip | 15:03 |
| xsacha | n950 has the non-tx variation | 15:04 |
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| DocScrutinizer | xsacha: it HAS the chip | 15:04 |
| xsacha | non-l version | 15:04 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh ? really? | 15:04 |
| rafael2k | good reception | 15:04 |
| xsacha | definitely | 15:04 |
| rafael2k | no RDS available via gui yet | 15:04 |
| xsacha | rafael2k: strange. thought that'd be easiest part to pass from console to gui :P | 15:05 |
| rafael2k | thanks a lot people | 15:05 |
| rafael2k | xsacha: eheheh, I think I'll install the cli | 15:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | I didn't know the 1371 had to FMTX | 15:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | xsacha: citation needed | 15:06 |
| xsacha | check the manufacturer.. and it's a 1273 | 15:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | err 1271/3 yeah | 15:07 |
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| DocScrutinizer | xsacha: >>FM TX: When FM is transmitting. FM (AFE) PM is entirely on. >> [ SPRAB95 WiLink 6.0-based (1271/3) Module Solution Overview << -- I'd like to get pointers to better datasheets, it seems there's pretty scarce documentation publicly available | 15:16 |
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| xsacha | you can ask manufacturer for datasheets :) | 15:19 |
| SpeedEvil | Who will then ignore you. | 15:20 |
| xsacha | i've had good experiences (and bad) before | 15:20 |
| DocScrutinizer | I *might* do that, but tbh I'm doing that only when I'm extremely interested in the chip *and* the device | 15:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | otherwise my whole day was just filled with signing NDA agreements etc | 15:23 |
| DocScrutinizer | xsacha: so if you say you know from better datasheets than I have that 1271 has no FMTX I tend to accept it for a fact | 15:24 |
| xsacha | n9 has, n950 doesn't ;) | 15:24 |
| xsacha | but it's probably a lost cause on both | 15:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | of course a citation of the datasheet passage saying so, plus TI's internal datasheet number was a nice move ;-D | 15:25 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I'd think quoting a singe sentence is OK, even on thos "NDA" datasheets | 15:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | yesyes, we all know about N9 having 1273 while N950 has 1271, and we also heard about the missing antenna several times | 15:27 |
| xsacha | 1271 has FM transmit too.. | 15:27 |
| xsacha | but there's two versions | 15:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | ahaaaa | 15:28 |
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| DocScrutinizer | many thanks for shedding some light on that | 15:30 |
| xsacha | DocScrutinizer: http://focus.ti.com/general/docs/wtbu/wtbuproductcontent.tsp?contentId=29993&navigationId=12762&templateId=6123 "Both solutions support ... FM transmit and receive." | 15:30 |
| jesuschrist | guys anyone could help with the ovi store issue? | 15:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | xsacha: well, that'S what I recalled and why I wondered what you're talking about | 15:31 |
| leinir | jesuschrist: which one's that, then? | 15:31 |
| jesuschrist | leinir : the one who prevents users to login on the ovi store and nokia account | 15:32 |
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| leinir | Ah | 15:38 |
| xsacha | well last i heard people were resetting their device to get that working | 15:39 |
| xsacha | my device came with a nokia account already on it. so i'm assuming it's a known bug | 15:40 |
| jesuschrist | tried resetting 4 times today | 15:40 |
| jesuschrist | nothing changed | 15:40 |
| jesuschrist | your device already had a nokia account on it ? | 15:42 |
| jesuschrist | uh ? | 15:42 |
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| DocScrutinizer | HAH, R&D device I assume | 15:46 |
| leinir | It's kind of clever - if you've got your nokia account set up to some phone number, and move the sim into a new phone, it'll pick up your username that way :) felt a bit big brother when it happened to me, but it /is/ clever :) | 15:48 |
| DocScrutinizer | my suspicion still is there's a cookie or whatever that gets stored up and spoils the sh*t forever. My suggestion: create the account via web browser from your PC, reflash the device, do *NOT* allow it to go online until you have set up the account credentials. - mere handwaving except it worked for me that way | 15:48 |
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| jesuschrist | i did exactly that doc | 15:49 |
| jesuschrist | i | 15:49 |
| jesuschrist | created my account online | 15:49 |
| jesuschrist | oh | 15:49 |
| jesuschrist | you mean | 15:49 |
| jesuschrist | first yyou set credentials | 15:49 |
| jesuschrist | then you set up internet connection ? | 15:49 |
| jesuschrist | i may try | 15:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes | 15:49 |
| jesuschrist | last resetting | 15:50 |
| jesuschrist | before | 15:50 |
| jesuschrist | waiting for a fucking fix | 15:50 |
| jesuschrist | (seems a huge issue anyway) | 15:50 |
| DocScrutinizer | might as well be related to server load, and thus appear to be mere random | 15:50 |
| jesuschrist | no wait doc | 15:50 |
| jesuschrist | you cant save | 15:50 |
| jesuschrist | nokia account | 15:51 |
| jesuschrist | login and pass | 15:51 |
| jesuschrist | the page clean the data | 15:51 |
| jesuschrist | when you exit the app | 15:51 |
| jesuschrist | unless you succesfully login i bet | 15:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | anybody really interested might want to snoop the wlan traffic | 15:52 |
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| jesuschrist | its cleary a software issue imo | 15:52 |
| jesuschrist | not network related | 15:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | to tell whether (and what) wrong data gets sent by HARM, or wrong answer comes from Nokia | 15:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | and as that's all HTTPS I bet, you won't succed on this approach ;-D | 15:53 |
| jesuschrist | btw even findinf whats the problem | 15:54 |
| jesuschrist | still cant fix it | 15:54 |
| jesuschrist | im just trying to find a work around | 15:54 |
| jesuschrist | cant understand why hard resetting for me doesnt work | 15:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | hard to find a workaround with no clue what'S the problem | 15:54 |
| jesuschrist | syslog has the answer!!!1111!!! | 15:57 |
| DocScrutinizer | ???? :-o | 16:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | pastebin!! | 16:00 |
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| jesuschrist | hmm whats the ssh pass? | 16:01 |
| jesuschrist | rootme? | 16:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | yoh | 16:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | though... heard B2 doesn't allow root login via ssh any more | 16:02 |
| jesuschrist | wtf | 16:02 |
| jesuschrist | i sshed in yesterday | 16:02 |
| jesuschrist | and now it says access denied | 16:02 |
| jesuschrist | lol | 16:02 |
| jesuschrist | how so ? | 16:04 |
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| jesuschrist | any idea? | 16:04 |
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| jesuschrist | i read on the forum ppl succed on reflashing n9 | 16:04 |
| jesuschrist | i may give it a try | 16:04 |
| jesuschrist | its driving me crazy | 16:04 |
| Velmont | Oh? How so? With Nemo? | 16:07 |
| jesuschrist | i have no clue | 16:07 |
| jesuschrist | http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4728&page=4 | 16:09 |
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| xsacha | 50% | 16:16 |
| xsacha | flash video doesn't appear either | 16:17 |
| xsacha | only videos! | 16:17 |
| xsacha | wrong channel | 16:18 |
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| cityLights | ~seen MohammadAG | 16:21 |
| infobot | mohammadag is currently on #maemo (21h 43m 26s) #harmattan (21h 43m 26s) #meego (21h 43m 26s). Has said a total of 40 messages. Is idling for 3h 22m 5s, last said: 'morning'. | 16:21 |
| nibbler | somehow the pictures and ringtones get fewer and fewer with every release :( after OTA-updating to 39-5 i still had that bookshelf&headphones wallpaper, using the OCF image made it disappear. | 16:24 |
| nibbler | on the bright side... i was able to sync it again with ovi suite. | 16:24 |
| jesuschrist | on nice | 16:25 |
| jesuschrist | you synced the ovi with n950? | 16:25 |
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| xsacha | you have to use an older version of suite (not latest one) | 16:30 |
| DocScrutinizer | sync to ovi works to some degree (not for calendar for example) | 16:30 |
| xsacha | to get your first sync done.. | 16:30 |
| xsacha | and then you can use any version after that | 16:31 |
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| CepiPerez | hey guys | 16:49 |
| CepiPerez | I get a ssh update today | 16:49 |
| CepiPerez | does somebody knows what's new? | 16:50 |
| deimos | no root access with that update :) | 16:50 |
| CepiPerez | shit | 16:50 |
| CepiPerez | thanks | 16:50 |
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| faenil | wait | 16:51 |
| faenil | that was already like that in latest update | 16:51 |
| jesuschrist | an update for n950 cepi ? | 16:53 |
| arcean | jesuschrist: updated openssh packages | 16:54 |
| jesuschrist | for n950 ? | 16:54 |
| arcean | yes | 16:55 |
| jesuschrist | because i suddendly cant access ssh on my n9 | 16:55 |
| jesuschrist | -_- | 16:55 |
| arcean | and you're trying to log in as root? | 16:56 |
| sandst1 | jesuschrist: ssh user@192.168.2.15 and devel-sh/devel-su/develsh/whatever the name was should do the job | 16:56 |
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| jesuschrist | im trying to log in as root | 16:59 |
| jesuschrist | yep | 16:59 |
| Venemo_N950 | hey guys | 16:59 |
| jesuschrist | whats the pass for the username:user | 16:59 |
| Venemo_N950 | could someone tell me how can I hack that Sym key combo thing so that I can enter accented letters on my N950? | 17:00 |
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| nibbler | jesuschrist: yup. works with 3.1.1.90 | 17:13 |
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| jesuschrist | nice | 17:14 |
| jesuschrist | this means finally i will be able to sync my sms | 17:14 |
| jesuschrist | from my old nokia | 17:14 |
| matrixx | jesuschrist: passwd is same than for root | 17:15 |
| jesuschrist | ill try | 17:15 |
| jesuschrist | strange because yesterday i was able | 17:15 |
| jesuschrist | to ssh with root | 17:15 |
| matrixx | also possible to login as developer if the sdk connection is on | 17:15 |
| jesuschrist | before i hard resetted the device 10 times because | 17:15 |
| jesuschrist | of the ovi store issue | 17:16 |
| matrixx | for me it broke in 1.1 update | 17:16 |
| jesuschrist | any idea on the 1.1 for us n9 owners ? | 17:16 |
| berndhs | for me ovi store broke in the last firmware update, so did twitter, SIP is working | 17:16 |
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| matrixx | I can't login in gtalk | 17:17 |
| matrixx | after 1.1 | 17:17 |
| matrixx | I think I'll put now some of my votes for the gtalk issue | 17:17 |
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| mece | hey does Qt.quit() no longer work in qtquick on harmattan? | 17:19 |
| berndhs | mece: still works in my code | 17:19 |
| nibbler | jesuschrist: the special thing is just that you don't have to re-pair it with ovi-suite after doing a re-flash. just restart ovi suite and sync again. done/done. | 17:23 |
| nibbler | jesuschrist: if you try to pair it again it tells you that the device is not supported. | 17:23 |
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| jesuschrist | cool | 17:24 |
| jesuschrist | im more concerned on how to transfer sms | 17:27 |
| jesuschrist | if ovi suite begin to support n9 | 17:27 |
| jesuschrist | its great new | 17:27 |
| jesuschrist | s | 17:27 |
| jesuschrist | still cant access | 17:32 |
| jesuschrist | ssh | 17:32 |
| jesuschrist | even with user | 17:32 |
| jesuschrist | hmm i see | 17:33 |
| jesuschrist | i have permitrootlogin no | 17:33 |
| jesuschrist | in sshd_config | 17:33 |
| jesuschrist | i wonder how did i connect yesterday... | 17:33 |
| jesuschrist | on the terminal there are no arrows on the virtual key ? | 17:36 |
| jesuschrist | first thing : go nano, fuck vi :d | 17:37 |
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| jesuschrist | how to scroll | 17:38 |
| jesuschrist | without | 17:38 |
| jesuschrist | arrows guys ? | 17:38 |
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| Milhouse | jesuschrist: arrows toolbar (switch toolbar in the menu) or if you're on the swype keyboard, swipe from the Swype key to the language key - you'll get a new menu layout with arrows. | 17:39 |
| jesuschrist | uh thanks Milhouse | 17:40 |
| jesuschrist | they made the nano package in my language | 17:41 |
| jesuschrist | cool | 17:41 |
| jesuschrist | hmm how to restart openssh ? | 17:42 |
| jesuschrist | no script for it in init.d | 17:42 |
| CepiPerez | last time I tried to edit ssh configs | 17:47 |
| CepiPerez | I bricked my phone | 17:47 |
| jesuschrist | lolz | 17:48 |
| jesuschrist | well i already did it | 17:48 |
| jesuschrist | now ill disable and renable dev mode | 17:48 |
| jesuschrist | checking if this reload the config | 17:48 |
| jesuschrist | yeah works | 17:50 |
| jesuschrist | and no brick :p | 17:50 |
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| nibbler | jesuschrist: the only thing i need ovi suite for is contacts. | 17:51 |
| nibbler | can't sync them with anything proper. | 17:51 |
| nibbler | for calendar there's caldav. works like a charm with davical. | 17:52 |
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| jesuschrist | any idea on how to transfer sms nibbler? | 17:52 |
| nibbler | sms is a one-way-street apparently :( | 17:52 |
| nibbler | just device -> ovi suite. | 17:52 |
| jesuschrist | sigh | 17:53 |
| jesuschrist | i have 2 years sms on my old phone :8 | 17:53 |
| nibbler | ovi suite allows export as csv but i had problems importing the csv anywhere because the delimiter is "," which occasionally happens to be content of messages. | 17:53 |
| jesuschrist | yep i exported the csv | 17:53 |
| jesuschrist | you could also export sms in .nbu format | 17:53 |
| nibbler | ovi suite uses sqlite internally, so i just grabbed that one and put it on the shelf... | 17:53 |
| jesuschrist | but i have no idea how to use .nbu | 17:53 |
| nibbler | what's nbu? | 17:53 |
| nibbler | ok :) | 17:53 |
| jesuschrist | its the format ovi suite and pc suite uses for backups | 17:54 |
| jesuschrist | thers a nbu converter online wich converts nbu to outlook and such | 17:54 |
| jesuschrist | but then ? lol | 17:54 |
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| nibbler | yeah... no :-) | 17:55 |
| jesuschrist | well just have to wait till new firmware upgrades come i guess | 17:55 |
| nibbler | i wish there was contacts syncing to anything other than google or ovi | 17:55 |
| jesuschrist | hope it wont be too much | 17:55 |
| jesuschrist | time | 17:55 |
| jesuschrist | anyway upgrading repositories on n9 | 17:56 |
| jesuschrist | not working | 17:56 |
| jesuschrist | with all the repo links | 17:56 |
| nibbler | i don't want to give all 1260 contacts (minus ~15% duplicates created when syncing my E7/E72/E52) to any of them. | 17:56 |
| jesuschrist | oh i dont pretty much care | 17:57 |
| jesuschrist | 1260 its a big number anyway | 17:57 |
| jesuschrist | :p | 17:57 |
| nibbler | the oldest ones were created on my Siemens S25 :) | 17:57 |
| jesuschrist | i have 60 contacts lol :D | 17:57 |
| * jesuschrist feels like stallman | 17:58 | |
| nibbler | i ocasionally check at least the mobile numbers in there for validity by doing certain SS7/MAP requests. but that just removes a few, every time i do that. (bi-yearly) | 17:59 |
| jesuschrist | i wish there was a sip dialer | 18:00 |
| jesuschrist | app | 18:00 |
| jesuschrist | can you run java | 18:01 |
| jesuschrist | apps ? | 18:01 |
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| Corsac | nibbler: on n950 there was a syncml bluetooth chan | 18:06 |
| Corsac | nibbler: so it might be possible to sync with syncevolution for example | 18:06 |
| jesuschrist | RM696-34-1_PR_009:/# apt-cache search jvm | 18:06 |
| jesuschrist | RM696-34-1_PR_009:/# | 18:06 |
| Corsac | nibbler: I intend to try that when I get a N9 | 18:06 |
| jesuschrist | :( | 18:06 |
| jesuschrist | no java ? :( | 18:06 |
| Corsac | (as I don't really want to give my contacts/calendar to anyone else either) | 18:06 |
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| jesuschrist | http://www.ideasproject.com/ideas/12941 | 18:11 |
| jesuschrist | anyone working on a jvm for n9 here ?!?!? | 18:13 |
| * leinir steals some of jesuschrist's copious punctuation and runs away with it "Bwuahahaha!" ;) | 18:15 | |
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| jesuschrist | give my punctuation back | 18:17 |
| nibbler | Corsac: hmm! that could be a way. | 18:19 |
| nibbler | jesuschrist: you can switch to sip in the regular call screen. just numbers for input though. | 18:19 |
| nibbler | Corsac: i went through all the pain to get funambol up and running just to sync all my stuff privately. now with N950 i have linux on my phone but farther away from that than ever before :) | 18:21 |
| nibbler | one could however try to use the exchange sync stuff.... hmmm. | 18:21 |
| nibbler | happy happy joy. a new todo-item :) | 18:21 |
| Corsac | well, with active sync you still need a third party server | 18:21 |
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| jesuschrist | nibbler : by sip dialer i mean a ptsn number wich let you make sip calls without having internet connection | 18:22 |
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| jesuschrist | nibbler : http://www.lowcaller.com/en/ | 18:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer | ( just numbers for input though) poor design. Seems in contacts you can add arbitrary SIP contact URLs though | 18:46 |
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| jesuschrist | the real depressing thing is no jvm :( | 18:50 |
| gri | yeah, it's really hard filling all that ram without java | 18:52 |
| jesuschrist | got many java apps | 18:53 |
| jesuschrist | :( | 18:53 |
| jesuschrist | ill try installing the java me for embedded devices | 18:53 |
| jesuschrist | anyway meego uses 850 mb of ram without having any application open | 18:59 |
| Stskeeps | free -m is more accurate | 19:01 |
| Stskeeps | a lot of it is cached | 19:01 |
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| color`coded | coooooooool | 19:04 |
| jesuschrist | yo | 19:07 |
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| SpeedEvil | Also - RSS is a lie. | 19:19 |
| nibbler | jesuschrist: hmmm. for that i use freeswitch. | 19:23 |
| nibbler | jesuschrist: but i got a freeswitch install anyway so it was just adding another number for that and three lines into the dialplan | 19:24 |
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| jesuschrist | tried to install | 20:01 |
| jesuschrist | the java se | 20:01 |
| jesuschrist | in th en9 | 20:01 |
| jesuschrist | says "operation not permitted" | 20:01 |
| jesuschrist | while i try to run the binary | 20:01 |
| jesuschrist | any idea? | 20:01 |
| jesuschrist | ok now works | 20:03 |
| jesuschrist | RM696-34-1_PR_009:~# java -jar BetamaxSMS.jar | 20:11 |
| jesuschrist | Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from | 20:11 |
| jesuschrist | uh ? | 20:11 |
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| gri | jesuschrist: Don't try a betamax client | 20:25 |
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| jesuschrist | gri :? | 20:31 |
| jesuschrist | i need a way to send sms from my phone | 20:32 |
| jesuschrist | through sip | 20:32 |
| jesuschrist | if you have better ideas | 20:32 |
| jesuschrist | im here | 20:32 |
| jesuschrist | those jars work on e70 :\ | 20:32 |
| ZogG | thru sip? | 20:35 |
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| jesuschrist | yes | 20:36 |
| gri | jesuschrist: In a week you will be able to test the web2sms harmattan port which has betamax as provider plugin | 20:36 |
| jesuschrist | cool | 20:36 |
| jesuschrist | who is the dev ? | 20:36 |
| jesuschrist | still would be nice be able to run java on our phones | 20:37 |
| iekku | java? | 20:38 |
| iekku | *hrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr* | 20:38 |
| gri | jesuschrist: me | 20:38 |
| Stskeeps | iekku: bad flashbacks? | 20:38 |
| jesuschrist | gri | 20:39 |
| jesuschrist | i luv u | 20:39 |
| jesuschrist | could you also make a dialer or something similar gri ? you know lowcaller ? | 20:40 |
| ZogG | MohammadAG, ping | 20:43 |
| iekku | Stskeeps, yes :D | 20:45 |
| gri | jesuschrist: No, that's something different | 20:49 |
| jesuschrist | i know | 20:53 |
| jesuschrist | but could you make something like that ? | 20:53 |
| gri | No idea | 20:58 |
| rafael2k | people, do you think it's possible to port the hildon userland to run in harmattan w/ aegis disabled? | 20:59 |
| gri | Don't they just use a sip server which you can configure on your n9 anyway? | 20:59 |
| Stskeeps | rafael2k: why would you want to.. | 20:59 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:59 |
| rafael2k | aegis disabled? | 20:59 |
| rafael2k | ; ) | 20:59 |
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| jesuschrist | yep gri | 21:10 |
| jesuschrist | but | 21:10 |
| jesuschrist | the dialer is useful | 21:11 |
| jesuschrist | when you dont have internet connection | 21:11 |
| jesuschrist | or lets say you dont have data on your connection plan | 21:11 |
| jesuschrist | betamax has an app for it | 21:11 |
| jesuschrist | guys just letting you know | 21:22 |
| jesuschrist | same ways to use java | 21:22 |
| jesuschrist | on n900 | 21:22 |
| jesuschrist | work on n9 | 21:22 |
| ieatlint | fuck yeah, java | 21:41 |
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| jesuschrist | well | 21:51 |
| jesuschrist | microemu works | 21:51 |
| jesuschrist | java me | 21:51 |
| jesuschrist | i think it works, but i dont know how to make it work :P | 21:51 |
| jesuschrist | would be helpful because microemu isnt designed for a virtual keyboard | 21:51 |
| jesuschrist | n950 users should have no problems | 21:51 |
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| ZogG | how can i use usb connection to share network with n9? | 22:33 |
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| ZogG | nevermind, my friend figured it out =) | 22:33 |
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| npm | ZogG: 'sudo modprobe fuse ; sshfs user@n950:/ /mnt/n950-user' | 22:58 |
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| npm | user@usb0:/ 4128448 1142420 2776316 30% /media/n950-user | 23:02 |
| npm | where 192.168.2.15usb0 usb0.usb0 | 23:03 |
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| ZogG | npm ifusb0 up before right? | 23:14 |
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| ZogG | Venemo sup maaan | 23:18 |
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| Venemo | hey ZogG, what's up? :) | 23:26 |
| ZogG | good | 23:26 |
| ZogG | think of the ways of getting n9 | 23:26 |
| ZogG | howdy? | 23:27 |
| Venemo | :) | 23:27 |
| Venemo | I'm hacking multitouch stuff for my app | 23:27 |
| ZogG | what app? | 23:28 |
| Venemo | Puzzle Master | 23:28 |
| Venemo | what else? :) | 23:28 |
| ZogG | as my n900 went broken | 23:29 |
| ZogG | i stopped following maemo chan tmo and my app developing =) | 23:29 |
| Venemo | well, I don't develop it for the N900 anymore either. | 23:29 |
| ZogG | my usb got off =\ | 23:30 |
| ZogG | you got n950 right? | 23:30 |
| Venemo | yes | 23:31 |
| ZogG | i even requested, but i don't think i would get it, if they would get to my name, but i was too far in the list =\ | 23:31 |
| Venemo | get an N9 :P | 23:31 |
| ZogG | too costy, as there no official sales here | 23:32 |
| Venemo | oh. | 23:32 |
| Venemo | sorry :( | 23:32 |
| ZogG | there are* | 23:32 |
| ZogG | it's motre than 1000$ for 16gb =) | 23:32 |
| ZogG | so i'm with iphone for now | 23:33 |
| Venemo | yeah, it's more than 1000$ here too. | 23:34 |
| Venemo | and pretty much everywhere. | 23:34 |
| ZogG | not for 16gb | 23:34 |
| Venemo | yes, for 16GB | 23:34 |
| ZogG | all over internet it's 700 for 16gb | 23:34 |
| Venemo | well, haven't checked | 23:35 |
| Venemo | N950 is superior, so why bother? | 23:35 |
| ZogG | don't make me wanna kill you =) | 23:37 |
| npm | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Wiki/Capture_movie_directly_from_N9/N950_screen | 23:38 |
| ZogG | Venemo GIVE IT ME | 23:38 |
| npm | ZogG: re "usb0 up before" ... yes, handset is in SDK mode so usb networking enabled | 23:38 |
| Venemo | ZogG :) | 23:38 |
| ZogG | Venemo i would buy n950 with n9 screen =) | 23:38 |
| Venemo | ZogG, N950 screen is bigger | 23:38 |
| ZogG | but quality and amoled | 23:39 |
| Venemo | N950 screen is da best LCD eva. | 23:39 |
| npm | n950 might be more fragile judging from people talking about cracked screens | 23:39 |
| ZogG | i like the thought of screen showing only watch and using battery only for that =) | 23:39 |
| Venemo | N950's weak point is the screen yes. it scratches way too easily | 23:41 |
| Venemo | or maybe it was just the fault of my previous one. | 23:42 |
| Venemo | the new one doesn't have any scratches yet on its screen, but the painting has began to come off on the side....... | 23:42 |
| ZogG | Venemo, it's unfair | 23:43 |
| ZogG | you already got second one and i none | 23:43 |
| Venemo | ZogG, well, the first one became faulty | 23:52 |
| Venemo | ZogG, so I sent it back... | 23:52 |
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