IRC log of #europython for Wednesday, 2010-05-12

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matti:)11:54
ambv:)14:30
* zeth waves at matti and at ambv 14:41
ambvhello megazeth14:42
zethHi!14:42
zethHow are you?14:42
* matti hugs zeth 15:00
* matti suffers at work today ...15:01
mattiLegacy old code that nobody maintains should die.15:01
zethYeah15:01
zethI have been given the task of exposing our data as OWL15:01
zethI have no idea what OWL is15:01
zethso I am trying to learn15:01
mattizeth: OWL rulez.15:03
mattizeth: Look at Sparkle database.15:03
zethI have been given a random file15:06
zethhttp://arts-itsee.bham.ac.uk/staff/zeth/uid-specimen.owl.xml15:06
zethwhich is some kind of thing created with the GUI program protege15:06
zethbut I am currently trying to find some Python library that will write OWL files for me15:06
zethbut haven't found anything pre-made yet15:07
zethlots of things for reading them15:07
zethnot for writing15:07
mattizeth: There is none.15:07
mattizeth: Descriptive logic libraries are hard to write.15:07
mattizeth: My friend (who is actually sitting on my left hand side at work).15:08
mattiStarted to work on one.15:08
mattihttp://code.bob.sh/hg/owlsugar/15:08
mattiKen's repository.15:08
mattizeth: The main thing when you want to master OWL and ontology.15:09
mattizeth: Is to understand how it works in terms of building logic and use relations between variety of things.15:09
mattizeth: So when you write or work on your reasoner it will be capable to make to connection between A and C in such a way that B can be "figure out" logically.15:10
mattiIts a very powerfull thing.15:10
zethI am trying out the owl sugar thing now15:12
mattiThere is a very funny video making laugh from that.15:12
mattihttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNJl9EEcsoE15:12
mattizeth: Its half-done.15:12
mattizeth: We (Ken) have no time ;]15:12
zethall software is half-done15:15
zethhalf-done and hlaf-baked :-)15:15
zethI installed it15:20
zethand generated the API documentation15:20
zethI'm none the wiser what to do with it though?15:20
zethIs it usable at the moment?15:20
aa_afternoon chaps15:32
zethHi aa_15:45
mattizeth: There should be some examples in the code/comments.16:29
mattizeth: Read w3c web site about OWL and web ontology as well.16:29
aa_zeth: any idea when the talks will be decided?16:50
zethaa_: pretty soon17:06
zethhave you submitted a talk yourself?17:06
zethWe basically know what they are17:06
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aa_zeth: yeah I submitted a glashammer talk19:14
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zethHi aa_19:18
zethstill there?19:18
zethaa_: your glashammer talk was accepted, so feel free to tell all the users and your friends, family and pets19:18
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aa_zeth: awesome! I was actually thinking "I better write a web framework and call it glashammer so I can speak about it!"19:49
zethcool19:53
zethI'll try to catch it19:53
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mattiHi ambv21:20
ambvhello matti21:20
ambvzeth: how is this talk schedule thing supposed to be sorted out? I mean, I submitted a talk proposal and no word from anyone yet.21:22
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