| * SpeedEvil wonders about flash on n9. | 00:03 | |
| GeneralAntilles | SpeedEvil, you notice that Harmattan is just completely useless for anything involving the web | 00:10 |
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| GeneralAntilles | No flash, no working HTML5 | 00:10 |
| GeneralAntilles | It can't even render gifs at an acceptable speed | 00:10 |
| GeneralAntilles | That WebKit browser is worse than the initial MicroB beta releases. | 00:10 |
| MohammadAG | I miss MicroB | 00:12 |
| SpeedEvil | GeneralAntilles: yeah | 00:13 |
| faenil_ | I have never seen anything as smooth as n950 default browser instead. | 00:13 |
| * SpeedEvil wonders what happens if you put a n900 / chroot on harm | 00:13 | |
| SpeedEvil | Can you convince microb to start? | 00:13 |
| MohammadAG | SpeedEvil, Softfp/hardfp | 00:13 |
| MohammadAG | it might work though | 00:13 |
| MohammadAG | can't we just write a Qt UI for a gecko engine? | 00:14 |
| lardman | set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point to libm | 00:14 |
| rm_work | i thought the browser had really good HTML5 compatibility scores? >_> | 00:14 |
| Lilltiger | it has quite ok scores | 00:16 |
| lardman | I also thought it worked better than microb, at least it renders at a useful speed | 00:16 |
| lardman | no idea about whether it ticks all the boxes, etc. | 00:17 |
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| MohammadAG | lardman, comparing with a 256MB 600MHz device? | 00:18 |
| lardman | true | 00:18 |
| Lilltiger | N9 got 255 points of 450, chrome in windows got 341 | 00:19 |
| lardman | well in which case compared to my Galaxy Tab it looses quite badly in terms of usability, but I wonder how much of that is the fact that the Tab gets mobile sites and has a larger screen | 00:19 |
| Lilltiger | n9 not supporting WebM is quite sad | 00:20 |
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| MohammadAG | lardman, the Tab has flash | 00:21 |
| lardman | yeah | 00:21 |
| lardman | but that is not a major usecase for me | 00:21 |
| Lilltiger | galaxy has worse html5 support then N9 | 00:22 |
| Lilltiger | ios5 is the only to beat armattan on mobile phones | 00:23 |
| Lilltiger | http://html5test.com/results-mobile.html | 00:24 |
| lardman | I'm not sure supporting html5 perfectly really matters to most people | 00:24 |
| lardman | speed and ease of use | 00:24 |
| Lilltiger | my N9 renders the sites quite fast | 00:25 |
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| lardman | sure, the N950 works reasonably well | 00:26 |
| Lilltiger | but sure, no flash, but I do not see that as a bad thing | 00:26 |
| lardman | not having flash is bad, as you may sometimes want to view a flash site, etc., but I agree that it's not a major factor | 00:27 |
| Lilltiger | flash is a major securityflaw.. | 00:27 |
| Lilltiger | and I never seen flash be in any way usable outside of windows | 00:28 |
| macmaN | any of you running fennec on n950? | 00:28 |
| Lilltiger | the *nix versions are horrible bad | 00:28 |
| macmaN | i have an allergy against my-meego.com. it just looks that bad. | 00:28 |
| Lilltiger | but right now what I do want on my N9 is XBMC | 00:29 |
| lardman | flash works on my Linux box, but as will all web stuff it's rather slow and I'm always worried it will crash. Perhaps that is just FF under Linux, certainly Windows is far more responsive | 00:29 |
| macmaN | Lilltiger: i think its likely to show up | 00:30 |
| Lilltiger | macmaN: probly, but i want it now! ;D | 00:30 |
| macmaN | patchwelcome :) | 00:30 |
| macmaN | so my girl is gonna get a n9 for her birthday in one week. its hidden in the apt in the dustiest places possible so she wont go there and find it. | 00:31 |
| Lilltiger | well it's debian.. I wich it was gentoo-based! | 00:32 |
| lardman | lol | 00:32 |
| macmaN | thank goodness for n950 otherwise i wouldnt be able to resist cracking it open already | 00:32 |
| macmaN | and probably brick it trying to meego ce and whatnot :> that wouldnt make for a good gift | 00:32 |
| lardman | Best to "brick" it now before she has all her contacts and messages on it ;) | 00:33 |
| Lilltiger | the aegis free kernel seems very intresting =) | 00:33 |
| macmaN | mhm true true | 00:34 |
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| macmaN | gonna install fennec9a1 on n950 | 00:41 |
| lardman | night all, qml has worn me out | 00:52 |
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| jpnurmi | what could be the reason that n9 is not running sshd even though developer mode is turned on? | 00:52 |
| macmaN | "is not running" ps aux doesnt show it? | 00:59 |
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| jpnurmi | macmaN: exactly | 01:04 |
| tomma | is it installed? | 01:04 |
| jpnurmi | it worked fine over the weekend :) | 01:05 |
| tomma | restart it? | 01:05 |
| jpnurmi | i just restarted the phone and still nope :( | 01:05 |
| tomma | sshd | 01:05 |
| tomma | restart sshd | 01:05 |
| jpnurmi | running it directly from /usr/sbin? there's no ssh in /etc/init.d | 01:06 |
| jpnurmi | hmm, says nothing and still not running | 01:07 |
| macmaN | what less /var/log/messages show | 01:08 |
| macmaN | what less /var/log/syslog show | 01:08 |
| jpnurmi | huh, can't find anything related to ssh | 01:11 |
| jpnurmi | i bet it would be still working if i didn't run out of battery today | 01:17 |
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| jpnurmi | so basically the problem is that qt creator says "Could not connect to host: Connection refused" | 01:18 |
| jpnurmi | is responds to ping, but cannot ssh | 01:18 |
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| macmaN | well run sshd manually with debug switch, see whether it can start u | 01:20 |
| macmaN | p | 01:20 |
| tomma | it seems like sshd is started by /etc/init/ssh.conf ... no idea who is responsible of calling it | 01:20 |
| jpnurmi | okay now we're getting somewhere :) | 01:22 |
| jpnurmi | bind to port 22 on 0.0.0.0 failed: permission denied. cannot bind any address | 01:22 |
| tomma | are you running it as root? | 01:23 |
| jpnurmi | yes | 01:23 |
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| DocScrutinizer | initctl status ssh | 03:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | netstat -t | 03:11 |
| DocScrutinizer | start ssh | 03:12 |
| DocScrutinizer | grep AllowUser /etc/ssh/ssh_config | 03:18 |
| DocScrutinizer | RM680-22-6_PR_RM680:~# ps ax|grep ssh | 03:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | 534 root /usr/sbin/sshd -D -4 | 03:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | 1833 root sshd: root@pts/0 | 03:19 |
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| dr_drsh | Hi | 04:33 |
| dr_drsh | I'm getting seg fault when I attempt to run this | 04:34 |
| dr_drsh | drive-qml "geo:30.051177,31.232672?action=driveTo" | 04:34 |
| dr_drsh | I'm running haramattan 1.201134-2_PR_RM680 | 04:36 |
| dr_drsh | Fixed!, this is caused by running drive-qml with the device in mass storage mode | 04:39 |
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| dr_drsh | exit | 04:52 |
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| iekku | morning | 06:18 |
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| * wmarone_ boggles at the expansys-usa prices for the N9 | 07:01 | |
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| ieatlint | wmarone_: looks about right | 07:04 |
| ieatlint | i found an aussie store that was a little cheaper, but foreign currency fees would probably make the difference | 07:05 |
| ieatlint | for thought though, http://www.personaldigital.com.au/p1720/Nokia-N9-64GB-(SIM-Free/Unlocked)-Australian-Stock/buy.html#axzz1b6RRYf5g ... $726.36AUD ($740USD) + around $45 shipping and likely a 3-4% foreign currency fee | 07:09 |
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| mece | what's the command for starting/stopping sshd? | 10:17 |
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| mece | Anyone? | 10:47 |
| mece | tried /usr/invoke-rc.d ssh stop but that seems to have no effect on it. | 10:48 |
| ieatlint | /etc/init/ssh.conf is what causes it to start | 10:54 |
| tabasko | hmm, I would like to know this as well | 10:54 |
| ieatlint | there might not be more to it than killing the process | 10:54 |
| tabasko | btw, is it safe to change root's password? | 10:55 |
| ieatlint | yes, and highly encouraged | 10:55 |
| ieatlint | lest you want anyone ssh'ing into your phone as root | 10:55 |
| tabasko | good, phone feels so dirty with default passwd | 10:55 |
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| mece | hehe indeed. | 10:59 |
| mece | anyway I need sshd open over 3g, which means I also want to shut it down when I don't use it... | 10:59 |
| mece | changing the port might be a good idea tho. | 10:59 |
| mece | a bit of security by obscurity | 10:59 |
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| Stskeeps | ssh is filtered over 3g afaik | 11:00 |
| Stskeeps | sshd, that is | 11:00 |
| ieatlint | regardless, many of us connect to wifi routinely | 11:00 |
| ieatlint | err, i misread, need to have read up more first :) | 11:01 |
| mece | Stskeeps, by who? | 11:01 |
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| Stskeeps | mece: by fefault setting | 11:01 |
| mece | Stskeeps, yeah. I changed that tho. | 11:01 |
| ieatlint | yes, /etc/ssh/sshd_config is set to only allow connections from 127.0.0.0/8, and the iana internal network reserved ranges | 11:02 |
| mece | so killing the process does not help | 11:03 |
| mece | any other ideas? | 11:03 |
| ieatlint | watchdog respawns it? | 11:04 |
| mece | no idea. something does | 11:04 |
| ieatlint | well there's always the method of toggling developer mode on/off | 11:05 |
| frals | mece: 'stop ssh'? | 11:05 |
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| ieatlint | looks like frals knows what he's talking about, oddly | 11:06 |
| mece | frals, wtf? | 11:06 |
| ieatlint | /sbin/stop, that is | 11:06 |
| mece | crazy! | 11:06 |
| mece | frals, thanks :D | 11:07 |
| frals | mece: np | 11:07 |
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| mece | frals, got a good idea how I allow connection over 3g? | 11:09 |
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| tabasko | how I can find out my ip? There is no ifconfig? :o | 11:10 |
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| mece | /sbin/ifconfig | 11:10 |
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| tabasko | yeah, should have triend to run find before asking stupid | 11:11 |
| frals | mece: disable the iptables line in /etc/network/if-up.d/ | 11:11 |
| frals | /etc/network/if-up.d/drop_gprs_to_sshd even | 11:11 |
| frals | or just chmod -x the file, hopefully aegis doesnt protect it :D | 11:12 |
| frals | "protect" | 11:12 |
| mece | gah so i might brick the fracking thing by doing this? | 11:12 |
| frals | uh | 11:13 |
| frals | dont modify the file | 11:13 |
| frals | :D | 11:13 |
| frals | cat /var/lib/aegis/refhashlist|grep drop_gprs | 11:13 |
| frals | i wonder if aegis cares if the permissions change | 11:14 |
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| frals | id try it, but im slightly ahead of public releases and first thing i do is disable that cra^H^H^Hnice aegis | 11:15 |
| ieatlint | the internal releases let you disable aegis? | 11:16 |
| frals | nah | 11:17 |
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| frals | its about the hardware | 11:17 |
| ieatlint | ah, the internal devices allow it? | 11:17 |
| frals | something like that | 11:17 |
| mece | well i did sh /etc/network/if-up.d/drop_gprs_to_sshd | 11:17 |
| mece | an nothing happened. | 11:17 |
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| mece | and I still can't login | 11:20 |
| mece | :/ | 11:20 |
| mece | erm ok heh | 11:22 |
| frals | mece: well if the rule is there already i guess you need to flush iptables | 11:22 |
| frals | ... i guess that would be the aegis friendly way of doing it instead of messing with the drop_gprs script... assuming root is allowed to mess with iptables :( | 11:23 |
| ieatlint | i looked at that... couldn't get iptables to access the filter table | 11:23 |
| ieatlint | kept giving permissions errors | 11:23 |
| * frals REALLY likes aegis... no, really.... | 11:23 | |
| mece | frals, well doesn't the script actually do the opposite of what I wanted? | 11:23 |
| ieatlint | and aegis stops "root" | 11:23 |
| frals | mece: yes, the script adds the rule, thats why i said modify it :) | 11:23 |
| mece | heh.. | 11:23 |
| mece | ok that's not safe now is it. | 11:24 |
| frals | mece: chmod -x the file so its not executed, but aegis might have say about that | 11:24 |
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| mece | hmm only port 22 tho. perhaps if I change the port of the server instead. | 11:24 |
| frals | mece: or rename gprs0 to gprs1 ;o | 11:24 |
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| ieatlint | changing port is probably safer :P | 11:25 |
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| ieatlint | and probably a better idea anyway | 11:25 |
| mece | port worked | 11:25 |
| frals | yeah, just changing the port is probably easiest | 11:25 |
| frals | :D | 11:25 |
| mece | \o/ I' | 11:25 |
| mece | m in | 11:25 |
| mece | :9 | 11:26 |
| mece | :) | 11:26 |
| mece | I think I'll post this in infodump thread | 11:26 |
| ieatlint | now you can stalk whomever has that phone | 11:26 |
| mece | ieatlint, um? | 11:28 |
| frals | ieatlint: assuming the ip doesnt change eh? ;) | 11:28 |
| ieatlint | it's how i keep my girl in line | 11:28 |
| frals | i was actually planning to set up my n900 to always open a reverse tunnel to my server whenever it went online | 11:28 |
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| frals | but i had this feeling about powerconsumption... ;( | 11:29 |
| ieatlint | well ssh itself doesn't have a keepalive | 11:29 |
| ieatlint | so in theory it wouldn't take any, but the connection may drop without either end knowing | 11:29 |
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| petteri | all those brute force attacs to hack your phone will kill the battery :) | 11:31 |
| mece | petteri, well changing the port really helps that. | 11:34 |
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| petteri | if i look at my box I see that the hackers first map the ports and then attac the ssh port | 11:35 |
| ieatlint | assuming you connect from known ips, you might still want to modify the sshd_config to only allow connections from them | 11:35 |
| ieatlint | petteri: that's true for targeted attacks | 11:35 |
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| ieatlint | someone monitoring ips for vulnerable hosts isn't going to waste time scanning all ports | 11:36 |
| mece | petteri, well I had thousands of attacks on my box, and then I changed the port and I've had 0 attacks since then. 0. That's not many. | 11:36 |
| ieatlint | they'll hit the known ones and move on | 11:36 |
| mece | thousands daily I mean. | 11:36 |
| mece | that's 0 attacks in 4 months. | 11:36 |
| petteri | suft to one suspicous site with linux on the useragent and you will be lost | 11:36 |
| petteri | better put public key auth to sshd if you are going to use ti | 11:37 |
| petteri | it | 11:37 |
| mece | what are we talking about? | 11:37 |
| ieatlint | shoes, i think | 11:37 |
| mece | i believe so. | 11:37 |
| ieatlint | i'm wearing black ones | 11:37 |
| mece | Mine are black but have some white details | 11:37 |
| djszapi | sorry, is this the harmattan channel ? :) | 11:37 |
| mece | yep. My shoes are good for the dry harmattan winds. How about yours? | 11:38 |
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| mece | oh my. | 11:38 |
| ieatlint | dunno, might get sand in mine | 11:38 |
| mece | hm | 11:38 |
| mece | anyway | 11:39 |
| mece | changing the port allows you to connect via 3g without messing about with the aegis protected script. | 11:39 |
| mece | and yes petteri, it's not completely safe, but then again nothing is. And I have sshd off unless I need to use it. | 11:40 |
| petteri | i am just saying that you should not have root password ssh login on enabled in public internet | 11:41 |
| mece | I don't have that | 11:41 |
| mece | but user can do devel-su so it's pretty much the same, security wise. Just a bit more obscurity. | 11:41 |
| petteri | public key auth adds security, i would use that if i had to have the sshd running | 11:42 |
| mece | yeah I use that on my N900, but I haven't had time to set it up on N950 | 11:42 |
| mece | Perhaps I should make a little app that stops/starts the sshd so I wouldn't have to go into xterm to do it. | 11:44 |
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| DocScrutinizer | [2011-10-18 09:17:53] <mece> what's the command for starting/stopping sshd? [2011-10-18 02:12:11] <DocScrutinizer> start ssh | 12:39 |
| DocScrutinizer | [2011-10-18 09:59:38] <mece> anyway I need sshd open over 3g, which means I also want to shut it down when I don't use it... [2011-10-18 02:18:04] <DocScrutinizer> grep AllowUser /etc/ssh/ssh_config | 12:40 |
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| mece | DocScrutinizer, there was also the script that drops calls to port 22 over gprs | 12:45 |
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| mece | DocScrutinizer, anyway I just changed the port to work past that. | 12:48 |
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| * RST38h yawns, moos at the moon | 12:50 | |
| mece | what's up RST38h? | 12:50 |
| RST38h | Not much Maemo related. Have to update my apps, will probably work on them this week | 12:51 |
| * RST38h still wonders if he can use SPARQL QtComponent with the latest firmware update | 12:51 | |
| RST38h | Would be nice to get file lists from the tracker db | 12:52 |
| mece | RST38h, is that prevented somehow? | 12:52 |
| radiofree | RT38h : you mean the qml bindings? | 12:52 |
| RST38h | mece: in the first firmware version, loadig component failed due to missing parts | 12:53 |
| RST38h | radio: yes | 12:53 |
| radiofree | which version is in the new firmware update? | 12:54 |
| radiofree | hopefully you'll have 0.0.30 now | 12:54 |
| radiofree | the 0.2.x releases have a brand new set of qml bindings, you'll be able to do things like "property SparqlConnection connection : SparqlConnection { ....} ", "connection.selectQuery(foo)" etc.. | 12:55 |
| radiofree | but if you have 0.0.30 you will be able to use the SparqlListModel {} now | 12:56 |
| RST38h | I need an example that would query SPQRQL for files of given mime type using SparqlListModel | 12:57 |
| RST38h | So far, I have only seen one SparqlListModel example online | 12:57 |
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| radiofree | RST38h: so what, like all images in a folder? | 13:01 |
| radiofree | RST38h: I think it might be SparqlResultsList in the old version? | 13:02 |
| radiofree | yes, 0.0.30 (or maybe it got fixed in 0.0.28, as long as you have that it should be ok) it's SparqlResultsList you want to use | 13:02 |
| Jaffa | Oooh, a good price: http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/5794/nokia-n9-64gb--sim-free-unlocked--black- | 13:03 |
| RST38h | radiofree: Look, there are so many versions and they change so fast and have so little documentation that I do not really want to know how it was called | 13:03 |
| RST38h | Just need an example | 13:03 |
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| radiofree | there's not need to get tetchy, I'm just trying to nail down what you will/won't be able to do | 13:03 |
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| RST38h | That I can compile and run with the dev firmware we have got in N950s | 13:04 |
| radiofree | what does apt-cache showpkg libqtsparql0 say? | 13:04 |
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| RST38h | radio; no idea, at work right now, away from the device | 13:04 |
| RST38h | but will know tonight | 13:04 |
| radiofree | you could, for example, get all the paths for all files in /home/user/MyDocs/foo with something like | 13:04 |
| radiofree | SELECT ?url WHERE { ?u a nfo:FileDataObject ; nie:url ?url . FILTER (fn:starts-with (?url, "file:///home/user/MyDocs/foo/")) } | 13:05 |
| radiofree | if you wanted just the images, you could use ?u a nfo:Image instead | 13:05 |
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| faenil | good morning guys! :) | 13:06 |
| * RST38h writing down | 13:07 | |
| hiemanshu | Morning | 13:07 |
| radiofree | so then in qml you would do model: SparqlResultsList { options: SparqlConnectionOptions { driverName: "QTRACKER_DIRECT" } query : "your query" } | 13:07 |
| hiemanshu | faenil: PM | 13:07 |
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| faenil | hiemanshu: where? XD | 13:07 |
| RST38h | radio: Actually got my own mime type (not image) how do I do that? | 13:07 |
| radiofree | RT38h: then, in your delegate you could do Text : { text: "Path = " + url } | 13:07 |
| radiofree | you could filter on the nie#mimeType | 13:09 |
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| RST38h | sahaa! | 13:09 |
| RST38h | radio: thanks! | 13:10 |
| radiofree | probably a useful command would be tracker-sparql -q "select * { <the uuid of the file> ?o ?p }", it will display the nie:mimeType there (along with everything else indexed about the file) | 13:10 |
| radiofree | i'll build a concrete example later (based on whatever version you have) | 13:12 |
| radiofree | depending on the version you have, you might be able to use a QSparqlQueryModel and use setContextProperty. Which, if you want to do other queries with the connection, might be more useful | 13:14 |
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| djszapi | mpr ping | 13:28 |
| djszapi | can you paste the content of the ssu source file ? | 13:28 |
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| snowpong | it's possible to import contacts into the n9 via gmail account right? | 14:24 |
| w00t | create an mfe account, using server m.google.com | 14:26 |
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| gri | spenap, so your qml ui and mtf code both start in landscape and you can rotate? | 14:54 |
| spenap | yes, I think I know what's the problem: somehow the central widget doesn't get the initial rotation state | 14:55 |
| spenap | so if you start it landscape, it is in the right orientation, and rotates as it should after that | 14:55 |
| spenap | but, if you start in portrait mode, it is rotated 90º, (although it "knows" that it's portrait | 14:55 |
| spenap | so further rotations seems to screw it | 14:56 |
| gri | yes, that's what I've seen | 14:56 |
| gri | my app took 50% of the screen | 14:56 |
| spenap | yes | 14:56 |
| spenap | then it probably works fine in the other orientation | 14:56 |
| spenap | I will investigate it, but I think I know how to fix it | 14:56 |
| gri | what worked was to set the mtf window to landscape and leave the qml as it was - but then the virtual keyboard will appear in landscape if your gui is portrait :D | 14:57 |
| spenap | yeah, what we need to do is to forward the orientation event to the centralwidget, I'd say | 14:58 |
| spenap | I'm trying it | 14:58 |
| gri | also it did not help me with my reparenting problem of the contacts-chooser - the behavior is still the same. Appearing works fine, closing results in seeing the switcher instead of the application again | 14:58 |
| gri | wonder what's the right way ? for selecting contacts with harmattan ui | 14:59 |
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| snowpong | w00t: thanks | 15:01 |
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| snowpong | another thing, is the MEEGO_EDITION_HARMATTAN define still not in any Qt SDK releases and we need to do the extra .pro file hacks to define it? | 15:02 |
| Hq` | it works with the latest sdk, just include "qplatformdefs.h" | 15:04 |
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| snowpong | Hq`: excellent, thanks | 15:08 |
| CepiPerez | hello all | 15:09 |
| Hq` | has anyone successfully used QFeedbackEffect::playThemeEffect ? | 15:12 |
| Hq` | nothing seems to happen... | 15:12 |
| Hq` | (on N9) | 15:13 |
| Milhouse | Completely OT - sorry for that - but this is quite amazing! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws6AAhTw7RA :) | 15:15 |
| Stskeeps | Milhouse: hoverboard time! | 15:16 |
| Milhouse | Indeed, me WANT! :) | 15:17 |
| mece | Milhouse, :) pretty cool | 15:18 |
| mece | you need some good warm shoes... :D | 15:18 |
| Milhouse | pretty cool? PRETTY cool?! :) | 15:18 |
| Milhouse | tough crowd! | 15:18 |
| mece | well it was not exactly news | 15:18 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyOtIsnG71U&feature=related | 15:19 |
| Milhouse | as demonstrations go of superconductivity, it's not bad | 15:19 |
| mece | but this is a really good demonsration | 15:19 |
| mece | yeah | 15:19 |
| Stskeeps | more interestingily is if you can measure the weight of the disc on top | 15:20 |
| mece | hm | 15:20 |
| Stskeeps | i'm thinking moving boxes.. | 15:20 |
| mece | mmhm | 15:20 |
| mece | I want stuff superconducting while warm. | 15:21 |
| mece | then I'll be amazed | 15:21 |
| Milhouse | I think they're getting there - the fact they're touching that disc without gloves suggests it's not that cold | 15:22 |
| Milhouse | what's on top, dry ice? | 15:22 |
| mece | What do I say when people ask what Nemo is? | 15:23 |
| Stskeeps | mece: prolly wrong channel | 15:23 |
| mece | yes oops | 15:24 |
| mece | :) | 15:24 |
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| DocScrutinizer | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superconductor#High-temperature_superconductivity | 15:41 |
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| mece | I'm having a hard time finding basic notification example (Notifications as in vibration, getting that little green flag up there and adding stuff to the feed view). What is that thing even called? | 16:22 |
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| hiemanshu | mece: MNotifications | 16:23 |
| mece | hiemanshu, ah, no Qt class for that huh? | 16:24 |
| hiemanshu | nope, its either that, or using DBus calls to add to event feed | 16:24 |
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| mece | Oh well, I'm satisfied with MNotifications I suppose. Thanks :) | 16:24 |
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| mece | hiemanshu, do you know any open source apps that use notifications, that I could look at as an example? | 16:34 |
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| hiemanshu | mece: the WidgetGallery does it | 16:35 |
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| mece | sweet! | 16:36 |
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| sivang | can harmattan play ogg , does anybody know? | 16:42 |
| DocScrutinizer | iirc it's in the product specs, yes | 16:43 |
| sivang | cool, thanks | 16:43 |
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| Corsac | and can it do gapless playback? | 16:49 |
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| hiemanshu | IIRC yes | 16:51 |
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| snowpong | any hdmi output for n9 or n950? does it support MHL cables or something? | 17:18 |
| leinir | no hdmi output, unfortunately... only the old rgb thing (just use the cable from your n900) | 17:21 |
| rantom | Can I just use "restore device" and "clean device" from the N950? | 17:23 |
| rantom | Or should I rather flash it with Beta2 fw? | 17:23 |
| snowpong | leinir: ok thanks | 17:30 |
| Arkenoi | hmm, n9 found by local bt search.. wonder who bought it in our office | 17:38 |
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| Khertan_n950 | Hi ! | 18:52 |
| Khertan_n950 | Someone know if there is a bug related to position fixed and harmattan browser ? | 18:52 |
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| Khertan_n950 | i can t understand why my toolbar did nt stay on the bottom when scrolling | 18:52 |
| Khertan_n950 | http://khertan.net/khtnotes click on settings button and you ll see what i mean | 18:53 |
| Khertan_n950 | (this works on other browser (also fennec)) | 18:53 |
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| radiofree | Khertan_n950: I don't know about that specific problem, but on firefox the bottom of the note can be hidden by the toolbar | 18:56 |
| Khertan_n950 | ~ping | 18:56 |
| infobot | ~pong | 18:56 |
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| Khertan_n950 | radiofree: yeah i see that too ... | 19:01 |
| Khertan_n950 | radiofree, thx | 19:01 |
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| Khertan_n950 | i really need to found a way which works on all browser to put that toolbar | 19:03 |
| Khertan_n950 | it s a pain to made things working everywhere | 19:03 |
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| * Arkenoi got similar IM database corruption problems like i encountered on n900 :-( | 19:13 | |
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| Velmont | Hrmf. I've used 2 days. Still can't figure out how to unlock my N9. I have the code, I just can't input it because I'm not able to type "w" on the keypa.d | 19:47 |
| Velmont | Do anyone know how to do that? | 19:47 |
| Velmont | #pw+12341234# | 19:47 |
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| freemangordon | Stskeeps ping | 19:48 |
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| Lilltiger | Velmont: no "w", what kinda N9 is that.. dont you have qwerty? | 20:02 |
| frals | Velmont: unlock what exactly? | 20:02 |
| frals | ah, right, in the dialer i guess | 20:04 |
| Stskeeps | freemangordon: pong | 20:05 |
| freemangordon | Stskeeps hi | 20:11 |
| freemangordon | need a little help :D | 20:11 |
| Velmont | frals, Lilltiger: Yup, in the dialer. | 20:11 |
| freemangordon | Any chance you to help with getting gst-dsp source code (the one in Harmattan) | 20:12 |
| freemangordon | Felipe Contreras is the author | 20:12 |
| Velmont | Everyone says, start the N9 without sim-card, it will ask you if you want to start it without SIM-card (IT DOESN'T, it just starts anyway). -- Then they say, write in #pw+12341234+# --- but no, there's no way to input that. And in the normal dialer, I can't input "w". | 20:12 |
| gri | Velmont, I can't even enter chars with the hardware keyboard of the n950 | 20:12 |
| Velmont | I even tried copy/pasting #pw+ in, but it's only #p+ when I do it. | 20:12 |
| Velmont | Telenor fooled me. They gave me the unlock code, but it's of no use if I can't input it :P | 20:13 |
| gri | what's the unlock code for? | 20:14 |
| frals | Velmont: you could try emailing tel:#pw+12341234# to yourself and hope fenix gives you a quicklink to it | 20:14 |
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| frals | Velmont: or adding a contact with that number | 20:15 |
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| frals | ok contact approach didnt work | 20:15 |
| Velmont | gri: It's a SIM-lock. | 20:15 |
| Velmont | gri: I can only use Telenor SIM-cards in the phone. But I've got an unlock code so that I can use another operator for it. | 20:16 |
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| gri | ah ok, didn't know the n9 can be sim-locked | 20:16 |
| frals | Velmont: uh, are you sure it is actually sim-locked atm? i.e. did you try with another sim? | 20:17 |
| Velmont | frals: Yup. Many times. :-) | 20:17 |
| Velmont | I thought that might trigger a "do you want to try to unlock it" feature, but alas, no. | 20:17 |
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| frals | guess you tried it without the w as well | 20:19 |
| Velmont | Yep. :-) And I didn't really try for 2 days, but I have had the code for a full 24 hours and *still* haven't been able to crack the code. | 20:21 |
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| tomma | Velmont, have you tried calling with some other way than dialer? | 20:24 |
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| frals | Velmont: send a email to yourself with the string: tel:#pw+12341234# | 20:28 |
| * w00t facepalms | 20:29 | |
| Velmont | frals: I'll try but I don't think it'll work because it obviously seems to sanitize its input very well. | 20:36 |
| frals | Velmont: worked here | 20:37 |
| Velmont | frals: OK, worth a shot. As long as I don't lock it forever :p | 20:37 |
| frals | worked here as in it would start the call to a number containing 'w' | 20:38 |
| * lardman looks at pretty primary and secondary colours, and while only cursing anchors a little, feels reasonably happy | 20:38 | |
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| Stskeeps | freemangordon: it is oss, google for it | 20:41 |
| Velmont | frals: Nops, the email client hilight: tel:#pw{+12341234}+4# | 20:42 |
| frals | Velmont: and pressing on it doesnt work to launch a contact card? | 20:42 |
| Velmont | frals: Yes it does, but with +12341234 as phone number. | 20:43 |
| frals | oh | 20:43 |
| Velmont | So none of the control codes. | 20:43 |
| freemangordon | Stskeeps - the code which is available on internet is not the same as in Harmattan | 20:43 |
| frals | well that sucks | 20:43 |
| lardman | QML text or label or whatever, is it possible to rotate text? | 20:43 |
| frals | good news is it sucks less in PR1.1 i guess... since i get everything including tel: highlighted | 20:44 |
| Velmont | frals: Hehe. -- I've also sent an email asking, but they've always 2-5 days turnaround time on that... :-) | 20:44 |
| Velmont | frals: PR1.1 is what? I'm running 1.0? | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | freemangordon: how can you tell? | 20:44 |
| freemangordon | because of the package version | 20:45 |
| frals | Velmont: next update, i assume.. and yes, if you dont work at nokia id say you use 1.0 | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | freemangordon: what version harmattan has? | 20:45 |
| Velmont | I work at Opera Software, so I've got a unreleased build of that on it, -- but no, it doesn't help me much :) | 20:46 |
| freemangordon | gstreamer0.10-dsp-0.9.0-6+0m6 | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | freemangordon: and what is out in public? | 20:47 |
| freemangordon | lots of stuff, but not that | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | no, the version | 20:48 |
| freemangordon | nothing | 20:48 |
| freemangordon | besides the one on google code | 20:48 |
| Stskeeps | ask me in 25 mins | 20:48 |
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| freemangordon | and maemo version, which is an year old | 20:49 |
| freemangordon | ok | 20:49 |
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| frals | Velmont: you could try going to settings -> device -> sim-card or smth like that, but im not sure if it works | 20:54 |
| Velmont | frals: Have tried that as well ;-) | 20:55 |
| frals | i queried you btw, in case you missed it | 20:55 |
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| Stskeeps | freemangordon: https://github.com/felipec/gst-dsp/tags | 21:02 |
| Stskeeps | freemangordon: the -6 part is packaging | 21:02 |
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| tomma | Velmont, try qdbus com.nokia.call-ui /Call Com.Nokia.Telephony.CallUi.Call "" "#pw+12341234#" | 21:08 |
| tomma | i have no idea if that works... | 21:08 |
| frals | tomma: it doesnt, i tried :< | 21:08 |
| frals | or actually, i tried qdbus com.nokia.telephony.callhistory /callhistory com.noki | 21:09 |
| frals | a.telephony.callhistory.dialer #pw+12341234# | 21:09 |
| frals | getting access denied by dbus to .call-ui thou ;) | 21:09 |
| tomma | ok seems like that my line gives some weird error notification =) | 21:09 |
| frals | ah yeah works from develsh... "Call disconnected" | 21:10 |
| freemangordon | Stskeeps that is the same as on google code, but that is not what is in Harmattan, just trust me on that. Harmattan gst-dsp has HD codecs support, while that does not. | 21:11 |
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| tomma | frals, looks like your line does open dialer fine but filter that "w" out =) | 21:12 |
| Stskeeps | freemangordon: /me goes check | 21:13 |
| Stskeeps | freemangordon: send felipe an email and ask what the situation is | 21:17 |
| freemangordon_ | both me and pali already done that nearly a month ago, no anser | 21:19 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 21:19 |
| Stskeeps | ooh, my provider has nokia n9 | 21:20 |
| freemangordon_ | :-D for your wife ? | 21:21 |
| Stskeeps | no, for myself, i don't own a n9 | 21:21 |
| Stskeeps | and n950 isn't working for me as a daily telephone | 21:21 |
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| freemangordon_ | aah ok. | 21:21 |
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| lardman | Stskeeps: why's it not working? | 21:49 |
| lardman | and why would the N9 be better? | 21:49 |
| Stskeeps | why what not? | 21:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:51 |
| Stskeeps | lardman: oh - the signal issues | 21:51 |
| lardman | oh, poor signal strenght? | 21:51 |
| Stskeeps | lardman: i'm getting so bad reception on n950 that it's unusable for me as the primary function is to be usable when i'm elsewhere in poland, as well as constantly dropping out | 21:51 |
| Stskeeps | ie, it's managed to cure me of irc addiction while mobile and that's a bad sign | 21:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:52 |
| lardman | hmm, mine is pretty poor, but I just assumed that was the network being bad | 21:52 |
| lardman | lol | 21:52 |
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| lardman | I'd only ever be using much mobile stuff sat on the west coast train line up to Birmingham, and that has chronic Vodafone coverage anyway | 21:52 |
| * lardman goes back to his QML feeling vaguely pleased at the pretty colours | 21:54 | |
| lardman | shame I have to get rid of those for the final ui ;) | 21:54 |
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| lardman | nevertheless, it's nice to be back writing the C++ backend :) | 21:58 |
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| merlin1991 | tbh n9 feels like it gets better reception than n900, at least for me | 22:26 |
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| rafael2k_ | hi there people, my N950 arrived!!! | 22:26 |
| rafael2k_ | ; )) | 22:26 |
| SpeedEvil | Congrats. | 22:26 |
| merlin1991 | rafael2k_: welcome to the club :) (wich I'm not part of) | 22:27 |
| rafael2k_ | let me ask you one thing, how to install the toolchain in the cellphone itself? | 22:27 |
| rafael2k_ | I don't like to cross compile things | 22:27 |
| rafael2k_ | ; ) | 22:27 |
| rafael2k_ | merlin1991: SpeedEvil: thanks! | 22:27 |
| * artemma starts getting the feeling that N950s just weren't verified real hard at the factory production line - so many quite different impressions about its GPS, GSM, etc | 22:28 | |
| rafael2k_ | in my N900 it was just a matter of add the repos and voila | 22:28 |
| Stskeeps | artemma: i simply think there wasn't a lot of tuning | 22:28 |
| artemma | rafael2k_: congrats! | 22:28 |
| rafael2k_ | ; ) | 22:29 |
| artemma | Stskeeps: it looks like people are having different hardware issues, not the same. I hope not every single device is fine tuned at the end of the factory line :) | 22:29 |
| rafael2k_ | any news on FM listening people? | 22:30 |
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| lardman | I was just wondering about FM reception the other day | 22:46 |
| rafael2k_ | I could write a software, but I need to know how to do the low level FM capture | 22:47 |
| lardman | I've got a vertical QML ListView in a rectangle at the bottom of my screen and when I scroll it up it moves into the neighbouring rectangle; any ways to avoid this? | 22:47 |
| lardman | rafael2k_: is there a kernel driver for the hw? | 22:48 |
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| lardman | check dmesg | 22:48 |
| lardman | then it should just be a case of looking to see what the kernel driver expects and opening the appropriate dev file | 22:48 |
| rafael2k_ | lardman: I hope so, I read sometime ago of problems with the driver | 22:49 |
| rafael2k_ | But I wasn't with the N950 to test.. | 22:50 |
| lardman | interesting, I've not had any time to mess about with listening to the radio, but was thinking about it yesterday while doing some soldering listening to music | 22:51 |
| lardman | we were talking about the Tab yesterday, the N950 certainly has it beaten in quality of A2DP/SBC Bluetooth stereo audio | 22:52 |
| rafael2k_ | http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=3902 | 22:52 |
| * lardman takes a look | 22:52 | |
| lardman | looks like quite a bit of work has been done there | 22:55 |
| rafael2k_ | btw, if someone finds a way to install the toolchain in the harmattan itself, let me know | 22:55 |
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| lardman | I would say talk to lcuk, he was always very keen to build on device... :( | 22:56 |
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| rafael2k_ | thanks! | 23:01 |
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| * Arkenoi gets damn poor reception as well | 23:22 | |
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