| evilJazz | djszapi, the filenames contained :: like in "iTunes Music Library.xml::EA::com.apple.metadata:3acom_apple_backup_excludeItem" | 00:01 |
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| evilJazz | these files were created when I copied my iTunes library to my Ubuntu desktop via AFP/netatalk from the Mac | 00:01 |
| evilJazz | the test data was bundled in the deb package | 00:02 |
| djszapi | this is not an exact stepset. | 00:02 |
| evilJazz | that file was used as dummy data to test the UI because the C++ models were not ready at the time (two weeks ago). | 00:02 |
| djszapi | I cannot help until I get exact steps | 00:05 |
| evilJazz | well, I have already fixed the problem. You don't need to help me. Here is what was bundled with my deb package because I added the qmlui directory to the DEPLOYMENTFOLDERS in the .pro file: http://katastrophos.net/downloads/Screenshot-1.png | 00:08 |
| jkt | so I'm trying to play with an QML application. I've started with the template provided by QtCreator, tried to made some modifications, but wasn't really happy with the result | 00:08 |
| jkt | so I decided to take a look at qt-components from gitorious, and tried to import the .qml files from its examples/meego/QmlComponentGallery/qml directory | 00:09 |
| jkt | I've added them to the .pro file and to the respective qrc file | 00:09 |
| evilJazz | as you can see, the weird filenames in the .AppleDouble caused the deb package to be rejected: http://katastrophos.net/downloads/Screenshot-2.png | 00:09 |
| jkt | yet, when I start the application, all I see is a black screen | 00:09 |
| evilJazz | just deleting the .AppleDouble directory fixed the problem. | 00:09 |
| jkt | so I have two questions -- what am I doing wrong in this specific case, and especially the second one: how am I supposed to debug these QML issues on device? | 00:10 |
| jkt | I can't use the usual QML debugger, because the harmattan components are not even available on desktop builds, afaik | 00:10 |
| deimos | jkt, you can copy component to desktop | 00:13 |
| evilJazz | jkt: good question, I am still looking for a solution too. I am currently only testing the generic core stuff of my app on the desktop and do the qt-component specific debugging on the device. | 00:14 |
| jkt | deimos: I'm coming from the QWidget land; how do I do that? | 00:14 |
| deimos | I followed this http://meegoharmattandev.blogspot.com/2011/07/setting-up-qt-sdk-for-meego-harmattan.html | 00:14 |
| deimos | I run flawless the app on desktop and the try if all is ok on n950 | 00:15 |
| deimos | *then | 00:15 |
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| jkt | deimos: thanks for that tip | 00:17 |
| deimos | here there is an how to but by installing all with deb in ubuntu | 00:17 |
| deimos | http://www.developer.nokia.com/Community/Blogs/blog/kate-alholas-forum-nokia-blog/2011/06/23/nokia-meego-1.2-harmattan-qt-quick-components | 00:17 |
| deimos | np | 00:17 |
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| evilJazz | deimos, thank you very much for the links. That is precious information. | 00:28 |
| * jkt has no idea why the configure script recognized the qmake from Qt3 | 00:28 | |
| jkt | but fortunately, env massaging fixed that one | 00:28 |
| jkt | it was still a nasty surprise :) | 00:28 |
| deimos | evilJazz, np, but if you are doing something more hardware related, scratchbox or qemu is needed | 00:30 |
| deimos | jkt, to compile you need at last Qt 4.7.4 if I am not wrong | 00:31 |
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| jkt | deimos: yeah, seems so (I'm getting some compilation errors with 4.7.1) | 00:38 |
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| jkt | okay, so the black screen error was caused by importing the 1.1 version of com.nokia.meego instead of 1.0 | 01:10 |
| * jkt just missed that | 01:10 | |
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| deimos | jkt, I do "import com.meego 1.0" | 01:40 |
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| Mek | com.nokia.meego is more correct than com.meego afaik | 01:52 |
| ajalkane | yes, com.nokia.meego should be used | 01:53 |
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| rm_you | RST38h: not sure how to make it work with the script as of currently | 03:05 |
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| GeneralAntilles | You know what's scary? | 04:16 |
| GeneralAntilles | Harmattan's got me using the portrait keyboard for most things. | 04:16 |
| berndhs | yeah that's pretty bad | 04:17 |
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| special | GeneralAntilles: I've been doing that pretty often as well, unless there's something long to type | 04:20 |
| ieatlint | is that an insult to the hw keyboard, a compliment to the on-screen keyboard, or both? | 04:22 |
| berndhs | i think it means the virtual keyboard obscures less of the screen in portrait mode | 04:23 |
| special | I like the hw keyboard, but harmattan is mostly using portrait and it's often easier to just use the portrait vkb than to open the hardware one. | 04:24 |
| ieatlint | yeah... true enough | 04:24 |
| ieatlint | the vkb is nothing special, but it's not too terrible... certainly a lot better than symbian's portrait vkb | 04:25 |
| berndhs | and if the application doesn't turn to landscape, using the hw keyboard loses a bit | 04:25 |
| special | some of the transitions to landscape are broken/buggy in the public build too | 04:26 |
| special | I try to treat the chat as gently as possible :| | 04:26 |
| ieatlint | chat? i wasn't aware of any chat in the public build... unless it's nokia chat, heh | 04:27 |
| special | "messages" | 04:27 |
| special | facebook chat works in the public build. | 04:28 |
| ieatlint | ah, i've not touched any of the facebook stuffs... | 04:28 |
| ieatlint | certainly seems more and more like we won't be seeing any updates for the n950 until the n9 launched | 04:30 |
| GeneralAntilles | Anybody know where the lockscreen background is hiding? | 04:32 |
| berndhs | i'm not convinced the gesture programming in Qt is very good | 04:35 |
| berndhs | its hard to see what the gesture framework will do, under which conditions | 04:36 |
| berndhs | how it will propagate gestures or not propagate them | 04:36 |
| ieatlint | the qt gestures support was never well done i think | 04:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | ieatlint, compliment. | 04:38 |
| GeneralAntilles | The newer firmwares are supposed to be much nicer, too. | 04:38 |
| ieatlint | cool | 04:38 |
| berndhs | i'm tempted to just grab events from a MouseArea and generate invoke some metaobject functions | 04:39 |
| berndhs | bypass all the QGesture machinery | 04:39 |
| ieatlint | berndhs: you can implement your own gestures which doesn't work too badly | 04:40 |
| berndhs | yes i'm trying to do that | 04:40 |
| ieatlint | there's an example for maemo5 on how to do single finger swiping | 04:40 |
| berndhs | i recognize a simple gesture, thats nt the problem | 04:40 |
| ieatlint | which works quite well, i've had to use that as an example code for symbian even | 04:40 |
| berndhs | it just doesnt get propagated in any way I can follow | 04:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | (TI Nspire CX CAS on its way) | 04:40 |
| GeneralAntilles | I'm paying a lot of money to TI today. | 04:41 |
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| ieatlint | anyone know the recommended way for having a daemon auto-start in harmattan? | 04:59 |
| GeneralAntilles | Have it beat Aegis to death with a frozen trout? | 05:00 |
| djszapi | ieatlint: upstart ? | 05:01 |
| djszapi | DocScrutinizer: after my android phone arrived. I tested it a lot. From what I can say, their security is even more restrict... | 05:01 |
| djszapi | ieatlint: /etc/init/app/ | 05:02 |
| ieatlint | yeah, see it, was able to get some good info with google on the upstart keyword too | 05:07 |
| ieatlint | thanks :) | 05:07 |
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| Khertan | Morning | 10:07 |
| Khertan | There is something i didn t understand about the cobs : why one of my package didn t have harmattan repository as target. | 10:08 |
| Khertan | as it s listed in repository | 10:08 |
| Khertan | of the package but not in the overview page | 10:09 |
| mece | \o | 10:09 |
| Khertan | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/show?package=PyPackager&project=home%3Akhertan | 10:09 |
| Khertan | it s maybe my errors | 10:10 |
| Khertan | but i didn't found it | 10:10 |
| djszapi | Khertan: it is not there: https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?arch_armv7el=1&defaults=0&project=home%3Akhertan&repo_Harmattan=1&succeeded=1 | 10:11 |
| djszapi | so it is all fine | 10:11 |
| mece | Khertan, does khteditor need libraries from your repo, or can I install the deb directly? | 10:12 |
| djszapi | mece: check the dsc file. | 10:12 |
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| mece | doh, obs fails to serve the file over web for some reason | 10:15 |
| mece | ah nevermind | 10:16 |
| djszapi | works for me | 10:16 |
| mece | so who was it that had the multi instance xterm in the repo? | 10:17 |
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| Khertan_W | :) | 10:19 |
| Khertan_W | re | 10:20 |
| Khertan_W | irc-chatter seems having problem when network switch | 10:20 |
| Khertan_W | so hum ... yes khteditor have only python/pyside dependancies normally | 10:20 |
| Khertan_W | so you can install deb directly normally | 10:20 |
| Khertan_W | but it s old release | 10:20 |
| Khertan_W | i ll package a newer one soon | 10:20 |
| mece | Khertan_W, noticed, and I did. | 10:20 |
| Khertan_W | even if it s far from finished | 10:21 |
| mece | Khertan_W, that's fine. I'm just glad to have something :) | 10:21 |
| Khertan_W | preferences still missing and search | 10:21 |
| mece | Khertan_W, it looks really pretty btw :) very nice! | 10:21 |
| Khertan_W | thx | 10:21 |
| Khertan_W | to be honest qml bother me | 10:21 |
| Khertan_W | s/bother/borring | 10:21 |
| Khertan_W | so doing preferences ui is kinda slow | 10:22 |
| mece | I like qml. Mostly because my python and c++ fu is so weak | 10:22 |
| Khertan_W | i like python ... but i prefer doing ui in qwidget than qml | 10:23 |
| mece | Khertan_W, hey, could you perhaps link to your repo from wii.meego.com/user:khertan ? | 10:23 |
| Khertan_W | the modify launch, try retry bother me | 10:23 |
| mece | Khertan_W, that way people would find your stuff easier. | 10:24 |
| Khertan_W | wii ? | 10:24 |
| Khertan_W | it s not anymore the rzr repo ? | 10:24 |
| mece | what's the rzr repo? | 10:24 |
| djszapi | the sahred community | 10:24 |
| mece | right | 10:24 |
| mece | right. | 10:24 |
| mece | perhaps I should add that :) | 10:25 |
| mece | this one: http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/rzr/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/ ? | 10:25 |
| djszapi | http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page#Development_Repositories | 10:26 |
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| Khertan_W | thx for posting link | 10:26 |
| Khertan_W | you was faster than me and my slow office network | 10:26 |
| Khertan_W | http://www.who.is.free.fr/wiki/doku.php?id=harmattan | 10:27 |
| djszapi | I do not know what "unofficial" means. | 10:28 |
| djszapi | it is just as official as other community repository. | 10:29 |
| mece | aaaargh ffs | 10:31 |
| mece | i wrote the whole damn line to add the repo to sources.list and I forgot to devel-su first! | 10:32 |
| dm8tbr | I hear there is c&p support for harmattan terminal coming :) | 10:32 |
| mece | omg how I need that. | 10:33 |
| dm8tbr | workaround prepend echo postpend >/foo | 10:33 |
| dm8tbr | s/postpend/append/ | 10:33 |
| infobot | dm8tbr meant: workaround prepend echo append >/foo | 10:33 |
| mece | hmm I'll just write it again. It wasn't THAT long | 10:33 |
| * RST38h moos | 10:33 | |
| dm8tbr | :) | 10:33 |
| mece | does anyone have a build of the latest terminal? Maliit is it? | 10:34 |
| dm8tbr | that's what I did with my xmpp setup commands, just echo >>xmpp.sh and then scp it away. need to reflash soon | 10:34 |
| dm8tbr | maliit is the vkbd IIRC | 10:34 |
| mece | oh. | 10:34 |
| mece | heh | 10:34 |
| mece | *bonk self* | 10:35 |
| mece | anyway | 10:35 |
| dm8tbr | mece: ask kimju, he should know or have his own build | 10:35 |
| mece | xterm | 10:35 |
| mece | kimju, ping | 10:35 |
| mece | perhaps I could roll my own... | 10:35 |
| mece | it's in the git, right | 10:35 |
| mece | on gitorious | 10:35 |
| dm8tbr | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/packages?project=home%3Akimju%3Aharmattan | 10:36 |
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| dm8tbr | but double check if there is newer source from upstream available | 10:36 |
| mece | rzr has it! | 10:38 |
| mece | https://build.pub.meego.com/package/binaries?package=mg-terminal&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repository=MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard | 10:38 |
| mece | 0.1.8.1 seems to be the latest here. | 10:38 |
| * RST38h could not install it for some reason | 10:38 | |
| mece | damne | 10:43 |
| mece | oo | 10:43 |
| mece | git-core \o/ | 10:43 |
| mece | hmm libssl breaks on postinst. where are the postinsts stored again? | 10:47 |
| djszapi | /var/lib/dpkg/info/ iirc | 10:47 |
| djszapi | (something like that, it is just by heart without sb, or gadget :) | 10:48 |
| mece | djszapi, it was correct :) | 10:49 |
| mece | ah, script need bash. Do we have bash? | 10:49 |
| djszapi | of course | 10:49 |
| djszapi | what do you mean by "breaks" ? | 10:49 |
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| Jaffa | Morning, all | 10:50 |
| mece | well I don't have bash installed, and the postinst script for libssl1.0.0 has bashisms. So installation breaks. | 10:50 |
| mece | hmm no bash in repo, just bash-completion | 10:51 |
| djszapi | where is this libssl ? | 10:51 |
| djszapi | I do not see it in the public Nokia repo, not even in the shared community. | 10:52 |
| kimju | hmm? | 10:52 |
| djszapi | mece: http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/pool/harmattan-beta/free/b/bash/ | 10:52 |
| DocScrutinizer | djszapi: (android more strict) fine, thanks for confirming another point why I hate Android and am convinced it's completely useless | 10:52 |
| djszapi | oh well | 10:53 |
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| mece | djszapi, it's in rzr, libssl1.0.0 | 10:53 |
| mece | djszapi, shouldn't that repo be enabled by default? | 10:54 |
| DocScrutinizer | see, IF I liked android concept I for sure had gotten me an Android phone rather than a N900 | 10:54 |
| djszapi | https://build.pub.meego.com/project/monitor?arch_armv7el=1&defaults=0&project=home%3Arzr%3Aharmattan&repo_MeeGo_1_2_Harmattan_Maemo_org_MeeGo_1_2_Harmattan_standard=1&succeeded=1 -> ok I was looking libssl here, sorry, not the distributed packages. | 10:54 |
| djszapi | mece: nope, it is community repository. | 10:54 |
| mece | djszapi, oo.. | 10:54 |
| djszapi | DocScrutinizer: no, sorry you misunderstood my intention. I was not trying to confirm your "hate". I was just saying we ship a more open approach. I still like Android as well. | 10:56 |
| mece | djszapi, is this what I should add: "deb http://harmattan-dev.nokia.com/ harmattan/sdk free non-free" | 10:56 |
| djszapi | mece: yes, as the wikipage says. | 10:56 |
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| mece | okydo. | 10:57 |
| mece | I'll just add them all.. | 10:57 |
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| djszapi | please please /please/ do not! | 10:57 |
| RST38h | why not? | 10:58 |
| djszapi | community repository + harmattan should be okay, otherwise you might end up a screwed up repository list with duplicated choices. | 10:58 |
| djszapi | if you need anything special just grab it manually and make a request to push it to the shared. | 10:58 |
| RST38h | ah, the extras-or-die crap again | 10:59 |
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| RST38h | even although there is absolutely no infrastructure for the harmattan extras at the moment | 10:59 |
| * RST38h moos at wazd evilly | 10:59 | |
| djszapi | mece: or at least make sure the order is parsed as you expect. | 11:00 |
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| mece | ok so the official and the rzr | 11:04 |
| djszapi | yep, and you find something elsewhere working: do not hesitate to help out the community with porting it to the shared. | 11:05 |
| djszapi | if* | 11:05 |
| mece | I haven't managed to get my own stuff built in obs yet, so I'm a while from actually being helpful | 11:06 |
| mece | builds fine in scratchbox or qtsdk tho.. | 11:07 |
| frals | mece: got a link to qlister.deb? | 11:09 |
| frals | mece: seems ive misplaced it and have reflashed my devices ;( | 11:10 |
| mece | frals, wiki.meego.com/user:mece/Qlister2 | 11:11 |
| mece | frals, or dev is http://hedwerks.net/harmattan/qlister2_0_1-2_armel.deb | 11:11 |
| mece | did khertan leave? | 11:12 |
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| mece | frals, I mean deb.. | 11:16 |
| mece | FINALLY!!!!! multi instance terminal :D:D:D:D \o/ | 11:18 |
| Jaffa | Oooh | 11:20 |
| Jaffa | mece: where? | 11:20 |
| mece | http://repo.pub.meego.com/home:/rzr:/harmattan/MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_Maemo.org_MeeGo_1.2_Harmattan_standard/armel/mg-terminal_0.1.8.1%2bgit-mg4_armel.deb | 11:20 |
| mece | I think I'll edit the community obs wiki a bit, to recommend onyl adding rzr and official. | 11:22 |
| mece | everyone ok with that? | 11:22 |
| djszapi | well, you cannot add to the official, and we should no force people, just recommend. That is also documented on the shared page and wiki, already. | 11:23 |
| mece | I mean on the page listing development repos, | 11:24 |
| djszapi | you can be more explicit, if you wanna to, yes. | 11:25 |
| mece | djszapi, well it's like this now: http://wiki.meego.com/Community_Office/Community_device_program/Nokia/Development_repos | 11:27 |
| djszapi | in my opinion, the shared repository description link should just be added instead of duplicating that. | 11:28 |
| djszapi | but not on that link, but here: http://wiki.meego.com/N950_landing_page#Development_Repositories | 11:29 |
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| Venemo_N950 | good morning | 11:42 |
| djszapi | hi Venemo :) | 11:43 |
| wazd | hello all | 11:44 |
| Venemo_N950 | hey djszapi, how're you? | 11:45 |
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| * Venemo_N950 wants new software for his N950 | 12:07 | |
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| flux | venemo_n950, maybe if you want it enough, it happens! | 12:08 |
| djszapi | Venemo_N950: does this sentence run from a cron job ? :p | 12:09 |
| mece | hahaha | 12:10 |
| mece | oh cock! | 12:12 |
| mece | git fails | 12:12 |
| mece | hmpf | 12:12 |
| mece | I guess I cheered too soon. | 12:13 |
| Venemo_N950 | djszapi, NOT A BAD IDEA!!! | 12:13 |
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| rantom | How do I restart vkb? | 13:10 |
| rantom | It just went off | 13:10 |
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| rantom | (virtual keyboard) | 13:12 |
| djszapi | What do you mean by "went off" ? | 13:15 |
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| rZZZr | mece: back | 13:49 |
| rZZZr | rzr repo is my playground | 13:50 |
| rZZZr | rzr:harmattan is the shared repo | 13:50 |
| djszapi | that is what we discussed :) | 13:53 |
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| lcuk | is it pyside or pyqt that is available for ovi | 14:01 |
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| lcuk | achipa, which python/qt bindings should be used and is ovi compatible with python now? | 14:14 |
| achipa | in harmattan context, that would be pyside (not aware of any PyQt port), not sure about Ovi status ATM | 14:15 |
| lcuk | achipa, what other contexts are there? | 14:17 |
| achipa | desktop, maemo, etc | 14:17 |
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| rantom | Is it a known issue that if someone leaves a voicemail to you won't get a SMS of it? | 15:17 |
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| achipa | rantom: that would be a provider feature, the device or firmware has nothing to with it | 16:10 |
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| rantom | Why does it work with N900 then? | 16:10 |
| rantom | Same SIM | 16:10 |
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| achipa | rantom: that's then a general SMS issue, there should be no difference in the SMS sent due to voicemail or from any other device/service | 16:13 |
| achipa | rantom: I know I had an issue when some SMS-es got stuck (had to reboot and then the messages would come in the next retry loop) | 16:14 |
| rantom | ok | 16:14 |
| rantom | I'll try it again with new FW, since I got horrible reception now with the old | 16:15 |
| rantom | ...according to the callers | 16:15 |
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| Venemo | http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/09/01/qt-sdk-update-introducing-qt-creator-2-3-and-other-updates/ | 16:51 |
| Venemo | MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan beta: This version of the Harmattan target is built on the same software image that was used in the version released in June so does not introduce new features, but is required to be updated in order to continue developing MeeGo 1.2 Harmattan apps. | 16:51 |
| Venemo | fuck them. | 16:51 |
| Venemo | srsly! | 16:51 |
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| vladest | hi | 17:22 |
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| javispedro | rm_work: which credentials? | 17:34 |
| rm_work | err | 17:34 |
| rm_work | 0::1 | 17:34 |
| rm_work | 0::6 | 17:34 |
| rm_work | 0::7 | 17:35 |
| rm_work | etc? | 17:35 |
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| rm_work | i've never looked at aegis creds before | 17:35 |
| rm_work | is that what they're supposed to look like? | 17:35 |
| javispedro | yes, can you pastebin the full list? | 17:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | quite possibly | 17:35 |
| rm_work | hrm | 17:35 |
| rm_work | yeah | 17:35 |
| rm_work | sec | 17:35 |
| javispedro | frigging chr google | 17:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | full syslog segment | 17:36 |
| javispedro | twice today, this is stupid | 17:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | HAHA | 17:36 |
| javispedro | ᏣᏲᏍᏗ - linux SYS_CAP_SETUID - Ꮭ ᏱᏓᏙᎵᎩ ᏂᎦᎥ ᏕᎦᎾᎥᎢ | 17:36 |
| javispedro | potentially unicode crap to you | 17:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | learn cherokee instead of bitching ;-P | 17:36 |
| radiofree | XChat IRC wants to install a font "Cherokee" | 17:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | (unicode crap) actually not, renders fine here | 17:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | dang a cool font | 17:37 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, do you plan on making a release of 'Mer' for ARMv6? | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: yes | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: in fact i just bootstrapped the port for it | 17:38 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps :) | 17:38 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, I want to buy a Raspberry Pi for myself and I want to run MeeGo on it :) | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | Venemo: guess why i'm making it.. | 17:39 |
| Venemo | Stskeeps, I was guessing you're making it for your N8x0 | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | that's also a good reason but not only :P | 17:39 |
| Venemo | :) | 17:40 |
| Venemo | hm, I thought I was on #meego ... eh. | 17:40 |
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| rm_work | Stskeeps: thought Mer was dead O_o | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | rm_work: many us of went into meego and well, meego isn't living up to the promise atm | 17:50 |
| rm_work | DocScrutinizer / javispedro: sorry, got sidetracked by actual work for a sec | 17:50 |
| djszapi | yep, it seems everything works just fine with open mode. | 17:51 |
| djszapi | and I could just load my custom kernel module fine. | 17:53 |
| harbaum | Stskeeps: is mer-reloaded softfp? | 17:55 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: it doesn't care about binary compatibility really so it has armv7 softfp/hardfp, armv6 softfp, non-atom in due time.. | 17:55 |
| rm_work | DocScrutinizer / javispedro: http://pastebin.com/nzPNDgFi | 17:55 |
| rm_work | had to type it all out by hand | 17:56 |
| javispedro | uuuuuuuh | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: 400 source packages derived from meego, no UX'es or hw adaptations within it, they're built on top seperately | 17:56 |
| javispedro | rm_work: no need, it was just curiosity! :) | 17:56 |
| rm_work | lol | 17:56 |
| javispedro | rm_work: either way it seems that you are running it as root | 17:56 |
| javispedro | rm_work: try user@ | 17:56 |
| harbaum | Stskeeps: sounds like a useful concept. is gles mandatory? | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: just a very good html5/qml/js/pyside stack, though you can do binary qt apps if you want | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: planning on llvmpipe support | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | and DGLES on top of stuff like nvidia | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | (dgles is gles on top of GL) | 17:57 |
| harbaum | so i'll keep my beagle setup in working order ... just in case :-) | 17:57 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: oh, does dgles do 2.0 these days? O.o | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: i thought so | 17:58 |
| javispedro | not last time I tried.. | 17:58 |
| harbaum | gles on top of gl??? What's that good for (besides development)? | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: well, at least the nokia qemu one | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: some GL stacks don't export ES | 17:58 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: that's quite interesting | 17:59 |
| javispedro | I should look at and see if it can be separated from qemu.. | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: https://meego.gitorious.org/qemu-maemo/gles-libs/trees/master/dgles2 | 17:59 |
| Stskeeps | harbaum: .. such as nvidia chipsets, which there are a few of, due to nvidia ion | 17:59 |
| rm_work | javispedro: ah, i guess it does not give cred failures if i run as user?! | 17:59 |
| rm_work | interesting | 18:00 |
| javispedro | rm_work: it won't give a few of those at least :) | 18:00 |
| djszapi | rm_work: why not mplayer2 ? | 18:00 |
| rm_work | i was doing most of my testing as root since i was also running other commands for statistics inbetween | 18:00 |
| rm_work | djszapi: it is mplayers | 18:00 |
| rm_work | err | 18:00 |
| rm_work | djszapi: it is mplayer2 | 18:00 |
| djszapi | [297499.239227] Aegis: mplayer verification failed (source origin check) | 18:00 |
| rm_work | djszapi: still same executable name | 18:00 |
| djszapi | ohhh | 18:00 |
| rm_work | http://ageofikon.com/prh/index.php?Action=list&System=.%2F&Arg=mplayer&Section=&Repo=0 | 18:01 |
| rm_work | i packaged mplayer2 2.0 | 18:01 |
| djszapi | good | 18:02 |
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| rm_work | javispedro: doesn't appear to be giving any at all | 18:02 |
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| rm_work | also, it looks like maybe it DOES have hwaccel already!? | 18:02 |
| javispedro | so it works then? | 18:02 |
| rm_work | wtf | 18:02 |
| javispedro | rm_work: that would be news to me, I doub it | 18:03 |
| rm_work | these are not the results i was getting last week, i swear | 18:03 |
| rm_work | but | 18:03 |
| javispedro | I guess the 1Ghz is already enough for some interesting video | 18:03 |
| rm_work | it couldn't possibly be decoding this x264 that fast without it | 18:03 |
| rm_work | how can i open a second terminal window | 18:04 |
| djszapi | use screen =p | 18:05 |
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| rm_work | yeah | 18:05 |
| rm_work | but i wanted to be able to taskswitch between them easily :( | 18:06 |
| rm_work | wtf why is my n950 swapping | 18:06 |
| rm_work | ok attempting to gather stats | 18:07 |
| rm_work | this is much harder when i can't WATCH atop, have to run it in screen in the background and switch back super fast after killing the video | 18:08 |
| javispedro | ssh | 18:08 |
| M4rtinK | what about a remote SSH login ? | 18:08 |
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| rm_work | normally i would do that | 18:11 |
| rm_work | but no network here at work | 18:11 |
| rm_work | very suboptimal testing conditions | 18:12 |
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| rm_work | so yeah, ok, it is... not? using hwaccel. i think. | 18:12 |
| rm_work | fairly certain possibly | 18:12 |
| rm_work | lol | 18:12 |
| javispedro | it can't | 18:13 |
| rm_work | i cought atop at exactly the wrong time | 18:13 |
| rm_work | :( | 18:13 |
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| Stskeeps | man, this place is idle for once | 20:53 |
| berndhs | Stskeeps: that's because i haven't started complaining about Qt Gestures :) | 20:55 |
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| hiemanshu | does the keyboard have a backlight? I cant remember if it does :/ | 21:06 |
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| wazd | hiemanshu: yes, but not always :P | 21:07 |
| hiemanshu | wazd: ah | 21:07 |
| wazd | hiemanshu: when it's in a good mood :) | 21:07 |
| hiemanshu | too hard trying to type in a dark room, is this nokias way of getting you to use the VKBD? | 21:07 |
| wazd | hiemanshu: I guess it's a software bug | 21:08 |
| hiemanshu | wazd: or a conspiracy :P | 21:08 |
| * wazd winks | 21:09 | |
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| rZZZr | hiemanshu: i think it depends on the pm profile | 21:14 |
| hiemanshu | well battery is full | 21:15 |
| rZr | Venemo: have you tested bip | 21:15 |
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| DocScrutinizer | or znc | 21:32 |
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| rZr | DocScrutinizer: do you prefer that one ? | 21:34 |
| DocScrutinizer | well, I for some reason I can't recall anymore switched from bip to znc | 21:34 |
| rZr | then we should test it on irc-chatter | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | I think bip has no automatic buffer playback | 21:35 |
| rZr | i put it on my todo list | 21:35 |
| DocScrutinizer | while znc at least notices a dropped connection after a short while and plays back buffer from that moment on at next connect | 21:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | then bip even had a bug for me, about parsing the <time> parameter to playback command | 21:36 |
| rZr | i plan to use it along bitlbee for xmpp | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | which resulted in whole buffer getting played back each time | 21:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | znc has some other small issues, e.g it doesn't work for concurrent xchat & Konversation clients | 21:38 |
| rZr | I'll have to backport it to lenny :( | 21:38 |
| DocScrutinizer | probably just easy enough | 21:39 |
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| DocScrutinizer | I had to build it on centOS ;-D | 21:40 |
| rZr | not harmattan ? :) | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | lol, znc on HARM? what for? | 21:40 |
| DocScrutinizer | even more silly than asterisk | 21:41 |
| rZr | for a fanless freedombox | 21:41 |
| rZr | i wish a bnc that supports xmpp +sip too | 21:49 |
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| Venemo | rZr, what is bip? | 21:59 |
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| rZr | Venemo: an irc gateway | 22:23 |
| rZr | Venemo: apt-get install bip on your debian box | 22:23 |
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| djszapi_ | hi fiferboy | 23:08 |
| djszapi_ | Could you manage your security issue or do you still need my assistance ? | 23:08 |
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| Venemo_N950 | meh, my N950 screen became very scratchy in the past 2 weeks | 23:24 |
| djszapi_ | Venemo :) | 23:25 |
| Venemo_N950 | :( | 23:26 |
| Venemo_N950 | djszapi_, this is no laughing matter | 23:27 |
| djszapi_ | ok, let us cry :) | 23:27 |
| djszapi_ | yep, things like that happen... | 23:27 |
| Venemo_N950 | :P | 23:27 |
| Venemo_N950 | at least we know it's not gorilla glass | 23:28 |
| berndhs | and keep your diamond rings away from the glass | 23:28 |
| Venemo_N950 | if I could afford diamond rings... | 23:28 |
| djszapi_ | Venemo: there was an android phone last night at the company party with completely broken glasses ... swiping worked as if it had been a new gadget. | 23:29 |
| Venemo_N950 | :D | 23:29 |
| djszapi_ | mmm, I should have made a picture about it .. :) | 23:30 |
| djszapi_ | anybody coming to the Qt Developer Days (Munich, October?) | 23:32 |
| Venemo_N950 | again, if I could afford it | 23:32 |
| Venemo_N950 | I think I couldn't pay for even the flight there. | 23:33 |
| DocScrutinizer | I can't even pay for the lunch there ;-P | 23:36 |
| DocScrutinizer | Muenchen, OMG | 23:36 |
| berndhs | how much is a cup of coffee there? about $5 ? | 23:37 |
| djszapi_ | I wonder whether there will be any Harmattan community event (probably nope). | 23:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | living that close to Munich we tend to stay as far away from it as possible ;-D | 23:37 |
| DocScrutinizer | i my case "close" is <200km | 23:40 |
| djszapi_ | where do you live ? | 23:43 |
| DocScrutinizer | ~weather EDDN | 23:44 |
| infobot | Nuernberg, Germany; (EDDN) 49-30N 011-03E 318M; last updated: 2011.09.01 2020 UTC; Dew Point: 53 F (12 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.94 in. Hg (1014 hPa); Relative Humidity: 77%; Temperature: 60 F (16 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Wind: Variable at 2 MPH (2 KT) | 23:44 |
| DocScrutinizer | so ~150km from Munich | 23:45 |
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