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| samastur_ | hi | 19:48 |
| dboddie | Hi | 19:49 |
| moreati | Evening | 19:52 |
| Joe202 | Hello all (I can only stay fror ~15 mins tho') | 19:59 |
| moreati | zeth: ping | 20:00 |
| moreati | Joe202: At this rate the meeting may not have started by then :/ | 20:02 |
| Joe202 | I'll hang around and see. | 20:03 |
| dboddie | moreati: Is there an agenda? | 20:06 |
| moreati | dboddie: http://wiki.europython.eu/MeetingAgenda20100617 | 20:07 |
| dboddie | moreati: Thanks. | 20:07 |
| moreati | I guess we'll have to start | 20:07 |
| moreati | #startmeeting | 20:08 |
| moreati | PRESENT | 20:08 |
| Joe202 | PRESENT | 20:08 |
| samastur_ | PRESENT | 20:09 |
| dboddie | PRESENT | 20:09 |
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| ghum | PRESENT | 20:09 |
| moreati | I guess that's all for now | 20:10 |
| moreati | TOPIC Apologies | 20:10 |
| moreati | Richard Taylor and Paul Bodie noted theirs | 20:10 |
| moreati | John Pinner will hopefully join us at 1830 BST | 20:11 |
| moreati | any other? | 20:11 |
| moreati | Darren Worrall hopefully same as pinner | 20:12 |
| moreati | TOPIC Talks and Scheduling | 20:13 |
| moreati | The schedule is just about finalised, bar the following | 20:13 |
| moreati | Simon Phipps can no longer keynote on Monday. pinner was looking into alternates | 20:14 |
| dboddie | That's a shame. :-/ | 20:14 |
| moreati | The Wednesday keynote is likely to be Russell Winder (I think he's agreed) | 20:15 |
| moreati | Thursday's morning keynote will be Guido | 20:15 |
| ghum | will simon be rescheduled or will he not be available at all? | 20:15 |
| moreati | He's going to OSCON I think, won't be available at all | 20:15 |
| moreati | This leaves 4 lunchtime slots unfilled http://www.europython.eu/talks/timetable/ and without candidates | 20:16 |
| ghum | Last meeting we were talking about additional LightningTalk slots | 20:17 |
| ghum | some people agreed that one block is not enough | 20:17 |
| moreati | I'm proposing that we redistribute the 8 afternoon talks from the thursday afternoon, into that slot to Mon and Tues | 20:18 |
| Joe202 | Sorry - got to go! | 20:18 |
| dboddie | That's useful, then. Some pre-lunch lightning talks. | 20:18 |
| dboddie | Joe202: See you! | 20:18 |
| ghum | but LT better work on day 2 and 3; not on day 1 - | 20:18 |
| moreati | and wednesday, along with the recruitment event split into 2. That | 20:18 |
| ghum | so, if there is rescheduling done ... it would be good to move talks from tu and wed to mion, and fill the slots with LT on Tu or Wed | 20:19 |
| moreati | ghum I'm not suggesting we move the lightning talks from thursday, I'm suggesting we move the block of eight scheduled talks | 20:19 |
| ghum | i understand, moreati | 20:19 |
| ghum | just thinking it is more effective to have 2 blocks of LT | 20:19 |
| ghum | instead of one bigger block | 20:20 |
| ghum | experience in previous conferences was, after the first LT block people are encouraged to give LTs | 20:20 |
| ghum | to fill the FIRST block allways is hard work and often does only partially work | 20:20 |
| moreati | Then we make the 14:00 slot into lightning talks and move the 17:00 slot up and finish early on the final day | 20:20 |
| ghum | that is also a nice idea | 20:21 |
| moreati | so lightning talks on thursday from 14:00 until 16:30 and then CLOSE | 20:21 |
| ghum | that would be okay. But again I also propose to move 2 Slots from Wed and 2 Slots from Thu to Monday, and fill those 2 slots in wed with LTs | 20:22 |
| ghum | (as an alternative) | 20:22 |
| moreati | ghum huh? | 20:23 |
| ghum | moreati: instead of moving the 8 afternoon talks from Thursday to monday, just move 4 of them, and 4 of wednesdays talk to monday | 20:24 |
| ghum | so thursday would end one slot sooner | 20:24 |
| ghum | and on tuesday there would open one slot for LTs | 20:24 |
| ghum | c/tuesday/wednesday | 20:24 |
| ghum | sorry | 20:24 |
| moreati | Ah I'm with you | 20:25 |
| moreati | I'll write up both and post to the mailing list | 20:25 |
| moreati | OK? | 20:25 |
| ghum | yeah. | 20:25 |
| ghum | Just lobbying for another LT slot on Tuesday or wednesday :) | 20:25 |
| ghum | that makes filling the 2,5hours on thursday MUCHO EASIER | 20:26 |
| moreati | ACTION moreati to write up 2 scheduling proposals to mailing list | 20:26 |
| ghum | moreati: could you use talks from tuesday in "my" proposal, not from wednesday, please? | 20:26 |
| ghum | +1 | 20:26 |
| moreati | Please could you write me an email, I want to keep this meeting quick, and I just lost my grasp of which talks you're asking to move. | 20:28 |
| ghum | will to. | 20:28 |
| moreati | Cheers | 20:28 |
| moreati | alex@moreati.org.uk | 20:28 |
| moreati | TOPIC Sponsorship | 20:29 |
| dboddie | I've been out of the loop on this. Any news from John? | 20:29 |
| moreati | I'm afraid not, we'll have to skip this one. | 20:30 |
| moreati | and hope he can join us | 20:30 |
| moreati | TOPIC Registration | 20:30 |
| moreati | To date 273 delegates with 5 partners have registered | 20:31 |
| moreati | 43 have booked for tutorials | 20:31 |
| ghum | are all speakers registerd? | 20:31 |
| ghum | is there some checking left to do? | 20:31 |
| moreati | ghum: Checking of whether all speakers have booked, or something else? | 20:32 |
| ghum | checking whether all speakers have booked | 20:32 |
| moreati | I haven't checked, volunteers welcome | 20:32 |
| ghum | how can I help? | 20:32 |
| ghum | (will ask again in mail, better there) | 20:33 |
| moreati | Scratch that actually, bookings are in the protx cart which only John has the login too AFAIK | 20:33 |
| ghum | okay | 20:34 |
| moreati | ACTION moreati to check with pinner on speaker bookings | 20:34 |
| ghum | will ask on the lsit | 20:34 |
| ghum | I am offering my help | 20:34 |
| dboddie | ghum is offering to remind speakers, I believe. | 20:34 |
| moreati | ghum: cheers, It might need a login we can't give but please ask on list. | 20:34 |
| moreati | dboddie: ah right I see, offer much appreciated | 20:35 |
| ghum | yes, if I have the fitting access :) | 20:35 |
| ghum | that is: ability to check "is he registered" :) | 20:35 |
| ghum | ... writing to list | 20:35 |
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| moreati | evening pinner we're just on registration | 20:36 |
| moreati | Do you know whether all speakers have booked? | 20:36 |
| pinner | good evening all | 20:36 |
| dboddie | Hello | 20:36 |
| ghum | hello pinenr | 20:36 |
| pinner | moreati: no, I havent checked, but I do know they have not all booked | 20:36 |
| ghum | pinner | 20:36 |
| pinner | ghum: hello | 20:37 |
| ghum | I offered my help in mail, that is something I can do from outside the island | 20:38 |
| moreati | pinner Having dug through, I think I have a protx login, so I'll generate a list of speakers who haven't booked and pass it to ghum. | 20:38 |
| moreati | ghum: if you could chase that list it would be great | 20:38 |
| pinner | moreati: protx? | 20:38 |
| moreati | pinner: payment processor, which I've evidently got wrong | 20:39 |
| moreati | I mean romancart | 20:40 |
| pinner | moreati: it's romancart. what's needed is for someone to go through all the bookings and set the speaker flag in my local database, then we can report on these things. | 20:40 |
| pinner | someone == me probably! | 20:40 |
| moreati | pinner: with ssh/X I could take the load off maybe? | 20:41 |
| ghum | On the other hand: if there is a booking database I can read online, and a speaker list, I am willing to do the comparing | 20:41 |
| pinner | ghum: it's not web-based | 20:42 |
| ghum | okay ... | 20:42 |
| pinner | moreati:maybe, thanks. I'm away in Cornwal this wekend for a friend's wedding and will try and fit in an hour or two on it. | 20:43 |
| pinner | moreati: if i | 20:43 |
| moreati | pinner: okay, thanks | 20:44 |
| pinner | moreati: if I download the ex-Django talks pickles first I can use them as a reference even if I have no internet access | 20:44 |
| moreati | ACTION: pinner or moreati to generate list of unbooked speakers | 20:45 |
| moreati | TOPIC Accommodation | 20:45 |
| moreati | I've nothing to add on this. Anybody else? | 20:46 |
| pinner | no | 20:46 |
| moreati | TOPIC Publicity | 20:46 |
| pinner | lost of publicity needed to drum up delegates! | 20:47 |
| moreati | Zeth nicely interjected a plug for us during a clp thread | 20:47 |
| dboddie | Very nicely done, I thought. :-) | 20:47 |
| moreati | Other than that, we all need to do more | 20:47 |
| moreati | Break even is roughly 350, and we're at 278. yes pinner? | 20:48 |
| * dboddie reminds everyone about http://wiki.europython.eu/Publicity | 20:48 | |
| pinner | moreati: 273 just now | 20:48 |
| moreati | Can't read my own phone... | 20:49 |
| pinner | 273 delegates, 5 partners, 43 tutorials | 20:49 |
| pinner | 1 tutorials person is not going to the conf | 20:49 |
| moreati | ACTION ALL Spam the world see http://wiki.europython.eu/Publicity for inspiration | 20:50 |
| samastur_ | ok | 20:50 |
| moreati | Whislt we're in the area. pinner how is sponsorship looking? | 20:50 |
| pinner | sponsorship has picked up | 20:51 |
| moreati | Packt publishing are now in.. | 20:51 |
| pinner | (by memory) we have Google, Bytemark, Oracle confirmed; Logilab have said they will sponsor again | 20:52 |
| pinner | Packt Publishing have signed up as well | 20:52 |
| pinner | We need to approach Ableton | 20:52 |
| moreati | and of course The Linux Emporium is in.. | 20:53 |
| moreati | okay, sounds good | 20:53 |
| pinner | I have formally requested sponsorship from the PSF, they had left it off the next board agenda, but mal and Pat Campbell are making sure it will be discussed, however last MOndays board meeting was postpones and we won't get an answer for a copul | 20:54 |
| moreati | Anything else on sponsorship or publicity? | 20:54 |
| pinner | for a couple of weeks | 20:54 |
| moreati | oh, my mistake. I thought that PSF sponsorship had been confirmed. | 20:55 |
| pinner | moreati: no, it didn't get onto the last board agenda | 20:55 |
| moreati | TOPIC Infrastructure | 20:56 |
| moreati | I missed this one. Quentin and I still need to visit the Conservatoire. | 20:56 |
| pinner | moreati: we need conch for that, he's due to go to the venue soon | 20:56 |
| moreati | ACTION moreati to contact and visit venue with conch | 20:57 |
| pinner | we're running out of time to order an ADSL line for the bmi sprints | 20:57 |
| moreati | pinner I'll see if I can do that | 20:58 |
| pinner | moreati: thanks | 20:58 |
| moreati | Anyone want to add or ask anything on Infrastructure? | 20:58 |
| moreati | okay | 20:59 |
| dboddie | I'm guessing the audio and video people have a plan. | 20:59 |
| pinner | moreati: I suggest that we invite Rhubarb to the next PyWM meeting to sort things out on streaming and A/V | 20:59 |
| moreati | pinner: okay, but I'm in Northampton on that Saturday, sorry | 21:00 |
| moreati | Zeth can have this one | 21:00 |
| pinner | moreati: and I'm not available all day either ! | 21:00 |
| moreati | ACTION Zeth to invite rhubarb radio to next PyWM meeting on Sat 26 June | 21:00 |
| pinner | moreati: let's discuss this outside | 21:01 |
| moreati | indeed | 21:01 |
| moreati | TOPIC Keynotes and Invited speakers | 21:01 |
| moreati | As mentioned already Sion Phipps has double booked himslef so won't be attending | 21:02 |
| moreati | *Simon | 21:02 |
| moreati | Bruce Lawson has confirmed | 21:02 |
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| moreati | we've asked Russell Winder to speak on the Wednesday | 21:02 |
| moreati | pinner has russell answered? | 21:02 |
| pinner | I'm hoping that Richard Jones can do a State of Python talk | 21:03 |
| moreati | Guido will be doing Q&A on thurs | 21:03 |
| pinner | moreati: no word from russ yet, I'll chase him | 21:03 |
| moreati | Richard Jones to replace Simon on Mon? | 21:03 |
| moreati | pinner cheers | 21:03 |
| moreati | ACTION pinner to chase Russell Winder for keynote | 21:04 |
| pinner | moreati: maybe, Russ may be a better opener though | 21:04 |
| moreati | As discussed we're proposing to move scheduled talks into the post-lunchtime slots and finish earlier on the final day. 2 proposals to be sent by me to the list | 21:05 |
| moreati | also adding lightning talk sessions | 21:05 |
| pinner | sounds good, people will appreciate an earlier finish | 21:06 |
| moreati | Anything else on this topic? | 21:06 |
| pinner | and ghum will like more LTs ;-) | 21:06 |
| moreati | pinner: his is one of the 2 proposals :) | 21:06 |
| pinner | nothing from me | 21:06 |
| moreati | okay | 21:07 |
| moreati | TOPIC Volunteers | 21:07 |
| moreati | Anything we need to discuss here? | 21:08 |
| pinner | have we had any more volunteers? | 21:08 |
| moreati | Only Richard Taylor to replace Tim Couper as a session chair | 21:10 |
| pinner | Unless someone else wants to be Session captain? | 21:10 |
| samastur_ | not sure what that means | 21:11 |
| samastur_ | what does session chair actually do? | 21:11 |
| pinner | samastur: the session captain makes sure we have sufficient session chairs and schedules them to cover all talks, briefs them at the start of the conf, etc | 21:12 |
| samastur_ | ok, thanks | 21:12 |
| moreati | A team of volunteers act as session chairs, help speakers, introducing them and monitoring each room. Captain is their leader | 21:12 |
| pinner | http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity#Session_Chairs | 21:12 |
| moreati | Any more on volunteers? | 21:14 |
| samastur_ | sure, I can help with this | 21:14 |
| samastur_ | session chair that is | 21:14 |
| pinner | no, I think | 21:14 |
| moreati | TOPIC Next meeting | 21:15 |
| dboddie | We should ask on the list for volunteers. I'll send a mail. | 21:15 |
| pinner | samastur_: thanks! | 21:15 |
| moreati | Is everyone happy with 2 weeks again? | 21:15 |
| pinner | 2 weeks is ok by me | 21:15 |
| samastur_ | me too | 21:16 |
| ghum | oki | 21:16 |
| moreati | That would be Thursday 1 July 1830 bST 1930 CEST | 21:16 |
| dboddie | If it's OK with you, it's OK with me. :-) | 21:16 |
| pinner | +1 | 21:16 |
| lvh` | moreati: Is there some programmatic thing that understands those TOPIC and ACTION lines? reminds me of org-mode | 21:16 |
| lvh` | moreati: (If so, sorry if I just triggered it) | 21:16 |
| moreati | DECISION Next meeting I think that covers that for now. | 21:17 |
| moreati | lvh`: there was at one time, may still be. Eitther way they stick out | 21:17 |
| pinner | moreati: Nick has a script which does the analysis | 21:17 |
| moreati | TOPIC AOB | 21:17 |
| moreati | Nothing from me... | 21:18 |
| pinner | nor me | 21:18 |
| moreati | ghum dboddie? | 21:18 |
| ghum | mese fine | 21:18 |
| ghum | meeting adjurned? | 21:19 |
| dboddie | Nothing from me, really. | 21:19 |
| moreati | yes | 21:19 |
| moreati | thank you all | 21:19 |
| dboddie | moreati: Thank you! | 21:19 |
| ghum | bye bye | 21:19 |
| pinner | moreati: you need a #endmeeting. then | 21:19 |
| moreati | ENDMEETING | 21:19 |
| ghum | and tnx to moreati | 21:19 |
| moreati | #ENDMEETING | 21:19 |
| moreati | knew I'd get that wrong.. | 21:19 |
| pinner | moreati: thank you, see you later? | 21:19 |
| moreati | thank you all for coming. Hope I didn't rush you too much. Didn't hit my goal of < 60 minutes | 21:20 |
| pinner | moreati: agenda was too long for that... | 21:20 |
| moreati | well anyway I must dash. | 21:21 |
| moreati | Pinner enjoy cornwall | 21:21 |
| dboddie | pinner: Are we still looking for sponsors? | 21:21 |
| moreati | ghum, I have your email thanks | 21:21 |
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| pinner | dboddie: yes, we need more sponsors if thay're out there | 21:21 |
| pinner | dboddie: who have you in mind? | 21:22 |
| * pinner waves goodnight | 21:23 | |
| dboddie | pinner: Just thought I'd send a request upstairs. I got mixed signals about budgets before. | 21:23 |
| * dboddie waves | 21:23 | |
| pinner | dboddie: they ought to join in... | 21:23 |
| samastur_ | could I get a sponsorship brochure? | 21:23 |
| samastur_ | my email address is markos@gaivo.net ...I can ask around here at local companies | 21:24 |
| pinner | samastur_: http://www.brumpy.net/epsponsorship/Europython%202010%20Brochure%20HiRES.pdf | 21:25 |
| samastur_ | thanks | 21:25 |
| * pinner is really going now, see you at sblug, moreati/zeth? | 21:26 | |
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| zeth | Hi all | 21:47 |
| zeth | was in transport | 21:47 |
| zeth | so couldn't make it | 21:47 |
| dboddie | No worries. We assigned all the tasks to you. ;-) | 22:03 |
| * dboddie heads home... | 22:03 | |
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