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| MohammadAG | kswap0 making my N950 unusable | 00:59 |
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| macmaN | whodatiz | 01:00 |
| MohammadAG | music skips a lot, UI lags | 01:00 |
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| macmaN | i havent experienced music skipping at all | 01:03 |
| macmaN | and thats one of my primary use cases for the thing | 01:03 |
| MohammadAG | macmaN, neither have I, till this thing started overheating | 01:04 |
| MohammadAG | already contacted Nokia for a replacement, but i can't ship it till tuesday | 01:05 |
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| javispedro | MohammadAG: in a few hours it will be trying to kill you | 01:11 |
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| MohammadAG | i think that part already passed | 01:21 |
| MohammadAG | anyway, off to bed, night | 01:22 |
| SpeedEvil | MohammadAG: Tried flsahing? | 01:24 |
| ieatlint | it doesn't want to kill you, instead you'll leave your phone plugged into your laptop as you go to bed, and wake up to find windows installed | 01:50 |
| lkslawek | that could be expected :> | 01:53 |
| ieatlint | anyone else use this on harmattan successfully? https://garage.maemo.org/projects/googlelatitude/ | 01:55 |
| javispedro | dammit, I wanted to interrogate MAG about qmafw =) | 02:36 |
| GeneralAntilles | pewpew | 03:33 |
| * SpeedEvil notes GeneralAntilles has turned into a skunk. | 03:34 | |
| * GeneralAntilles shoots lasers at SpeedEvil. | 03:38 | |
| * javispedro teases GeneralAntilles with his metawatch that already vibrates during a incoming call | 03:39 | |
| * javispedro raises laser-proof mirror shield | 03:40 | |
| GeneralAntilles | AwEsOmE! | 03:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | javispedro, reading your Aegis post made me sad for the death of the platform | 03:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | and losing things. | 03:40 |
| javispedro | the sad part is the silence | 03:42 |
| javispedro | and losing lcuk :( | 03:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yes | 03:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | Sad, sad sad | 03:44 |
| GeneralAntilles | They have forced promoted tweets now? | 03:50 |
| GeneralAntilles | Is Twitter really that hard-up for cash? | 03:50 |
| javispedro | forced promoted tweets? :S | 03:51 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yeah, there was a promoted Tweet from Moen in my Timeline. | 03:52 |
| GeneralAntilles | I don't follow Moen and nobody I followed retweeted it | 03:52 |
| GeneralAntilles | It was "Promoted" | 03:52 |
| SpeedEvil | A hell of a lot of depressing things recently. | 03:55 |
| SpeedEvil | The windows secure boot. | 03:55 |
| javispedro | the entire windows 8 is depressing | 03:56 |
| SpeedEvil | EU extending copyright terms again. | 03:56 |
| SpeedEvil | Patent reform basically failing in the US. | 03:56 |
| javispedro | instead of wp7 being replaced, wp7 will replace =) | 03:56 |
| SpeedEvil | Well - and yes - the on topic things. | 03:56 |
| GeneralAntilles | SpeedEvil, the patent reform was bullshit anyway. | 03:57 |
| SpeedEvil | GeneralAntilles: yes. | 03:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | Mostly penned by huge patent portfolio holders. | 03:58 |
| SpeedEvil | At one point it looked hopeful. | 03:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | Patent law as it was originally written is what needs to be used. | 03:58 |
| SpeedEvil | And copyright. | 03:58 |
| SpeedEvil | 'for a limited term' | 03:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yes | 03:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | Originally written | 03:58 |
| GeneralAntilles | Before Disney started screwing with it. | 03:59 |
| SpeedEvil | Then of course there is the pure joy of legislatures worldwide being pressured by the US to conform to ridiculous copyright standards. | 04:00 |
| SpeedEvil | Without national public oversight. | 04:00 |
| GeneralAntilles | Funny, most of government in the US would work pretty well as originally written. | 04:00 |
| GeneralAntilles | WORLD GOVERNMENT | 04:00 |
| SpeedEvil | 'two thirds of a white man' | 04:00 |
| GeneralAntilles | WE WANT MOAR | 04:00 |
| SpeedEvil | Or was it one. | 04:00 |
| GeneralAntilles | Meh | 04:00 |
| GeneralAntilles | It's not as exciting as most history books make it | 04:01 |
| berndhs | three fifth I think it was | 04:01 |
| GeneralAntilles | The issue was actually northern states wanting the southern ones to have less voting power. | 04:01 |
| SpeedEvil | I know. | 04:01 |
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| GeneralAntilles | Which is why I said /most/, not /all/. | 04:01 |
| SpeedEvil | A hell of a lot of things get vastly simplified by the 'winners' | 04:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | Yes. | 04:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: you might be interested to know about N950 delivered 5V VBUS a few hours ago | 04:02 |
| SpeedEvil | :) | 04:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | Like the US Civil War. | 04:02 |
| SpeedEvil | USB-Cupwarmer-enabler | 04:02 |
| GeneralAntilles | DocScrutinizer, orly? | 04:02 |
| SpeedEvil | GeneralAntilles: It was all about the tea! | 04:02 |
| * GeneralAntilles loves this community. | 04:02 | |
| SpeedEvil | GeneralAntilles: Americans really hate tea. That's why they left the empire. | 04:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | SpeedEvil, well, that it's simplified to being "about slavery" when it was vastly more complex than that. | 04:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | No, we just hate /British/ tea. | 04:03 |
| SpeedEvil | You can tell it to seven year olds, and they can understand it. | 04:03 |
| GeneralAntilles | Sweet tea is wonderful. :P | 04:03 |
| javispedro | SpeedEvil: I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter | 04:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1094568&postcount=49 | 04:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | GeneralAntilles: first step direction USB hostmode | 04:04 |
| SpeedEvil | javispedro: http://b3ta.com/questions/fixtheworld/post1366190#answers-post-1366242 | 04:04 |
| SpeedEvil | (not strictly my views, but I found it amusing) | 04:04 |
| GeneralAntilles | SpeedEvil, I find UKers talking about effectively governing yourself incredibly ironic. :P | 04:05 |
| SpeedEvil | GeneralAntilles: Indeed. | 04:05 |
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| SpeedEvil | GeneralAntilles: The current government is ... a hell of a lot of hot air, and not much more. | 04:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | Only people who vote here are authoritarian assholes | 04:06 |
| SpeedEvil | Also - 'cuts are good for you' | 04:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | the rest of the electorate is filled with morons. | 04:06 |
| GeneralAntilles | For some reason they all want the government to have as much power as possible | 04:07 |
| GeneralAntilles | Despite repeated demonstrations of its fallibility. | 04:07 |
| SpeedEvil | http://www.mauve.plus.com/bread.png | 04:08 |
| SpeedEvil | One I made earlier. | 04:08 |
| SpeedEvil | There seem to be no fake n9s on ebay | 04:11 |
| javispedro | noone can fake aegis! | 04:13 |
| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: which token is needed to access /sys/*/i2c? And will this token be available? | 04:15 |
| SpeedEvil | Logically, that's a token that should never ever be available | 04:16 |
| SpeedEvil | As there is stuff you can actually bork. | 04:16 |
| javispedro | this is aegis you're talking about | 04:16 |
| DocScrutinizer | thought as much | 04:16 |
| SpeedEvil | (set voltage regulators too high for the chips) | 04:16 |
| SpeedEvil | (I have no idea of the actual security) | 04:17 |
| javispedro | pft | 04:19 |
| javispedro | I think they are wide open | 04:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | wut? | 04:19 |
| SpeedEvil | I could actually believe that. | 04:19 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure, you don't need to lock /sys to protect IP and DRM | 04:20 |
| javispedro | DocScrutinizer: you've not read the parts where I complain that the current aegis policy is totally inadequate and allows virtually everything save for pissing devs | 04:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah sure | 04:21 |
| javispedro | DocScrutinizer: try echo 1 > /sys/devices/platform/i2c_omap.2/i2c-2/2-004b/disable_ts | 04:21 |
| SpeedEvil | javispedro: 'crack screen' joke app | 04:21 |
| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: unlocked system here atm ;-D | 04:21 |
| javispedro | well, don't try before I check it's reversible | 04:21 |
| SpeedEvil | That, and an appropriate wallpaper | 04:21 |
| javispedro | yes, it's reversible | 04:21 |
| javispedro | DocScrutinizer: same, but I don't see anything in the way. | 04:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | aaah yes, "see" was the key | 04:22 |
| DocScrutinizer | javispedro: http://paste.debian.net/132102/ | 04:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | ?? | 04:24 |
| DocScrutinizer | is all this just about executing an unsigned binary? | 04:25 |
| javispedro | mostly | 04:25 |
| javispedro | it has not even executed the binary yet | 04:25 |
| javispedro | so no way it can know it opens i2c device nodes | 04:25 |
| javispedro | try binhash.py | 04:25 |
| DocScrutinizer | yeah | 04:26 |
| DocScrutinizer | wow, clean | 04:28 |
| javispedro | what's that burning smell? ;) | 04:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | hihihi | 04:28 |
| DocScrutinizer | what does disable_ts ? | 04:29 |
| javispedro | disable ts ;) | 04:29 |
| javispedro | (touchscreen) | 04:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | not here | 04:29 |
| javispedro | it certainly does here | 04:29 |
| javispedro | 1 disables, 0 enables | 04:29 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, swipe and whatnot just works ... aaah sth reset it to 0 | 04:30 |
| javispedro | probably mce during lock | 04:31 |
| DocScrutinizer | yep | 04:31 |
| javispedro | or should I say, unlock ;P | 04:31 |
| javispedro | oh, this one is more interesting | 04:31 |
| javispedro | DocScrutinizer: what does that tool of yours really access? /dev/i2c* or /sys/*i2c* ? | 04:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | ooh, probably /dev | 04:32 |
| DocScrutinizer | sorry | 04:32 |
| javispedro | yeah, those _are_ protected | 04:32 |
| * DocScrutinizer seems tired | 04:32 | |
| DocScrutinizer | lemme check | 04:32 |
| javispedro | you need either cracked or GRP::i2c | 04:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | I will read from device file /dev/i2c-2, chip address 0x6b, data address | 04:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | 0x00, using read byte data. | 04:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | Continue? [Y/n] n | 04:33 |
| javispedro | but you have broken aegis, remember? ;P | 04:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure | 04:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | thought it should still log | 04:34 |
| javispedro | ah, ok, got the point | 04:34 |
| javispedro | nah, it will not log | 04:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | I gather GRP::i2c isn't available from SDK and not even from OVI? | 04:36 |
| javispedro | neither | 04:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | how are my chances to convince Nokia to sign i2ctools? :-P | 04:37 |
| javispedro | marvelous | 04:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | I bet | 04:37 |
| javispedro | but, that is not the problem | 04:37 |
| javispedro | you are not loading modules, I think that's more of a killer... | 04:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | yes, I know | 04:38 |
| SpeedEvil | A bit of reading leads me to understand that the 2^51 attack is if you can choose both plaintexts. | 05:13 |
| SpeedEvil | If you can't - it's more like 2^108 to find a hash collision with a known hash | 05:14 |
| DocScrutinizer | ETAB? | 05:14 |
| javispedro | ECHAN ;= | 05:17 |
| SpeedEvil | something like that | 05:18 |
| GeneralAntilles | Did anybody ever put up a feed for xkcd #941? | 05:19 |
| GeneralAntilles | http://xkcd.com/941/ | 05:19 |
| javispedro | you can simulate =) | 05:26 |
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| jykae | Could someone here with n950 test MPhoto? I probably have problem with photoload thread, getting segfault | 12:24 |
| jykae | would be happy if someone could help get over with this | 12:25 |
| jykae | https://projects.developer.nokia.com/mphoto/browser | 12:25 |
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| Venemo | mornin guys :) | 12:36 |
| rantom | morning Venemo | 12:38 |
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| vladest | hi | 12:49 |
| vladest | have no sound from qsound on harmattan | 12:49 |
| vladest | aegis? | 12:49 |
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| vladest | nice, qsound doesnt works for harmattan | 13:01 |
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| hiemanshu | ~ping | 13:02 |
| infobot | ~pong | 13:02 |
| hiemanshu | vladest: you'll need to use MTF mostly | 13:03 |
| hiemanshu | or QML | 13:03 |
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| vladest | to heqq qml | 13:03 |
| vladest | heqq==hell | 13:04 |
| vladest | qApp->beep() doesnt works too | 13:04 |
| vladest | wtf? | 13:04 |
| Venemo | hello rantom :) | 13:04 |
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| rantom | hello Venemo | 13:06 |
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| hiemanshu | vladest: like I said, MTF or QML, nothing else works | 13:10 |
| vladest | hiemanshu: rewriting for qmediaplayer | 13:11 |
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| gri | Anyone else having the issue that QtCreator with madde sometimes (around every 10th build) empties qtc_packaging/debian_harmattan/manifest.aegis? | 13:34 |
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| SpeedEvil | Fail. The battery low notification sound should trigger a battery low notification messasage like SMS or whatever on next unlock | 14:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | indeed | 14:00 |
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| DocScrutinizer | to whom it may concern: started a thread about H-E-N for N9(50) on FMC now: http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=4610 | 14:37 |
| alterego | Neat | 14:42 |
| alterego | (do want) :P | 14:42 |
| vladest | DocScrutinizer so, usb OTG aorund the corner? | 14:43 |
| hiemanshu | vladest: not with aegis in the path | 14:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | not exactly yet, but basically the hw is capable, at least it seems to be for all we know right now | 14:43 |
| alterego | The HW is capable of OTG? | 14:44 |
| SpeedEvil | alterego: Seemingly, yes | 14:44 |
| SpeedEvil | But hostmode certainly | 14:44 |
| alterego | Awesome, I heard that was a case a while ago from a friend .. | 14:44 |
| SpeedEvil | Does anyone actually care about actual OTG? | 14:45 |
| alterego | Well, not particularly now :) | 14:46 |
| alterego | Except for the auto negotiation .. | 14:46 |
| DocScrutinizer | auto negotiation is a property of generic USB hosts. Just N900 H-E-N needed such ugly hacks to work around some he mess that it didn't work for that device | 14:47 |
| DocScrutinizer | no need to bring the mind boggling OTG | 14:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer | btw N9 is *not* capable of true OTG, if only it was for the wrong (B-type) USB receptacle ;-) | 14:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | an OTG device per definition needs a AB receptacle | 14:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | that's also the reason why N8 OTG adapters won't fit to N9 (except for you filing down the edges of the micro plug so it fits into the B receptacles ;-D ) | 14:51 |
| alterego | Yeah | 14:52 |
| alterego | Could get an adpater | 14:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | which btw is sth I need to do now :-/ | 14:52 |
| alterego | Why can't you just use what we use for N900? | 14:53 |
| alterego | A normal capable and gender bender? | 14:53 |
| alterego | ~cable .. | 14:53 |
| DocScrutinizer | ID pin | 14:56 |
| alterego | You're hacking in an ID pin? | 14:56 |
| DocScrutinizer | the whole purpose of ID and OTG is to auto-switch to A role aka hostmode when a plug with ID pin grounded gets inserted to the OTG AB receptacle | 14:57 |
| alterego | Yeah, I sort of forgot that :P | 14:58 |
| DocScrutinizer | on N9 we got a promising "standard" circuitry around ID pin. So it'd be insane to forget about first trying the "normal" way to enter A-role | 14:59 |
| DocScrutinizer | I honestly don't plan to go the N900 hack path with forcing musb_hdrc into host test mode on N9 | 15:00 |
| DocScrutinizer | at least not until I've tested physical ID pin grounding and the usual sw method to tell PHY "chip" to simulate this ID-to-GND event | 15:01 |
| DocScrutinizer | I've found out Nokia EE did such an awesome job on N9 that hostmode possibly works even OOTB for all but USB stack missing the relevant bits to handle OTG mode transitions and hostmode properly - means possibly even vboost gets enabled on a mere hw level without any need for a booston script etc | 15:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | but I need a proper A plug with ID pin correctly grounded, to verify that - also I need the twl4030 user manual that explains exactly how the whole USB PHY gear in this chip works | 15:07 |
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| vladest | why I have red icon on n950 desktop after install my app. | 15:57 |
| vladest | ? | 15:57 |
| SpeedEvil | reboot | 16:00 |
| SpeedEvil | And no, I don't know the right solution | 16:00 |
| SpeedEvil | On fremantle, you would kill hildon-desktop to get it to reload the icons | 16:02 |
| SpeedEvil | IIRC | 16:02 |
| RST38h | vladest: icon cache does not update | 16:02 |
| DocScrutinizer | I wonder if they ever get to fix this issue for good | 16:03 |
| vladest | old good symbian story | 16:03 |
| SpeedEvil | Most of the ovi store stuff seems to get it right | 16:03 |
| DocScrutinizer | My take on it is: dpkg fist installs .desktop file, inotify triggers icon cache refresh, then after that almost finished the dpkg installs the actual icon. Should be fixable worst hack with a sleep 5 | 16:05 |
| RST38h | Well, all it takes is a little postinst trick | 16:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | s/fist/first/ | 16:05 |
| infobot | DocScrutinizer meant: My take on it is: dpkg first installs .desktop file, inotify triggers icon cache refresh, then after that almost finished the dpkg installs the actual icon. Should be fixable worst hack with a sleep 5 | 16:05 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: all it needs is proper sequence of files to install | 16:05 |
| RST38h | well,don'thave controlofthisone | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | or a silly simple fix the the daemon that watches for changes in /usr/share/applications/* and then triggers the icon caching | 16:06 |
| RST38h | cannot control this oneeither | 16:06 |
| DocScrutinizer | or yeah you do a dirty simply "touch /usr/share/applications/myapp.desktop" in postinstall script | 16:07 |
| RST38h | actually, I force recaching icons | 16:07 |
| RST38h | all icons | 16:08 |
| DocScrutinizer | RST38h: it's not about what *you* can control, when we're talking about " I wonder if they ever get to fix this issue for good" | 16:08 |
| RST38h | The answer to your question is rather clear, isn't it? | 16:08 |
| SpeedEvil | 'Please reboot to fix icon, thanks' | 16:09 |
| SpeedEvil | More seriously - some of the free stuff in ovis tore the icon works | 16:09 |
| SpeedEvil | So it must be possible | 16:09 |
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| DocScrutinizer | it depends on number and sequence of files to install in your .dpkg | 16:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | also on system load etc | 16:10 |
| DocScrutinizer | general solution: the cacher process should wait for dpkg/apt to quit | 16:11 |
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| DocScrutinizer | (all this is mere handwaving, based on observation and deduction) | 16:11 |
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| * SpeedEvil finds game with ads in, that don't actually work. | 16:14 | |
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| DocScrutinizer | what's the final word on downgrading to beta1 now? | 16:15 |
| DocScrutinizer | possible or not? | 16:15 |
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| vladest | why I' ve got the error: : denied 'mce::DeviceModeControl' -- origin '' does not allow it | 16:21 |
| vladest | ? | 16:21 |
| MohammadAG | vladest, yes, screwing with mce can kill the user, so we're not given access | 16:27 |
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| DocScrutinizer | :-P | 16:40 |
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| DocScrutinizer | don' | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | t worry | 16:41 |
| hiemanshu | be happy | 16:41 |
| DocScrutinizer | on N9 you're probably not supposed to do anything with mce anyway | 16:41 |
| MohammadAG | so what's the news on the meteor/commet thingy | 16:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | vladest: say "thank you aegis"! | 16:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | eh? | 16:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | meteor thingy? | 16:43 |
| MohammadAG | people saying there's something hitting SF or NYC or sth | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | hahaha | 16:44 |
| MohammadAG | tomorrow apparently | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | sure | 16:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | NASA says a satellite comes/came down and they weren't able to exactly tell where - until those news hit your regions they mutated to "meteor hitting NY" | 16:45 |
| MohammadAG | http://www.google.com/m/search?client=ms-nokia-meego&sa=2&q=dwarf+star+26+September&site=universal | 16:46 |
| vladest | ? via mce | 16:47 |
| MohammadAG | yes, you can turn on a LED that can cause the user to implode | 16:47 |
| MohammadAG | or lock the screen causing epic confusion | 16:48 |
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| DocScrutinizer | MohammadAG: >>C/2010 X1 made its closest approach to the Sun (perihelion) on 10 September 2011 at a distance of 0.4824 AU (72,170,000 km; 44,840,000 mi).[3] Assuming it has not disintigrated, will make its closest approach to the Earth on 16 October 2011, at a distance of 0.2338 AU (34,980,000 km; 21,730,000 mi)[3] or slightly closer than the planet Venus, at a relative velocity of 86,000 km/h.<< thanks for letting us all know | 16:56 |
| macmaN | surprise surprise, ovi suite works in virtualbox XP, but not with Vista+ | 17:11 |
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| alterego | macmaN: good to know. Does ovi work with N950 now? | 17:31 |
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| macmaN | alterego: yep, syncing both Contacts and Messages | 17:31 |
| alterego | Sweet. | 17:32 |
| alterego | I'll have to check that out later. | 17:32 |
| macmaN | although the Message progress bar isnt exactly moving | 17:33 |
| macmaN | hum | 17:34 |
| macmaN | it only imported messages from device apparently | 17:34 |
| macmaN | ok looking at ovi suite prefs, i dont think it even has two-way sync for messages implemented for at least n900 and n950 | 17:38 |
| macmaN | might be different for symbian, but i dont have any to test | 17:38 |
| macmaN | strange thing was it wouldnt recognize n950 through usb though :/ | 17:39 |
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| MohammadAG | 20 2 root RW 0 0.0 60.5 [kswapd0] <- this normal? | 18:16 |
| MohammadAG | 20 2 root RW 0 0.0 79.8 [kswapd0] | 18:18 |
| MohammadAG | my N950's lagging way too much | 18:18 |
| MohammadAG | 20 2 root RW 0 0.0 86.4 [kswapd0] <-- more fun | 18:19 |
| MohammadAG | it even persists after a reboot | 18:19 |
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| macmaN | probably not | 18:31 |
| macmaN | if swap's on mmc, maybe the media is borked | 18:31 |
| RST38h | Moo | 18:31 |
| RST38h | MohammadAG: Does htop say anything useful? | 18:31 |
| RST38h | lags + overheats = something is running | 18:32 |
| MohammadAG | RST38h, it persisted across a reflash too | 18:32 |
| RST38h | weird shit | 18:32 |
| RST38h | wifi access point might be to blame btw | 18:32 |
| MohammadAG | RST38h, kswap0 is a kernel module | 18:33 |
| MohammadAG | or part of the kernel | 18:33 |
| MohammadAG | htop won't show it | 18:33 |
| macmaN | really? if you enable kernel threads? | 18:35 |
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| MohammadAG | how do I do that? | 18:39 |
| Venemo | so, here are my pixel errors: http://kepfeltoltes.hu/110925/20110925_002_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg | 18:39 |
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| * MohammadAG photoshops a red-back N950 to show his overheating issue | 18:40 | |
| RST38h | Mohammad: You think it is swaping? | 18:40 |
| RST38h | There is some utility in dev tools showing swap activity | 18:40 |
| macmaN | MohammadAG: its in the Setup screen of htop, F2 | 18:40 |
| Venemo | MohammadAG, lol. | 18:40 |
| MohammadAG | RST38h, I think it's defective | 18:41 |
| Venemo | http://kepfeltoltes.hu/110925/20110925_001_www.kepfeltoltes.hu_.jpg | 18:41 |
| MohammadAG | till now overheating (not cause of kswap0 sometimes) | 18:41 |
| MohammadAG | GPS doesn't work | 18:41 |
| MohammadAG | no LED keyboard sysnodes | 18:41 |
| MohammadAG | Venemo, it's WP7 hatching out from within! | 18:42 |
| MohammadAG | hide yo kids n hide yo wife | 18:42 |
| Tronic | Is anyone else annoyed by the bad quality OLED screen of N9? | 18:42 |
| macmaN | hahahaha | 18:42 |
| RST38h | omgitsmelting | 18:42 |
| macmaN | now thats a good guess there MohammadAG | 18:42 |
| macmaN | some true avp shit | 18:42 |
| RST38h | Tronic: Yes, we are all very much annoyed by it. No having seenN9 in real life helps too | 18:43 |
| MohammadAG | On the bright side | 18:43 |
| MohammadAG | the lag kswap0's making makes my music sounds like DJ mixes | 18:43 |
| MohammadAG | Venemo, hmm, so the pixel error doesn't follow orientation | 18:43 |
| macmaN | Tronic: im definitely not unhappy about the screen of this phone that i received basically for free | 18:43 |
| MohammadAG | file a bug | 18:43 |
| Tronic | I was testing it briefly in a store and was instantly annoyed by the PenTile (I guess) pattern. | 18:43 |
| Tronic | I would rather use the LCD of N950 than such OLED. | 18:44 |
| MohammadAG | if there's no "Screen" component on bugzilla file it under Aegis | 18:44 |
| macmaN | oh youre talking about N9 | 18:44 |
| * macmaN hides | 18:44 | |
| * macmaN has difficulty hiding being 7ft tall | 18:44 | |
| MohammadAG | nobody likes braggers :P | 18:44 |
| faenil | wasn't the N9's OLED one of the best ever made? that's what previews said.. | 18:44 |
| Tronic | Samsung GS2 has Super AMOLED Plus that actually has RGB pixels (SGS had one without the "Plus" part, with PenTile). | 18:45 |
| MohammadAG | faenil, on the contrary | 18:45 |
| SpeedEvil | I have real issues with pentile - as-is | 18:45 |
| MohammadAG | Tronic, SGSII isn't better tbh | 18:45 |
| SpeedEvil | The fundamental problem is that the softwar rendering needs to know about it. | 18:45 |
| MohammadAG | screen suffers from burn ins | 18:45 |
| MohammadAG | I'm talking about experiencing that | 18:45 |
| faenil | how does that come...-.- | 18:45 |
| faenil | everyone was saying N9's oled was the best... | 18:46 |
| faenil | I hate when this happensa | 18:46 |
| MohammadAG | had a website on the screen for a minute and the text got burned in | 18:46 |
| Tronic | MohammadAG: Uh, looks like OLED isn't that super after all :/ | 18:46 |
| MohammadAG | no one said it was the best | 18:46 |
| MohammadAG | AMOLED != OLED though | 18:46 |
| SpeedEvil | Currently the software thinks it's a simple raster display, and there is a crappy chip converting. | 18:46 |
| MohammadAG | SAMOLED+ sucks | 18:46 |
| MohammadAG | btw | 18:46 |
| MohammadAG | the screen is good for one reason, it's curved | 18:46 |
| MohammadAG | the PenTile arrangement is meh though | 18:46 |
| faenil | -.- | 18:47 |
| MohammadAG | brb, I think the steak on the N950's done | 18:47 |
| faenil | all previews did... | 18:47 |
| faenil | lol | 18:47 |
| MohammadAG | damn, burned it | 18:47 |
| Venemo | MohammadAG, lol | 18:53 |
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| Venemo | MohammadAG, AMOLED = Active Matrix OLED | 19:11 |
| MohammadAG | Venemo, being a subset does not mean it equals it | 19:11 |
| MohammadAG | is it possible to serialize QObjects? | 19:11 |
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| special | MohammadAG: not inherently. The closest thing to serialization is QDataStream, and you'll need to implement it yourself for custom types. | 19:43 |
| special | ..if you spend the last half hour still wondering about that | 19:43 |
| special | spent* | 19:43 |
| macmaN | what was the battery model in n950 | 19:58 |
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| macmaN | bl-4d | 20:03 |
| MohammadAG | special, might just end up using QHash | 20:10 |
| MohammadAG | since I just wanted to store QPixmaps/QStrings | 20:10 |
| MohammadAG | then send them over a socket | 20:10 |
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| ieatlint | interestingly, the phonetorch app keeps the on | 22:43 |
| special | I wonder if it's possible to get torch on while recording video | 22:45 |
| special | built-in video lighting, if the horrid red recording state doesn't interfere with it | 22:45 |
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| SpeedEvil | Broken - you can't have the videocamera running while in another app | 22:49 |
| DocScrutinizer | but you maybe can have the flash LEDs running while in camera app | 22:51 |
| DocScrutinizer | quite probably not, though | 22:51 |
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| special | yeah, that's what I was thinking | 22:54 |
| special | but, I wouldn't be surprised if the recording light prevents it. | 22:54 |
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| SpeedEvil | special: no reason it should | 23:04 |
| SpeedEvil | I just triesd the flashlight app and teh video camera together - doesn't work, as expected | 23:04 |
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| MohammadAG | Visual Basic is weird, and fun | 23:46 |
| MohammadAG | I don't get how I don't have to instantiate an.. instance | 23:47 |
| javispedro | does anyone know of a way to get qmf/fenix/messaging framework to dump sent/received commands during mail check? | 23:47 |
| MohammadAG | I guess you could patch qmf | 23:47 |
| javispedro | no sources.. | 23:50 |
| javispedro | (for beta2 I mean) | 23:50 |
| MohammadAG | javispedro, can't we sue? | 23:50 |
| MohammadAG | well, demand sources first then sue | 23:51 |
| MohammadAG | also I guess upstream QMF works, if that exists | 23:51 |
| javispedro | probably, but as said, legalese usually destroys legalese, not enhaces it. | 23:51 |
| javispedro | *destroys communication | 23:51 |
| SpeedEvil | javispedro: tcpdump | 23:54 |
| javispedro | sadly, it's an SSL socket. | 23:54 |
| SpeedEvil | Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo | 23:54 |
| SpeedEvil | Download the diginodar root key off torrent, roll your own cert, MITM | 23:55 |
| javispedro | lol | 23:55 |
| javispedro | but it's not a bad point, actually... | 23:55 |
| SpeedEvil | tcpdump is actually in dev-tools | 23:56 |
| javispedro | I am getting this from time to time using fenix: "Unexpected response from server: pop.gmail.com: -ERR Command not accepted^M ". It usually keeps going like that for hours until it suddenly starts working again | 23:57 |
| SpeedEvil | ah | 23:57 |
| javispedro | thought it was network related, but today I realized N900 can check mail just fine | 23:57 |
| MohammadAG | sorry | 23:57 |
| MohammadAG | one question | 23:57 |
| MohammadAG | WHY POP | 23:58 |
| javispedro | why not? | 23:58 |
| ieatlint | SpeedEvil: wait, really, the root cert was publicly leaked? | 23:58 |
| MohammadAG | why not imap? | 23:58 |
| SpeedEvil | ieatlint: I don't believe so, but would not be 100% surprised. | 23:58 |
| SpeedEvil | ieatlint: Especially if you wave wadges of cash around. | 23:59 |
| ieatlint | :P | 23:59 |
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