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| dreimark | openstreet gives a 500 | 00:53 |
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| dreimark | so currrently no info about the Conservatoire | 00:54 |
| dreimark | can one add please the address of The Etap Hotel and The Premier Inn to the wiki page http://www.europython.eu/registration/ | 01:06 |
| zeth | dreimark: who is one? | 01:47 |
| dreimark | me currently knows the The Premier Inn | 01:48 |
| dreimark | zeth: i wanted to look at maps and added already a google map. but some minutes ago I was surprised how much premier inn were around | 01:48 |
| dreimark | http://www.europython.eu/registration/ looks like I can't edit | 01:50 |
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| matti | zeth: You in? | 02:03 |
| matti | zeth: I have to admit, that infinte creativity of some speakers keeps at most impressed. | 02:04 |
| matti | ;] | 02:04 |
| matti | zeth: Next years, there has to be strict rules i.e. posting slides on the slide-share at the day of the conferece is NOT they way to go :P | 02:04 |
| matti | :) | 02:05 |
| matti | I mean, not when somebody else is waiting for your slides ;p | 02:06 |
| fuzzyman | well | 02:09 |
| fuzzyman | I don't think you'll get speakers to cooperate | 02:09 |
| fuzzyman | not all of them | 02:09 |
| fuzzyman | many speakers make adjustments right up until the last minute - or even start the slides a few days before the conference | 02:10 |
| fuzzyman | and we rely on the speakers for the conference | 02:10 |
| fuzzyman | PyCon US had *exactly* this debate | 02:10 |
| fuzzyman | (well - pretty much has this debate every year) | 02:11 |
| dreimark | btw. what are paces is that a length unit ? | 02:13 |
| matti | fuzzyman: I know. | 02:14 |
| fuzzyman | paces is about a yard I guess | 02:14 |
| matti | http://www00.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=paces | 02:16 |
| dreimark | thx and good night | 02:16 |
| matti | fuzzyman: It was just merely a wishful thinking ;] | 02:17 |
| matti | dreimark: Night ;] | 02:17 |
| fuzzyman | :-) | 02:17 |
| fuzzyman | fair enough | 02:17 |
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| matti | ;] | 02:19 |
| matti | fuzzyman: Its quite a common thing for intelligent people and engineers to be quite fluffy with the stuff they have to do... before the deadline ;] | 02:20 |
| fuzzyman | hehe | 02:21 |
| matti | If they could, they would bend a time and space to get few extra minutes more ;p | 02:21 |
| matti | Oh God. | 02:23 |
| matti | I suck as web design. | 02:23 |
| matti | My web page will always be an "index of". | 02:23 |
| * matti <- fail. | 02:23 | |
| matti | ;] | 02:24 |
| matti | Heheh | 02:27 |
| matti | I think... I need to have a word with one of the speakers ;p | 02:27 |
| matti | I just had a glance on his sample code ;p | 02:27 |
| fuzzyman | matti: which speaker? | 02:27 |
| matti | And he should attend "Code Clinic" talk ;] | 02:28 |
| fuzzyman | purely out of scientific interest... | 02:28 |
| matti | Andreas Kaempf | 02:28 |
| matti | I think... perhaps I am too pedantic ;p | 02:28 |
| matti | Haha | 02:29 |
| matti | # Test code, only runs from command line | 02:29 |
| matti | if __name__ == '__main__': print 'Sending SMS to ' + params['msisdn'] print send_sms('EuroPython rocks!') | 02:29 |
| matti | :P | 02:29 |
| matti | Anyway... | 02:31 |
| matti | fuzzyman: This project of mine... | 02:31 |
| matti | fuzzyman: I call it "PIMS" | 02:32 |
| matti | ;D | 02:32 |
| matti | fuzzyman: Platform Independent Monitoring System | 02:32 |
| matti | fuzzyman: Something I am crafting at work... at the moment... when I do have some spare time. | 02:32 |
| fuzzyman | aargh | 02:34 |
| fuzzyman | I mean sorry | 02:34 |
| fuzzyman | my wife is now nearly yelling at me | 02:34 |
| fuzzyman | or as close as she gets to yelling | 02:34 |
| fuzzyman | telling me to come to bed | 02:34 |
| fuzzyman | so I have to go | 02:34 |
| fuzzyman | :-( | 02:34 |
| fuzzyman | sorry Matti | 02:34 |
| fuzzyman | you will have to tell me tomorrow | 02:34 |
| matti | OK | 02:34 |
| matti | Sleep tight fuzzyman ;] | 02:35 |
| fuzzyman | g'night | 02:35 |
| matti | Heh. | 02:35 |
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| ghum | Have no fear, GHUM is here | 15:55 |
| zeth | yay! | 16:00 |
| zeth | ghum: you are doing very well so far in detective work and finding speakers | 16:00 |
| zeth | are there like 3 left who are MIA? | 16:01 |
| matti | ghum: :) | 16:01 |
| matti | Hehe | 16:01 |
| matti | We have speakers that are MIA? | 16:01 |
| matti | ;] | 16:01 |
| matti | Hi zeth | 16:01 |
| ghum | actually I am hunting 2 with twitter... | 16:01 |
| zeth | well out of 83 speakers, we lost 6 or something | 16:01 |
| matti | Aliens. | 16:01 |
| ghum | mese is chefghum @ twitter | 16:01 |
| matti | Blame aliens. | 16:01 |
| ghum | the list of 6 is down... | 16:02 |
| zeth | yep, I think 2 are found at least? | 16:02 |
| ghum | 2 are left | 16:02 |
| matti | We are still missing alot of talks. | 16:03 |
| matti | :< | 16:03 |
| ghum | we know chris vertonghen is not coming | 16:03 |
| ghum | Robert Lofthouse is on some hard rock or heavy metal festival and has no published phone number, I twitted him | 16:03 |
| zeth | Did we find tismer? | 16:03 |
| zeth | He always comes | 16:03 |
| ghum | trent nelson has a non-distinctive name. Googling him lead to nothing | 16:04 |
| matti | ghum: Google for his mail. | 16:04 |
| ghum | Chris was in contact with laura. The last 6 years chris scheduling concerning EP was allways very just in time | 16:04 |
| ghum | matti: first googler he is an organiser of EuroPython 2009 :) | 16:05 |
| zeth | I just checked the speaker system | 16:05 |
| zeth | trent nelson did not fill out any of the optional contact boxes | 16:05 |
| matti | :/ | 16:05 |
| ghum | that is the sad thing about topical email adresses ... they are ungoogleable | 16:07 |
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| matti | Mine is. | 16:11 |
| matti | ;] | 16:12 |
| LarstiQ | does anyone know if folks from Riverbank will be at EP? | 17:02 |
| dboddie | My sources indicate "yes". | 17:03 |
| dboddie | Are you looking to spend some money? ;-) | 17:03 |
| ghum | who is riverbank? | 17:04 |
| dboddie | ghum -> http://www.riverbankcomputing.com/ | 17:04 |
| ghum | ah, qt guys | 17:05 |
| ghum | googling riverbank gave to many hits :) | 17:05 |
| LarstiQ | dboddie: well, my employer already has Qt and PyQt commercial licenses | 17:05 |
| dboddie | :-) | 17:06 |
| LarstiQ | dboddie: thanks, do you also know which beers they drink? ;) | 17:06 |
| dboddie | LarstiQ: Yes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10144736%40N08/1383091852/in/set-72157601532640535/ | 17:08 |
| dboddie | LarstiQ: Looks like Guinness. | 17:08 |
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| CMooney | Evening all. | 18:51 |
| lac | evening | 18:52 |
| ghum | PRESENT | 18:52 |
| CMooney | ghum, not sure the meeting's started yet! | 18:52 |
| lac | you are a bit early, harald | 18:52 |
| CMooney | lol | 18:52 |
| ghum | not present .) | 18:53 |
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| lac | ghum: we have a new problem, in that Christian Tismer just found out his flight was not | 19:00 |
| ghum | was not? | 19:00 |
| lac | booked direct from LA to Birmingham but | 19:00 |
| lac | he has to go home to berlin first. | 19:00 |
| lac | thus he cannot make his time slot. :-( | 19:00 |
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| ghum | that sucks. anything we can dO? | 19:01 |
| pinner | Hello All :-) | 19:01 |
| pinner | what sucks? | 19:01 |
| xorAxAx | how should we handle the case that the person who booked the hotel room arrives later than other persons on the room? can we somehow communicate the other names to the hotel? | 19:02 |
| lac | christian's plane | 19:02 |
| lac | problems. tismer. | 19:03 |
| xorAxAx | hehe | 19:03 |
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| lac | well, the obvious thing is to give christian the empty wednesday 11.00 slot. | 19:03 |
| lac | though I wanted to give that to Bea when it looked like we would have lots of | 19:04 |
| lac | empty slots. Now that doesn't look as likely. | 19:04 |
| pinner | SO shall we start a meeting and follow some sort of plan? | 19:05 |
| xorAxAx | pinner: do you have an idea? | 19:05 |
| pinner | #startmeeting | 19:05 |
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| lac | PRESENT | 19:05 |
| ghum | PRESENT | 19:05 |
| dboddie | PRESENT | 19:06 |
| pboddie | PRESENT | 19:06 |
| pinner | xorAxAx: look at the list, I suggested a procedure yesterday! | 19:06 |
| pinner | PRESENT | 19:06 |
| pboddie | xorAxAx: And then copy the answer onto the Wiki. ;-) | 19:06 |
| pinner | TOPIC Apologies | 19:06 |
| pinner | None from me | 19:06 |
| dboddie | xorAxax -> PRESENT ;-) | 19:06 |
| xorAxAx | pboddie: heh | 19:06 |
| pinner | TOPIC Review Actions | 19:07 |
| lac | apologies from tartley; he is at a funeral and will not make the meeting. will read the notes from it | 19:07 |
| lac | and apologies, jacob isn't home yet but is coming. | 19:07 |
| LarstiQ | PRESENT | 19:07 |
| pinner | As noted in Agenda, most actions were completed :-) | 19:07 |
| fuzzyman | PRESENT | 19:07 |
| fuzzyman | but brb | 19:07 |
| pinner | Does anyone which to note anything else re last meeting? | 19:08 |
| matti | Hi pinner :) | 19:08 |
| lac | not me | 19:08 |
| pinner | matti: Hi, we need to speak after! | 19:08 |
| pinner | TOPIC Registration | 19:09 |
| CMooney | PRESENT | 19:09 |
| pinner | Latest report is at http://wiki.europython.eu/Organisers/ as usual | 19:09 |
| pinner | showing 411 delegates and 123 for tutorials | 19:09 |
| pinner | but I've just taken another two bookings making 123 | 19:10 |
| pinner | sorry 413 ! | 19:10 |
| lac | !! | 19:10 |
| pinner | any questions on that report/those figures? | 19:10 |
| pboddie | Yay! As they say. Even two people from Bermuda! | 19:10 |
| matti | pinner: About? | 19:10 |
| matti | pinner: I am going home in a second. | 19:10 |
| pinner | matti: about the DVD | 19:11 |
| matti | OK | 19:11 |
| matti | Something wrong with it? :< | 19:11 |
| pinner | matti: I'll try to mail you this evening, but you can have aDVD if we can have the master by Thursday evening | 19:11 |
| jacob22 | PRESENT and looking forward to the conference | 19:12 |
| pinner | matti: we have ordered the blanks and will try to get 430 burnt by Sunday | 19:12 |
| matti | pinner: We can. But we are missing talks. | 19:13 |
| pinner | APOLOGIES from moreati by SMS - is in bed with guts problems | 19:13 |
| pinner | matti: we can't put on what we don't have. Oh BTW you need to untar mine | 19:13 |
| matti | Eh. I still need to figure out how and what to do whith index.html. | 19:14 |
| matti | pinner: OK. | 19:14 |
| pinner | TOPIC Tutorials | 19:14 |
| pinner | We still do not have all the handouts: it will be very difficult to get them printed now, but we'll try | 19:14 |
| fuzzyman | oh poo | 19:15 |
| CMooney | pinner Mum says how do you need? | 19:15 |
| fuzzyman | do you have our one? | 19:15 |
| fuzzyman | IronPython? | 19:15 |
| CMooney | *how many do you need | 19:15 |
| pinner | and as for numbers, only half the students have checked-in so we'll pro-rate the numbers for room allocations and printing notes | 19:15 |
| fuzzyman | I can email it now if you don't... | 19:15 |
| fuzzyman | I was hoping tartley was on the case but didn't check - so you might have our | 19:15 |
| fuzzyman | *ours | 19:15 |
| pinner | CMooney: eh? explain | 19:16 |
| CMooney | pinner, Mum has a local printer that could be able to do it on short notice. | 19:16 |
| lac | tartley is busy with his family with grandfather's funeral. Do not expect him to be able to do much. | 19:16 |
| zeth | PRESENT | 19:17 |
| zeth | sorry to be late | 19:17 |
| zeth | got stuck at the office | 19:17 |
| pinner | CMooney: so have we! The problem is that we have only three working days left, only half the pdfs and no idea of how many are needed! | 19:17 |
| CMooney | ah right. ok. | 19:17 |
| pinner | So you'll just have to let us get on and make the best of a bad situation | 19:18 |
| pinner | tartley was chasing the tutors, we need someone else to do that while he is away. | 19:18 |
| jacob22 | There is only so much bending over backwards that we should do. If the tutors aren't in by the time you have to do the printing, they get to solve the problem. | 19:19 |
| pinner | jacob22: Agreed. | 19:19 |
| lac | Aha, I just heard from Robert Lofthouse. His mother is ill, he cannot make it. | 19:20 |
| lac | So that is a confirmed no-show | 19:20 |
| pinner | DECISION Tutors who have not submitted their notes must supply their own printed notes | 19:20 |
| fuzzyman | How do I find out if you have our tutorial handout material or not? | 19:20 |
| pinner | fuzzyman: on the wiki, there is a page tartley made to upload them | 19:20 |
| fuzzyman | ok | 19:21 |
| pinner | lac: next topic is talks | 19:21 |
| pinner | I don' think that there is much else to say about the tutorials... | 19:21 |
| pinner | TOPIC Talks | 19:21 |
| pinner | So we have a bit of re-scheduling to do | 19:22 |
| pinner | This needs to be done by tomorrow lunchtime to make the Programme Booklet | 19:22 |
| nickbooker | PRESENT | 19:22 |
| pinner | lac: if you can let me have the new schedule requirements say by midnight CEST I will put them up. OK? | 19:23 |
| lac | ok, I will make a new one as soon as this meeting is over | 19:24 |
| pinner | so the only problem person we left I think is Trent Nelson. Might be worth a phone call, if we have his number | 19:24 |
| pinner | worked with Simon Willison when email failed | 19:24 |
| zeth | Trent Nelson did not give us much contact details when he registered | 19:25 |
| lac | i.e. no address no phone number | 19:25 |
| zeth | 07753 424577 might do something | 19:26 |
| zeth | that is from his whois | 19:26 |
| dboddie | Don't all call at once... | 19:26 |
| zeth | could be him or his ISP | 19:26 |
| zeth | whois trentnelson.com | 19:27 |
| pinner | zeth: OK, shall we leave that with you? | 19:27 |
| zeth | erm, I try | 19:27 |
| fuzzyman | He is logged onto IRC | 19:27 |
| zeth | ah try that too | 19:27 |
| fuzzyman | trying to contact him that way ( tnelson on python-dev) | 19:27 |
| zeth | it is ringing | 19:28 |
| zeth | Had a random voicemail from orange | 19:28 |
| zeth | I left a message | 19:28 |
| pinner | Let's move on while that job is backgrounded... | 19:28 |
| pinner | TOPIC SWAG BAGS | 19:29 |
| pinner | Currently being printed, they will be available on Friday | 19:29 |
| pinner | Likewise the polo shirts | 19:29 |
| zeth | cool! | 19:29 |
| nickbooker | :-D | 19:29 |
| pinner | Although we will likely need a few more which we can order up to noon on Friday | 19:30 |
| * pboddie wonders if the shirts are striped if they're in swag bags | 19:30 | |
| pinner | for delivery on Monday | 19:30 |
| pinner | and I have arranged for them to deliver them to the Conservatoire with their van | 19:30 |
| zeth | pboddie: ;) | 19:30 |
| pinner | although we will need someone to be there to take delivery | 19:30 |
| zeth | We will be in there on Monday | 19:31 |
| CMooney | What time? | 19:31 |
| pinner | pboddie: the shirts are normal, but the swag bags are a puzzle... I won't say more | 19:31 |
| zeth | ;) | 19:31 |
| pinner | CMooney: early afternoon probably | 19:31 |
| pinner | ready for stuffing the bags | 19:32 |
| CMooney | Do you need someone to sign for them, because my mum has volunteerd. | 19:32 |
| pinner | Has everyone seen Yusdi's draft Programme ? | 19:32 |
| CMooney | Looks good. | 19:32 |
| pboddie | I left a comment on the Wiki. | 19:32 |
| * nickbooker likes the programme. | 19:32 | |
| CMooney | Still workingon the map, pretty much done. Has all local hotels, atms and a bureau_de_change | 19:32 |
| * lac likes the program | 19:32 | |
| pinner | CMooney: thye produced 50 yards, sorry metre (this is EUROpython) so no need we will have signed | 19:33 |
| pinner | OK, we have to have the booklet to the printers by tomorrow! | 19:33 |
| pinner | CMooney: needs to finish the map | 19:33 |
| pinner | lac: needs to get her picture | 19:34 |
| pinner | lac and pinner need to do the schedule | 19:34 |
| CMooney | I can have it done tonight, but Yusdi has to include it in the programme. | 19:34 |
| pinner | CMooney: mail it to him | 19:34 |
| CMooney | He still hasn't got back about the draft that I sent him. | 19:34 |
| zeth | did we ever find a map of the venue? | 19:35 |
| pinner | So taht's all under some sort of control... just about ;-) | 19:35 |
| zeth | We could just draw our own | 19:35 |
| pinner | zeth: I sent him one | 19:35 |
| zeth | grand | 19:35 |
| pinner | CD or DVD? | 19:35 |
| lac | jacob will get you a picture. | 19:35 |
| pinner | lac: I've sent Yusdi a secret picture, but we need a better one, so we need jacob's | 19:36 |
| pinner | matti has done a lot of work and produced a DVD with lots of nice things | 19:37 |
| pinner | but it's short on speakers' slides | 19:37 |
| pinner | even worse than usual | 19:37 |
| fuzzyman | what is Matti's contact address? | 19:37 |
| fuzzyman | please | 19:37 |
| pboddie | Are these slides for this year or for previous years? | 19:37 |
| zeth | fuzzyman: krzysztof.wilczynski@bcs.org.uk | 19:38 |
| zeth | pboddie: both | 19:38 |
| fuzzyman | thanks | 19:38 |
| zeth | the CD has lots of stuff | 19:38 |
| zeth | but the slides that are important is this year's | 19:38 |
| zeth | the slides that we want | 19:38 |
| pinner | CMooney: Yusdi has told me he is using your map :-) | 19:38 |
| CMooney | Yup, just got his email. | 19:38 |
| pinner | We have to go with what we have by tomorrow am, leaving matti time to put it together | 19:40 |
| * pboddie thinks about signing up for the bag-stuffing activity, if that's not too early on the Monday. | 19:40 | |
| dboddie | I think only a few people responded to matti about their slides. | 19:40 |
| dboddie | I guess we already have a list of abstracts on the CD. | 19:40 |
| zeth | [BTW on swag, I found a company that does promotional umbrellas, there may be more. Next year we should put a EuroPython umbrella in the Swag bag] | 19:41 |
| pinner | lac: can you nag speakers for their slides please? Momsie nagging worked with the speaker registrations ;-) | 19:41 |
| pinner | pboddie: it will be Monday pm, say 4 ish | 19:42 |
| lac | I have already started nagging speakers for their slides but it is an uphill battle. | 19:42 |
| nickbooker | zeth: Perhaps make a new wiki page IdeasFor2010? | 19:42 |
| pinner | lac: they do treat the rest of the conference with disrespect | 19:42 |
| zeth | well nickbooker only if it rains | 19:43 |
| pboddie | zeth: Umbrellas can be a problem if they're decently sized. Airport people make you check them in! | 19:43 |
| pinner | So we go with what we get by tomorrow (talk slides, not umbrellas) | 19:43 |
| zeth | this week is fantastic hot weather, next week is rainy, at least we are indoors I suppose | 19:43 |
| dboddie | Are sponsors putting things on the CD? | 19:43 |
| pinner | And we have a DVD, as matti has done so much work on it | 19:43 |
| lac | EP speakers this year have been remarkably ill in the last 3 weeks, hospitalised and the like so it is not just dispresect | 19:44 |
| dboddie | Kudos to matti. :-) | 19:44 |
| pinner | dboddie: only if they've given us something, and no one has | 19:44 |
| fuzzyman | just emailed Matti now... | 19:44 |
| fuzzyman | apologies it is so late :-( | 19:44 |
| fuzzyman | hopefully still space... | 19:44 |
| pboddie | You could put appropriately licensed pictures on the CD from previous conferences, too. | 19:45 |
| pinner | We will have a problem burning 4[345]0 DVDs in the time, and we may bring the robot to the Tutorials on Sunday, so we can nurse nit | 19:45 |
| pinner | s/nit/it/ | 19:45 |
| pinner | my scalp is itching ;-) | 19:45 |
| nickbooker | hehe | 19:46 |
| pinner | pboddie: too late for anything other than matti's done | 19:46 |
| zeth | maybe we should alcohol soap in the bag, if the speakers are so sickly | 19:46 |
| pboddie | pinner: Maybe next year. | 19:46 |
| zeth | europython branded painkillers | 19:46 |
| pinner | maybe we can shame the speakers into digital extraction for next year. | 19:46 |
| pinner | OK, not much more useful to say on talks... | 19:47 |
| zeth | well it is hard to get your talk finished when you are organising he conference, (that is my excuse) | 19:47 |
| pinner | zeth: you need to set an example, though | 19:47 |
| nickbooker | .-1s/he/the/ | 19:47 |
| pinner | if you can do it, so can everyone else | 19:48 |
| pinner | TOPIC On the Spot Volunteers and Activities | 19:48 |
| pinner | I'd like the badges done before Sunday, and I want to take Saturday off | 19:49 |
| CMooney | I could help saturday afternoon. | 19:49 |
| pinner | So I'd like volunteers for badge making at Clockwork on Friday | 19:49 |
| CMooney | At the emporium? | 19:49 |
| CMooney | Sign me up | 19:49 |
| pinner | Keith White has volunteered already | 19:49 |
| CMooney | Sign mum up too | 19:49 |
| nickbooker | CMooney: Saturday or Friday? | 19:49 |
| CMooney | Saturday | 19:49 |
| pinner | CMooney: thanks, and Mum | 19:50 |
| zeth | pinner: I try for tomorrow | 19:50 |
| nickbooker | I'll probably be in Saturday nursing the robots... | 19:50 |
| zeth | (pinner: I try for tomorrow with the talk for cd) | 19:50 |
| zeth | When are we doing setup? | 19:50 |
| zeth | Sat or sun? | 19:51 |
| pinner | zeth: OK, you need to make it availabel for matti in the morning | 19:51 |
| pinner | zeth: definition of setup? | 19:51 |
| zeth | yep, I have a hot line to him? | 19:51 |
| zeth | pinner: sorry I mean going into conservatoire | 19:51 |
| pinner | can't get into venue on Saturday | 19:51 |
| zeth | ok | 19:51 |
| zeth | [yep, I have a hot line to him - no question mark required] | 19:52 |
| zeth | pinner: ok | 19:52 |
| zeth | well tutorials are slower start | 19:52 |
| pinner | and on Sunday it's full of flautists, but I've booked the foyer seminar room we could use for stuff | 19:52 |
| zeth | do we have a crew room this year? | 19:52 |
| pinner | no, we need help for badges, preferably Friday, Saturday if necessary | 19:53 |
| zeth | That was so nice last year, having that dressing room place. | 19:53 |
| pinner | zeth: the green room | 19:53 |
| zeth | that is the same as PyconUK? | 19:53 |
| pinner | zeth: how many costume changes will you have? | 19:53 |
| zeth | lol | 19:53 |
| pinner | zeth: yes, next to Recital Hall | 19:53 |
| zeth | nice for organising and fixing diasters away from the eyes of the delegates | 19:53 |
| zeth | great | 19:54 |
| pinner | luke may come in his Debian tartan kilt | 19:54 |
| zeth | makes us look more professional that way | 19:54 |
| pinner | and need to change into Pyjamas at some time | 19:54 |
| zeth | I have an academic gown and mortar board if that helps. | 19:54 |
| nickbooker | so if the green room's not free he could change under your gown... | 19:54 |
| pinner | OK, so we have badge volunteers for Friday (keith) and Saturday (2 generations of Mooney), right? | 19:55 |
| zeth | I might be around then, not sure yet | 19:55 |
| pinner | Next - bag stuffing volunteers | 19:55 |
| pinner | all of these should go on wiki, CMooney can you do this please? | 19:56 |
| CMooney | these being what? | 19:56 |
| pinner | bag stuffing on Monday afternoon | 19:56 |
| CMooney | Mooney's volunteer for bag stuffing on Monday afternoon. | 19:56 |
| pinner | CMooney: ones who volunteer/get volunteered in this meeting | 19:56 |
| CMooney | k. | 19:56 |
| pinner | CMooney: with blank slots where we need volunteers, please, like | 19:57 |
| zeth | Me and my manager will be there probably, if we are not organising something else | 19:57 |
| pinner | We need a projector guardian or guardians | 19:57 |
| pinner | to make sure they're secure and locked away at night in a know place (Green Room) | 19:58 |
| CMooney | What about during the day? | 19:58 |
| pinner | We need a volunteer space on wiki. | 19:58 |
| CMooney | I could put them away at night, along with the audio equipment. | 19:58 |
| zeth | do we have those kesington lock things? | 19:58 |
| pinner | CMooney: yes, they should be locked down with kensingtons | 19:59 |
| zeth | we could lock the projectors to the desks if you are worried about that | 19:59 |
| pinner | CMooney: and put away over lunch | 19:59 |
| CMooney | pinner, I can do that. | 19:59 |
| pinner | CMooney: only if there are no other volunteers, you're doing plenty already | 20:00 |
| pinner | Volunteers need for registration | 20:00 |
| pinner | zeth: is Jutta OK for this again? | 20:00 |
| zeth | I reckon we get some crew volunteers on the day | 20:00 |
| zeth | pinner: yes the manager is coming on Sunday | 20:00 |
| zeth | she can be on the welcome desk with pinner's boss if you want | 20:01 |
| pinner | OK, we can sort that out locally it seems, no need for more here | 20:01 |
| pinner | OK, who's going to do the signage? | 20:01 |
| pinner | There was talk of Steve Hawkes and Richard Taylor | 20:01 |
| zeth | I still think we should somewhere have a slot in the schedule for a crew meeting, then people who want to volunteer can turn up then | 20:01 |
| pinner | looks like another job for Saturday | 20:02 |
| pinner | zeth: unless it's on Sunday or Monday, it's too late | 20:02 |
| fuzzyman | I'll be turning up at some point on Saturday | 20:02 |
| pinner | maybe at the same time as bag stuffing | 20:02 |
| fuzzyman | haven't booked a train yet | 20:02 |
| zeth | pinner: I think sunday | 20:02 |
| zeth | Ideally first thing, but the conference does start v early | 20:03 |
| pinner | zeth: seems good, maybe over a beer | 20:03 |
| pinner | zeth: will you put these things on the wiki, so anyone can join in if wanted | 20:03 |
| zeth | ok | 20:04 |
| pinner | Last thing on volunteers... | 20:04 |
| pinner | we need raffle tickets, raffle sales(wo)men, and a raffle accountant | 20:04 |
| pinner | for two raffles | 20:04 |
| pinner | 1. Stanis coins | 20:04 |
| pinner | (only in the dinner) | 20:05 |
| pinner | 2. Dell Studio laptop | 20:05 |
| ghum | pinner: was there not the idea to auction those coins? | 20:05 |
| pinner | (all conference, including dinner for sales, draw at end of conference | 20:05 |
| zeth | ghum: I thought it was raffle | 20:05 |
| pinner | ghum: lac and I thought a raffle might get more money | 20:06 |
| pinner | ghum: with 420 people at the dinner we should get more money | 20:06 |
| pinner | ghum: and auctioning 20 coins might take a long time and get very boring | 20:07 |
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| lac | I am not sure if an auction for stani's coins would not be more productive. depends on how much the raffle tickets are | 20:07 |
| ghum | hmmm... raffles money is more dependent on the saleswomans :) | 20:07 |
| zeth | what are the raffle tickets costing? | 20:07 |
| CMooney | pennies | 20:07 |
| CMooney | a pound for a book of a 1000 or something. | 20:07 |
| zeth | ghum: we sell them over dinner when people are drunk already ;) | 20:07 |
| zeth | CMooney: no I mean the cost to delegates | 20:07 |
| * pboddie sees an exploitable weakness in the ghum armour. ;-) | 20:08 | |
| CMooney | ah. Pound a strip?? | 20:08 |
| CMooney | I'd buy two or three strips. | 20:08 |
| zeth | fiver a strip | 20:08 |
| CMooney | good luck. | 20:08 |
| pinner | zeth: tbd, maybe £1.50 a ticket, 5 for £5 | 20:08 |
| zeth | even if everyone buys £5, it is only 2000 | 20:08 |
| ghum | what key is that funny symbok you are using? | 20:08 |
| CMooney | That'll be more of an incentive | 20:08 |
| pinner | we can decide that on the night | 20:08 |
| pinner | ghum: pound sterling | 20:09 |
| ghum | my belly is still more on that various auctioning thingis | 20:09 |
| pinner | OK, CMooney/zeth are putting stuff on wiki | 20:10 |
| zeth | 2000 is reasonable, but if only 50% take up rate that is only 1000 | 20:10 |
| ghum | drawing of 21 raffle winners is... rather hard to herd those 420 cats in a quite way | 20:10 |
| pinner | and we need to mail delegates to volunteer | 20:10 |
| zeth | but the cost to reward ratio is better than any raffle ever held | 20:10 |
| pinner | 100o for 2o euros worthy of coins - better than the hedge funds were! | 20:11 |
| zeth | well they are special ones right? | 20:11 |
| zeth | anyway, raflle will be fun | 20:11 |
| zeth | so lets do it | 20:11 |
| CMooney | How many to do we have to raffle? | 20:11 |
| pinner | OK, so someone needs to get raffle tickets, I'll do that, OK? | 20:11 |
| zeth | we can throw extra crap in it | 20:11 |
| pinner | and let's move on to | 20:12 |
| pinner | TOPIC Tech Team Stuff | 20:12 |
| pinner | qwright has things under some sort of last minute control | 20:12 |
| pinner | although wifi in the Library Theatre may be a problem on Sunday tutorial day | 20:13 |
| pinner | so I've put nick and me in there with the Python tutorial, 'cos we can do without wifi if need be | 20:13 |
| pinner | Keith White came over this afternoon and we looked at what's left of our power extensions | 20:14 |
| pinner | we need to buy more, which Keith will arrange | 20:14 |
| zeth | didn't they all go to lugradio live and not come back? | 20:14 |
| zeth | some wolves person has them all probably. | 20:14 |
| pinner | We will have some euro power strips | 20:14 |
| pinner | zeth: quite a few didn't come back | 20:14 |
| pinner | and we may set up some sort of laptop charging station in the cloak room | 20:15 |
| zeth | I guess they got mixed in with other person's stuff, and thast other person took them home. | 20:15 |
| zeth | with 400 people I think we really need to clamp down on the cloak room | 20:15 |
| pinner | zeth: thye simply didn't care enough to look after them | 20:15 |
| zeth | we can't be looking after 400 rucksacks | 20:15 |
| pinner | zeth: at their own risk | 20:16 |
| pinner | maybe we need some cloakroom tickets ;-) | 20:16 |
| zeth | if we are going to do that, then we must make sure all crew and conference stuff is in green room | 20:16 |
| zeth | away from the delegate's stuff | 20:16 |
| zeth | then we just leave it open completely | 20:16 |
| pinner | zeth: good batting, thinkman | 20:17 |
| nickbooker | zeth: good call. cloakroom was awkward to navigate even with PyconUK numbers... | 20:17 |
| zeth | The problem with having Jutta and shelia in front of it, is that is creates an unwarrented expectation of security | 20:17 |
| pinner | we can't discuss tech team much more without qwright | 20:17 |
| pinner | CMooney: are you happy with AV and audio recording? | 20:17 |
| zeth | if it was totally deserted, then it is at their own risk and looks like it | 20:18 |
| pinner | zeth: we could find a volunteer to man it, and keep it locked when unmanned | 20:18 |
| zeth | no | 20:18 |
| zeth | I don't think it is a good idea | 20:18 |
| zeth | unless we charge for storage | 20:18 |
| zeth | the problem is that it creates a liability | 20:19 |
| CMooney | Almost. Managed to source an altnative micro-recorder as the m-audio ones are out-of-stock at the closest shop. Also what type of wireless mic do you want, handheld wireless mic kits seem pretty easy to get ahold of. | 20:19 |
| pinner | zeth: if we charge that implies some sort of liability I think | 20:19 |
| CMooney | The tie-clip ones seem more expensive. | 20:19 |
| zeth | not a real one, but percieved one | 20:19 |
| zeth | well if we charge, then we have a pot of cash | 20:19 |
| CMooney | Will probably cost a total of ~£300 for a wireless mic, mixer and recorder. | 20:19 |
| zeth | and if something goes missing, we compensate £100 | 20:19 |
| zeth | we still would have big profit | 20:19 |
| pinner | CMooney: ideally, one tie-clip and one handheld per room | 20:19 |
| zeth | £2 per day to leave things in cloak room | 20:20 |
| zeth | on the last day, we will easy make a grnad | 20:20 |
| zeth | grand | 20:20 |
| pinner | CMooney: do it then | 20:20 |
| CMooney | That has been arranged with Jim, I was thinking of the one that you wanted to purchase for Europython. | 20:20 |
| pinner | CMooney: so was I | 20:20 |
| CMooney | Ah, so you want 6 of each.... | 20:20 |
| zeth | CMooney: I don't think we have to record every room, | 20:21 |
| zeth | The band room or whatever can be forgotton | 20:21 |
| CMooney | zeth, We don't have to, but we will. :) | 20:21 |
| pinner | CMooney: only one to try, this year | 20:21 |
| zeth | well depends how much, but the recording has grown a bit serious | 20:21 |
| CMooney | pinner, Ok, almost got the wrong end of the stick then. So a wireless tie-clip and handheld, mixer and recorder. | 20:21 |
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| CMooney | zeth, I have atleast one other person that seems enthusastic to help, that cuts the editing workload right down (half infact!). I don't see why we can't do it. | 20:22 |
| pinner | CMooney: yes, one set only. We try it out, say in the Band Room, and if successful we can extend it to other rooms | 20:22 |
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| CMooney | pinner, done. I'll order it tomorrow, and send revised costs to Jim. | 20:23 |
| pinner | and dispense with PA where it's not needed, adn save some dosh | 20:23 |
| pinner | CMooney: and we need PA for the after-dinner thing, we can use Jim or the hotel, we need to get costs | 20:23 |
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| CMooney | pinner Do we need a projector for the hotel? | 20:23 |
| pinner | moreati: hi! | 20:24 |
| moreati | evening all, sorry I'm late. Issues of a medical nature | 20:24 |
| pinner | CMooney: no, PA only | 20:24 |
| moreati | PRESENT | 20:24 |
| pinner | moreati: I made your apologies | 20:24 |
| pinner | Any more on Tech Team? | 20:25 |
| CMooney | pinner, K. | 20:25 |
| pinner | TOPIC Any Other Business | 20:25 |
| zeth | What are we doing for the intro? | 20:26 |
| zeth | you have your "don't touch the piano" speech? | 20:26 |
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| pinner | I will say a few words and hopefully hand over to Guido to say hello | 20:26 |
| zeth | cool | 20:26 |
| pinner | zeth: not this year, no pianos | 20:26 |
| zeth | do we have a CD player in that room to wshut | 20:26 |
| zeth | shut people up? | 20:26 |
| pinner | then we start the conference | 20:27 |
| pinner | I have one thing to raise | 20:27 |
| pinner | and that's staggering lunch | 20:27 |
| pinner | they want two servings | 20:27 |
| nickbooker | greedy lot. | 20:27 |
| zeth | staggering already at lunch, save drinking for social | 20:27 |
| zeth | pinner: can we put something on the badge? | 20:28 |
| zeth | like A and B | 20:28 |
| pinner | so we need to somehow split the delegates into 4, two lots in the refectory, and two lots downstairs | 20:28 |
| zeth | then we have A4 signs on the dinner tables, A 12:00 to 12:30 (or whatever) | 20:28 |
| moreati | a-n p-z? | 20:28 |
| CMooney | They will need to be told, just putting it on the badge will mean that they all go "Wonder what that's for" and our plans go down the drain. | 20:28 |
| moreati | by surname | 20:28 |
| pinner | zeth: could do, don't know what, and it's a little date to introduce new features! | 20:28 |
| pinner | s/date/late/ | 20:29 |
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| zeth | Could we get the register people to draw a colour on the back? | 20:29 |
| pinner | moreati: let's talk this out in the pub tomorrow (if your guts are OK) | 20:29 |
| moreati | pinner: sounds good, afraid I didin't survey the pub whilst staggering home. We'll have to take the chance. | 20:30 |
| pinner | BTW, I blogged the lunch menus on the EP blog | 20:30 |
| pinner | moreati: it's got real ale, it's by the canal, if the weather's fine what can be wrong? | 20:31 |
| moreati | Yes, somebody picked up on that and thought it's a great idea | 20:31 |
| moreati | pinner: the omens are good | 20:31 |
| matti | I am back. | 20:31 |
| matti | Sorry. | 20:31 |
| pinner | matti: for what? | 20:32 |
| matti | Being away. | 20:32 |
| pinner | not much action on the blog, yet | 20:32 |
| matti | For the talk about CD. | 20:32 |
| zeth | this is the DVD person --> matti | 20:33 |
| pinner | matti: let's finish the meeting, then talk about the CD, sorry DVD | 20:33 |
| matti | OK | 20:33 |
| pinner | Any more business? | 20:33 |
| zeth | nope | 20:33 |
| pinner | TOPIC Next Meeting | 20:34 |
| CMooney | Where is it tomorrow? I could probably show my face.... | 20:34 |
| zeth | Sunday 9.00am | 20:34 |
| zeth | Conservatoire! | 20:34 |
| pinner | Tuesday, 30th June, 9.00am BST, BCU Conservatoire | 20:34 |
| pinner | CMooney: as on Pywm list, Tap and Spile, 7.00pm ish | 20:35 |
| CMooney | Gotcha. | 20:35 |
| pinner | Otherwise, we'll be seeing each other over the weekend | 20:35 |
| CMooney | so Sunday or Tuesday? | 20:35 |
| pinner | lac: do know when you plane gets in? | 20:36 |
| pinner | CMooney, I think we're all seeing each other informally for bag stuffing time, if not before | 20:36 |
| CMooney | Ok. Well I'm really hungry, and need to cook dinner. So good night all, see you tomorrow if not the weekend, if not next week! | 20:37 |
| lac | we arrive fridayu night | 20:37 |
| pinner | CMooney: and we could even renew your acquaintance with Shiraz ;-) | 20:37 |
| CMooney | :) | 20:37 |
| CMooney | *wink* *wink* *nudge* *nudge* | 20:37 |
| pinner | lac: oh, that's new, in Brum? | 20:37 |
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| zeth | see some of you tomorrow | 20:38 |
| lac | we arrive 18.35 friday | 20:38 |
| zeth | see the rest of you at EuroPython! | 20:38 |
| * pinner waves to zeth | 20:38 | |
| pinner | lac: to stay at the Premier? | 20:39 |
| lac | yes to stay at the premier | 20:39 |
| nickbooker | see you zeth. btw zeth you coming to clocksoft this week? | 20:39 |
| pinner | lac: I can pick you up at the airport if you wish | 20:39 |
| lac | that would be wonderful | 20:40 |
| pinner | #endmeeting | 20:40 |
| pinner | forgot that | 20:40 |
| nickbooker | the minutes script thanks pinner :) | 20:40 |
| moreati | very offtopic, but the new freenode web gateway is quite nice, if a bit spartan | 20:40 |
| pinner | matti: you there? | 20:41 |
| pinner | matti: we have decided on a DVD if you have the content | 20:41 |
| pinner | matti: but we need the image by Thursday night if we are to have a chance of burning it on time | 20:42 |
| matti | No problem. | 20:42 |
| matti | I wonder, if there is anything I can add... | 20:42 |
| pinner | We will go with whatever talks we have | 20:42 |
| matti | OK | 20:43 |
| matti | I am sorry for that. | 20:43 |
| matti | I tried to chase up some of the speakers. | 20:43 |
| matti | But it is quite trouble some task. | 20:43 |
| pinner | do we keep slots where we haven't got slides, and maybe have the abstracts? | 20:43 |
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| matti | Slots? | 20:43 |
| pinner | matti: don't you chase speakers, I think lac is doing that | 20:44 |
| pinner | slots = blank spaces | 20:44 |
| pinner | in the menu | 20:44 |
| matti | pinner: I don't chase them per say. | 20:44 |
| matti | Menu? Sorry... | 20:44 |
| lac | I chase speakers, but not sure that any of them will submit slides. | 20:44 |
| pinner | matti: I thought you were having some html menu to browse | 20:45 |
| matti | I havent create any yet. | 20:45 |
| pinner | lac: ;-) we can only try | 20:45 |
| pinner | matti: whatever you think best | 20:45 |
| lac | is it possible to get a list of the speakers for whom there are no slides, or do I just ask everybody for them, with apologies to those as already submitted? | 20:46 |
| pinner | matti: you need to untar my talk, it has an index.html which is the slides | 20:46 |
| pinner | lac: ask them all with apologies, there are so few submitted I think | 20:46 |
| matti | pinner: OK | 20:47 |
| nickbooker | today's minutes are up in usual place, not much to them this time though. | 20:47 |
| pinner | matti: we have the blank DVDs ordered, and spare printer ribbons, so we can start burning Friday morning, no later | 20:47 |
| pinner | nickbooker:we may need to edit ACTIONS ;-) | 20:48 |
| matti | OK | 20:48 |
| matti | I will try to create this menu today. | 20:48 |
| pinner | matti: I don't think we need to say more, please contact me if you need to, either by email or phone if it's urgent, I'll mail you my number | 20:48 |
| matti | OK | 20:49 |
| * pinner needs to leave soon... | 20:50 | |
| matti | Thanks | 20:50 |
| matti | :) | 20:50 |
| lac | Ok, will do. is there a django way for 'give me a list of all the speakers' so I don't have to spend hours copy-pasting? | 20:52 |
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| zeth | lac yes | 20:59 |
| zeth | I can do all that kind of stuff easily | 21:00 |
| zeth | don't spend time cut and pasting | 21:00 |
| zeth | email me the format you want | 21:00 |
| zeth | I email back you the data | 21:00 |
| lac | I want a list of email addresses, one per line. | 21:00 |
| zeth | with commas? | 21:01 |
| zeth | or without? | 21:01 |
| lac | without | 21:01 |
| zeth | okay | 21:01 |
| lac | thank you. | 21:01 |
| zeth | in email | 21:03 |
| zeth | oh hang on | 21:04 |
| zeth | lac do you mind there might be some rejected speakers in there | 21:04 |
| pinner | lac: don't know, I'll send you one generated fro the pickle. | 21:04 |
| lac | yes, i mind. or rather I can fix that or you can. | 21:05 |
| lac | I want to mail each person on this list with a note saying | 21:05 |
| lac | 'Where are your slides??' | 21:05 |
| zeth | I can generate the list and only include accepted speakers | 21:05 |
| lac | so not to get the ones that aren't accepted. | 21:05 |
| lac | Great. that is what I need. | 21:05 |
| lac | pinner: ok, I have a new schedule now. What do you want me to send you? changes from the existing one? | 21:06 |
| zeth | lac: okay new list sent | 21:07 |
| lac | thank you zeth | 21:07 |
| zeth | this ia a list of primary speakers for each accepted talk | 21:07 |
| lac | that will be fine. | 21:08 |
| zeth | if there is more than one speaker for a talk, they are not included | 21:08 |
| pinner | lac: yes, I won't be able to look until nearly midnight though | 21:08 |
| zeth | I can make a second list of secondary speakers for accepted talks probably | 21:08 |
| zeth | need to think a little of the SQ: | 21:09 |
| zeth | SQL | 21:09 |
| pinner | zeth: I have sent lac a complete list | 21:09 |
| lac | primary should be ok. It is not as if I expect people to submit slides because I nag, this lot is in 'I will make them on the plane' mode, I fear | 21:09 |
| pinner | zeth: without the hindrance of SQl ;-) | 21:09 |
| zeth | well it is django python abstraction to SQL | 21:09 |
| lac | pinner -- did you sent me all speakers or all accepted speakers? | 21:09 |
| zeth | not quite so evil as pure SQL | 21:10 |
| pinner | lac: all speakers not marked with 'inhibit' in the speaker database | 21:10 |
| pinner | lac: which should == all accepted speakers if the db has been kept up-to-date | 21:11 |
| lac | since I have no clue what 'inhibit' means in this conext .... | 21:11 |
| lac | ah thank you then | 21:11 |
| * pinner waves goodnight | 21:11 | |
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| pinner | lac: inhibit = we don't want them on the bios 'cos they've dropped out, whatever | 21:11 |
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| lac | zeth -- an easy way to give me the same list without the people who are giving a tutorial but no talks? | 21:12 |
| zeth | yep | 21:12 |
| zeth | er hang on | 21:12 |
| zeth | people who are giving talks | 21:13 |
| zeth | not people who are only giving tutorials? | 21:13 |
| zeth | You confused me a little with your negatives | 21:13 |
| lac | yes. I don't want slides from tutorial people. | 21:13 |
| lac | I only want the people I am to nag about slides. | 21:13 |
| lac | or do I nag tutorial people for that as well?? | 21:14 |
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| zeth | ok | 21:17 |
| zeth | new email for only type talk | 21:17 |
| matti | Heh. | 21:17 |
| matti | XHTML and CSS makes me cry. | 21:17 |
| zeth | We got | 21:18 |
| zeth | talks = Talk.objects.filter(status = 'accepted') | 21:18 |
| zeth | for talk in talks: | 21:18 |
| zeth | if talk.klass.__unicode__() == u"Talk": | 21:18 |
| zeth | try: | 21:18 |
| zeth | print talk.speaker.email | 21:18 |
| zeth | except: | 21:18 |
| zeth | pass | 21:18 |
| zeth | which is the last email | 21:18 |
| zeth | You can't beat a for loop ;) | 21:19 |
| lac | :) | 21:22 |
| matti | Heh | 21:25 |
| matti | Hm. | 21:29 |
| TheSheep | ouch, catch-all except | 21:29 |
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| zeth | TheSheep: it is just what I typed into intrepeter | 21:33 |
| zeth | anyhow | 21:33 |
| zeth | night all | 21:33 |
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| lac | matti: are you there? | 22:04 |
| matti | Yes. | 22:05 |
| matti | ? | 22:13 |
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| matti | Heh. | 22:56 |
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