IRC log of #europython for Wednesday, 2012-07-04

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d0ugalRemember to get your ticket for the pizza lunch09:43
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TheSheepshalom10:02
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zeroka request to all speakers: please use something like bitly when adding links to your slides.10:10
floccamorning10:10
d0ugalMorning10:30
JerubTheSheep: howdy.10:35
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TheSheepJerub: how's life?10:41
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titozerok: except when the real link is smaller that bitly :)12:07
floccawhich track are you following?12:08
davidcramer_anyone want to bet on whether mitsuhiko is asleep or not12:09
davidcramer_:)12:09
TheSheep..zzZZ12:09
TheSheepI'm getting a cramp from sitting on the floor12:09
TheSheepI hope that people will start leaving the room soon so that I can sit12:10
davidcramer_oh i think he asleep :)12:13
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mollerstrandaye12:16
titomitsuhiko: we are waiting for you dude!12:17
mollerstrandthe lasagne room is by far the most packed I've been to so far12:18
mishok13have you seen it yesterday at Massa's talk?12:20
mollerstrandhm, no12:20
mishok13Higgs boson fuck yeah!12:20
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davidcramer_tito, he is probably asleep :)12:21
davidcramer_he went to sleep after i woke up12:21
davidcramer_you can blame NorthIsUp12:21
davidcramer_:)12:21
mollerstrandwhoa12:21
NorthIsUpi tried to wake him up12:21
titoNorthIsUp: when, right now?12:21
davidcramer_secretly we want flask to fail12:21
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titoNorthIsUp: we can all go in his bedroom so12:24
davidcramer_its by the dome :)12:24
mishok13no flask talk today then12:24
NorthIsUpyes, a walking tour of florence + a gathering around armin's bed for the talk12:24
davidcramer_lol12:24
titook, then just someone run into the room12:25
davidcramer_someone pretend to be armin12:25
titoet setup an hangout/skype/whatever to the lasagne room :)12:25
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davidcramer_lol12:40
davidcramer_https://twitter.com/mitsuhiko/status/22045183000879104112:40
davidcramer_so awesome12:41
mitsuhikotito: i'm locked in :(12:41
davidcramer_mitsuhiko, did you figire it out12:42
mitsuhikosomeone has to switch slots with me12:42
mitsuhikodavidcramer_: no12:42
davidcramer_theres like a round disk on the door12:42
davidcramer_you just slide it to the left12:42
davidcramer_its black12:42
mitsuhikooh ffs12:42
davidcramer_haha12:42
davidcramer_so much laughing here12:42
NorthIsUplulz12:42
davidcramer_:)12:42
hynek:D12:42
NorthIsUpi thought we went over this yesterday12:42
NorthIsUpyou know, how to open doors12:42
mitsuhikoin any ways i'm heading over there now ...12:43
NorthIsUpif you hurry you can have the last 10 min of your talk12:44
davidcramer_mitsuhiko, this epic joke will go on for years!12:49
hynektoo good to be true12:50
d0ugaldavidcramer_: I think you should give away his pizza ticket :)12:52
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mgedminlol13:10
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zeroktito: sure :-)13:15
zerokso… where is the meeting point for the lunch pizza? and when? :-)13:16
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zerokmitsuhiko: so basically the combination of you, europython and doors doesn't seem to work. perhaps a tent next year? :-)13:18
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juD2kI think I may need to watch the video of the talk I'm in. I need the ability to pause and think when talking about concurrency and transaction management.13:43
juD2kI think what I'm saying is: I'm too stupid for this talk :P13:44
jezdezjuD2k: pretty sure they just fail in explaining it13:44
juD2kjezdez: That's very kind of you :)13:44
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jezdezjuD2k: also saying that because I don't understand it, too :P13:45
jezdezIMO the speaker could try harder explaining the stuff13:46
juD2kI think the problem is that he understands it too well.13:46
jezdezyeah, happens13:46
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juD2kAh - I think that's the bit I misunderstood.13:51
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juD2k(Sorry for anyone not in this talk) :)13:51
juD2kzerok: Are you still looking for info about pizza?13:52
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juD2kI guess that means that zerok is currently eating pizza :)13:57
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mishok13https://ep2012.europython.eu/pyddle is amazingly simple, given that the price for win was a macbook15:03
* mishok13 should have skipped drinking yesterday15:03
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zerokjuD2k: ^_°15:15
zerokjuD2k: i was closing my laptop early so not to keep you guys waiting ;-) and then we waited for jezdez anyway … :-P15:15
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mgedminnice trick: enable profiling in production via a query arg (assuming an admin is authenticated), run the request in a background task via celery so gunicorn won't kill it after 30s16:04
mgedmin(also so the browser wouldn't time out)16:04
zerokthat name would be so more awesome in pseudo-latin ^_^16:05
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d0ugaljuD2k: Where you at?16:45
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davidcramer_we have taken over the australia room16:47
d0ugalThere is an australia room?16:48
davidcramer_ya its some little room in the hallway16:48
d0ugalorite16:48
d0ugalI tried to get into the AI one but was denied16:48
d0ugalit's full16:48
d0ugals/one/talk/16:48
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mitsuhikodavidcramer_: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1145-xJIsg16:56
Jarusmitsuhiko is your talk tomorrow on 14:30 the same like 15:30 or is 15:30 a Q&A session?17:00
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davidcramer_mitsuhiko, http://www.starforge.com/17:02
d0ugalBeer across the river17:17
d0ugaljezdez,  juD2k: ^17:18
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zerokis there some kind of webinterface for znc logs?17:55
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Jaruszerok write it by yourself with flask and mangodb but only mangodb18:14
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zerokJarus: i hate you so much18:18
Jaruszerok: thanks18:19
zerokJarus: at least i already had my revenge. you're using znc now18:19
mgedminum18:20
mgedminno audio in the overflow room18:20
mollerstrandthese interwebs are really very slow atm18:20
mgedminoh! it started working just now18:21
zerokmollerstrand: cable + vpn FTW!18:21
mollerstrandzerok: ah, yes. if only.18:23
mgedminhehe we're seeing the presenter's internal screen feed, not the one that goes to the projector18:24
zerokso let's do a countdown when the shout for larger fonts comes again ^_^18:24
mgedmintiny font slide coming right up!18:24
mgedminthere :)18:24
zerokoh yes <318:24
mishok13TINY FONT18:24
Jarusmore tiny fonts!18:24
mishok13i have some18:25
mishok13documentclass[8pt]{beamer}18:27
mishok13meat has to be rare, folks18:29
hynekugh kerning18:29
zerokmishok13: +118:29
zerokso… how much meat do we get tonight? 300g?18:30
* hynek goes for the whole thing18:30
hynekjust like last year <318:30
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zeroki'm thinking about upgrading18:30
hynekpeople at my table laughed at first but thenwere nnibbly sadly their bones watching me devouring18:31
mishok131 kilo is a good start18:32
zerokyeah, porterhouse steaks really just start there18:32
hynekmost of it is just bone anyway18:33
zerokhynek: how much was is? (the difference to 35USD i mean)18:35
mgedminouch, is that a stupid font, or bad monitor aspect ratio?18:35
zeroks/USD/EUR18:35
mgedminthe cat didn't look squashed18:35
hynekzerok: please präzisier your question, not sure what you're asking :)18:36
mishok13"präzisier" WAT18:36
zerokhynek: did you still only pay 35EUR or did you have to pay more for the whole thing when skipping the first course last year?18:36
zerokmishok13: stop it. i always have to think about a sailor with a horse head when that word comes up!18:36
hynekzerok: you have to pay extra for the other two thirds of the steak. i think around 15 €?18:36
zerok:-P18:36
zerokhynek: ah, that's reasonable. *upgrading* :-)18:37
hynekaye18:37
hynekbest meat ever, that'sthe reason I'm here ;)18:37
zerokhynek: :-)18:37
mishok13wall of text18:38
hynekfor your anticipation pleasure: http://hynek.tumblr.com/post/6821798651/the-hard-life-of-an-europython-2011-attendee18:39
mishok13I can almost smell it18:42
mgedminhehe, presentation with libreoffice on ubuntu running inside virtualbox on mac os x18:44
mishok13pycon is underlined18:44
mishok13we need to go deeper18:45
mgedmin"happy colonial betrayal day"18:45
mishok13i think almost every day in UK can be called that18:47
mishok13uh, I've seen this at PyCon 201118:47
mishok13the telescopes are going to move!18:48
mishok13it's running on PyPy and uses Twisted18:49
Jerubwhat's his irc nick?18:50
Jerubi feel like i should know who that is.18:50
mishok13no idea :)18:56
floxSoon sad, Vim guru19:01
floxfunny thing19:01
floxjs developer use windows... a pity ;)19:05
mishok13a pain19:06
mishok13has anyone got to the end screen in Fitocracy already?19:13
floxit's only iOS?19:14
zerokflox: seems like it19:14
floxthey should do a web mobile app19:15
mgedmin(nobody stood up in the overflow room :)19:15
* hynek objects19:15
zerokbrilliant. managed to stay sitting :-P19:16
mishok13standing up during hangover is hard19:16
* hynek was busy putting away my notebook19:16
mishok13cheater19:16
Jaruswe should report zerok by fitocracy ;)19:19
zerokJarus: the moment they have an android app you're definitely free to do so :-P19:19
mishok13http://www.quora.com/Will-Fitocracy-develop-an-Android-app19:20
mishok13wonderful answer19:20
* hynek just leaves http://www.slideshare.net/dings/dont-play-games-with-me-promises-and-pitfalls-of-gameful-design here19:21
Jarushttp connections on europython sucks...19:21
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mishok13mitsuhiko as a keynote speaker?19:22
mishok13i wouldn't bet on that...19:22
hynekthey have lockless sliding doors in Japan, why not19:23
* hynek hides19:23
mgedmin:D19:24
mishok13plus you can just knock them out because they're so lightweight19:24
hynekthey can give him an emergency cutter19:25
mishok13they also have to make sure that Armin has no access to sake19:25
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hynekhttp://xkcd.com/323/19:27
mgedminI don't suppose there's free space in the main room?19:29
mishok13I assume Armin believes in Ballmer's plateau19:29
mishok13mgedmin, there's actually19:29
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Jerubthere's space for people to sit in the main room19:30
hyneki guess it'll get emptier, the bitbucket drinkup is now19:31
mgedminmishok13, thanks!19:31
hyneki see lots of free places19:31
* mgedmin is here now :)19:31
Jerubhm. bitbucket.19:31
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Jerubi wonder if i can wrangle a ticket to that at short notice.19:31
Jerubi <3 hg19:31
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hynekJerub: weirdo19:31
mishok13awesome last name19:31
* mgedmin agrees19:32
hynekborn to bof19:32
hynek*bofh19:32
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hynekJerub: http://bitbucket-florence.eventbrite.com/19:34
Jerubhm. it's a bit of a walk.19:41
mishok13it's a test19:42
Jarusits near to the dinner19:42
mishok13a test that will show how much you really love Mercurial19:42
hynekironically they write that you should come to talk about git19:43
Jerubpfft19:44
Jarusgit ftw! ;)19:46
zerokwe should perhaps all go with bitbucket t-shirts to the bitbucket meetup ;-)19:53
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hynekgithub tshirts would be way more fun. or hipster style in sourceforge t-shirts19:56
hynek"cvs is enough for everybody"19:57
mishok13GNU Savannah19:57
mishok13that would show those DVCS hipsters19:57
floxbzr forever19:58
* flox jokes19:58
mishok13as in, takes forever to do anything19:58
* mishok13 not sure if joking19:59
floxbzr + rosetta .... nightmare19:59
JerubArch!19:59
hynekwith arch checking in is more work than actual coding20:00
hynekdarcs was really nice though20:00
Jerubheh. until you hit an O(n!) on a patch merge20:00
hynekbzr is a joke though…there must be some sleep(random()) all over the code20:01
floxno advret for the python-diversity group?20:01
floxadvert20:01
Jerubimposter syndrome: we all feel that. i think...20:03
floxat I love is the bzr auto-repacking, occuring 5 times-a-day20:04
flox... makes me drink more coffee20:04
* mgedmin loves the bzr-gtk notifications that cause weird progress bars to show up on his desktop and never go away20:05
Jerubhey. it's not like i care. i use perforce.20:05
mgedmin(almost as much as internal bzr errors whenever I try to do something non-trivial like, oh, say, merge a branch)20:05
floxwe need a hg-bzr plugin based on something less insane20:06
mishok13p4 ftw20:06
floxlike dulwich for git20:06
flox(maybe it exists ...)20:07
Jarushave someone else the problem to get massive multicast packages from the conference network?20:14
JarusI recive 300KB/s since some times which are only Multicast packages.20:15
mishok13no idea20:16
* mishok13 too lazy to check20:16
hynekmore people and women :D20:16
mishok13very little women around20:24
mgedmindid you mean very few?20:24
mgedminor are you actually referring to their size?20:24
mishok13i think he ment few20:24
mishok13but in my head I actually pictured little women20:25
mishok13at my university there were 6 girls in our class, out of ~25 people, all of them graduated but none of them became programmers20:27
mishok13everyone was helping girls during all years of their education and they happily accepted this help20:28
mishok13how would somebody even try to tackle this problem?20:29
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