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| Martin_Hellwig | PRESENT | 19:00 |
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| pinner | Good Evening! | 19:00 |
| nickbooker | PRESENT | 19:01 |
| Martin_Hellwig | hey john! | 19:01 |
| tartley | PRESENT | 19:01 |
| nickbooker | evening all. | 19:01 |
| qwright | PRESENT | 19:01 |
| pinner | PRESENT | 19:01 |
| pinner | tartley: is fuzzyman back in the land of the living yet? | 19:02 |
| tartley | howdy doody everyone | 19:02 |
| jacob22 | PRESENT | 19:02 |
| pinner | Hello Jacob | 19:02 |
| jacob22 | Hi everyone. | 19:03 |
| tartley | pinner: I'm afraid not, he's at QCon conference right now. Dunno if he can make this meeting. | 19:03 |
| jacob22 | lac is napping. If you need her at a point in the agenda, I can wake her up. | 19:05 |
| pinner | jacob22: OK, did you both see the Sponsors Brochure? | 19:06 |
| nickbooker | APOLOGIES zeth | 19:06 |
| pinner | OK, I guess we'd better start... | 19:06 |
| pinner | #startmeeting | 19:06 |
| pinner | APOLOGIES moreati | 19:06 |
| pinner | APOLOGIES fuzzyman | 19:07 |
| pinner | APOLOGIES zeth | 19:07 |
| pinner | any more ? | 19:07 |
| pinner | TOPIC Review Actions from Last Meeting | 19:07 |
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| jacob22 | I've just been trough it. Looks very good. | 19:08 |
| jacob22 | I don't know if Laura has sen it yet. She was asleep when I arrived home. | 19:08 |
| pinner | jacob22: we try an give an air of professionalism, even if it isn't true ;-) | 19:08 |
| qwright | jacob22:thanks for your contributions | 19:09 |
| pinner | [registration] Has got off to a good start, with hardly any problems | 19:09 |
| jacob22 | qwright: You are most welcome. | 19:09 |
| pinner | [registration] 64 people had registered by 16:00 GMT today | 19:09 |
| jacob22 | pinner: Did you resolve how people should calculate what they should pay in Euros? | 19:10 |
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| qwright | [registration] that's 14 peo | 19:10 |
| qwright | le more than yesterday! | 19:10 |
| Martin_Hellwig | [registration] I have to say I am pretty impressed! | 19:11 |
| jacob22 | This points to a record number of attendees. | 19:11 |
| pinner | jacob22: You mean by bank transfer? I think they just ask the bank to pay sterling and the bank looks after it. | 19:11 |
| pinner | jacob22: although a Ukrainian's bank couldn't do this so we agreed an exchange rate. | 19:11 |
| pinner | [privacy policy] we had to remove Switzerland contrary to last meeting's decision because of our Data Protection registration | 19:12 |
| jacob22 | pinner: Apparently, there are EU payments, where the bank only supplies payment in Euro. | 19:12 |
| pinner | jacob22: we'll monitor what's coming in, then, and suggest an exchange rate that works | 19:13 |
| pinner | [sponsorship brochure] is now complete, you can see it at http://brumpy.net/ep2009/ | 19:14 |
| Martin_Hellwig | pinner: yes otherwise you need to do international foreign currency transfer, some banks charge a ridiculous prize for that, like 35 GBP some bank here in the UK, in NL theste transfers are usually free | 19:14 |
| pinner | [sponsorship brochure] We will have professionally printed brochures tomorrow and will send them out to the major sponsors | 19:15 |
| pinner | Martin_Hellwig: you will be our consultant on this | 19:15 |
| pinner | [talks] First sub-committee meeting took place on 28th February | 19:16 |
| Martin_Hellwig | pinner: OK, no problem | 19:16 |
| pinner | tartley: do you wish to report on the talks meeting? | 19:16 |
| tartley | hi | 19:16 |
| tartley | Sure thing | 19:17 |
| Martin_Hellwig | [sponsorship brochure] it looks really, really good, compliments! | 19:17 |
| pinner | [talks] we have 29 good submissions, although one has been withdrawn, and another couple should be amalgamated | 19:17 |
| tartley | Well, the talks subcommitee went through the first eighteen submissions | 19:17 |
| tartley | We pretty much decided across the board to accept each submission, some with caveats about desireable clarifications | 19:17 |
| tartley | or evidence of ability to fit within the assigned time slot | 19:18 |
| tartley | we assigned each talk a 'champion' from the subcommittee, to assist the submitter with jumping through | 19:18 |
| tartley | those hoops | 19:18 |
| tartley | (ie. helping people if English isn't native language, or helping people plan the talk duration accuratly) | 19:19 |
| pinner | I think it's fair to say that all the submissions looked good, with those provisos | 19:19 |
| tartley | I can't speak for the other champions, but I just started drafting my feedback to submitters last night | 19:20 |
| tartley | those are due to go out any hour now | 19:20 |
| tartley | all done | 19:20 |
| pinner | that all sounds good, any questions for tartley? | 19:20 |
| tartley | oh | 19:20 |
| tartley | To help me keep track | 19:21 |
| qwright | is the mix right? | 19:21 |
| tartley | I stuffed the talks into a google spreadsheet for my own benefit | 19:21 |
| tartley | I realise it's silly to diverge storage of info like this | 19:21 |
| tartley | maybe this info should be added to talks submissions directly? | 19:21 |
| tartley | http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=py4TiL9TBXvs-Q-yxcgOvIw | 19:21 |
| qwright | particularly if it's google... | 19:21 |
| tartley | yeah | 19:21 |
| tartley | i just shared it for your benefit | 19:22 |
| pinner | tartley: not until the submissions have been processed into separate talks and speaker bios | 19:22 |
| tartley | i'll unshare it after this meeting | 19:22 |
| qwright | I don't use google | 19:22 |
| voidspace_ | sorry | 19:22 |
| qwright | too dominant | 19:22 |
| voidspace_ | got here as soon as I could | 19:22 |
| tartley | unless others want specific invites to edit. | 19:22 |
| tartley | pinner & qwright: understood | 19:22 |
| pinner | voidspace_: we already gave fuzzyman's apologies ;-) | 19:22 |
| pinner | OK, talks looking good... | 19:23 |
| pinner | [pub guide] no progress I believe, zeth is away | 19:23 |
| voidspace_ | he is grateful | 19:23 |
| pinner | TOPIC Registration | 19:23 |
| pinner | We already covered this, fyi we have 64 delegates to date. | 19:24 |
| pinner | TOPIC Talks | 19:24 |
| pinner | I'm fouling up this agenda! | 19:24 |
| pinner | Progress report on Talks software: | 19:24 |
| pinner | Back end s/w is ready, the Django front end is still missing the bits between submissions and back end processing | 19:25 |
| qwright | who is doing these bits? | 19:26 |
| pinner | nickbooker and pinner and going to assist zeth with this | 19:26 |
| pinner | and->are | 19:26 |
| qwright | smile! | 19:26 |
| pinner | ACTION nickbooker and pinner to assist zeth with remianing Talks software | 19:27 |
| pinner | TOPIC Publicity | 19:27 |
| pinner | Martin_Hellwig: over to you | 19:27 |
| Martin_Hellwig | my apologies for the SNAFU on the last on (the dates) | 19:28 |
| Martin_Hellwig | in the future I will continue to post it out first before sending it out in the world | 19:28 |
| pinner | Martin_Hellwig: accepted :-) | 19:28 |
| Martin_Hellwig | next public announcement is when the agenda is ready | 19:28 |
| Martin_Hellwig | that's all for me I think | 19:29 |
| qwright | we are commissioning a poster | 19:29 |
| pinner | Shall we have another shot pointing out that EEB booking finishes on Saturday? | 19:29 |
| qwright | good idea | 19:29 |
| Martin_Hellwig | yes good idea, I will prepare a template tonight and send it around for sending out on Wednesday evening | 19:30 |
| pinner | We haven't had a vote yet... | 19:30 |
| Martin_Hellwig | +1 | 19:30 |
| qwright | +1 | 19:31 |
| pinner | VOTE Publicity mailshot about Extra Early Bird rate finishing on 14th | 19:31 |
| pinner | +1 | 19:31 |
| nickbooker | +1 | 19:31 |
| Martin_Hellwig | +1 | 19:31 |
| Martin_Hellwig | :-) | 19:31 |
| qwright | +1 | 19:31 |
| tartley | -1 | 19:31 |
| Martin_Hellwig | tartley: like to elaborate? | 19:32 |
| jacob22 | +1 | 19:32 |
| pinner | ENDVOTE | 19:32 |
| tartley | only that we seem to be doing well on numbers, and if one shoty has already mentiojned it, then why duplicate for people not alert enough to act on it? It's *E*EB, after all. | 19:32 |
| pinner | DECISION Send out another publicity mailshot about Extra Early Bird rate finishing on 14th | 19:33 |
| tartley | doubtless my inexperience talking. All good. | 19:33 |
| pinner | tartley: I see what you mean, OTOH the more publicity the better | 19:33 |
| tartley | cool | 19:34 |
| pinner | TOPIC Sponsorship | 19:34 |
| pinner | Who is going to contact whom? | 19:34 |
| qwright | prospects: Google, Canonical, Sun, | 19:34 |
| qwright | Apress, O'Reilly, Microsoft | 19:35 |
| qwright | PSF | 19:35 |
| pinner | I can deal with MS (also fuzzyman), Sun, Novell, Google if you like | 19:35 |
| Martin_Hellwig | and that mysterious rdbm manufacturer | 19:35 |
| qwright | Resolver | 19:35 |
| qwright | Oh yes Oracle | 19:35 |
| qwright | IBM | 19:35 |
| pinner | o'Reilly have already committed with their usual arrangement | 19:35 |
| pinner | I've sent the brochure to Oracle | 19:35 |
| qwright | Wingware, Nokia | 19:35 |
| qwright | ActiveState | 19:36 |
| tartley | I can contact Resolver, since I work there. Unless fuzzy is already all over it. | 19:36 |
| Martin_Hellwig | is BBC interested perhaps? | 19:36 |
| qwright | The Linux Emporium | 19:36 |
| qwright | BBC - yes possibly | 19:36 |
| pinner | I suggest that lac and jacob approach the PSF: they seem better than anyone else at getting cash from them | 19:36 |
| qwright | BBC - Michael Sparkes has been our BBC contact | 19:36 |
| qwright | Most of the above are previous PyConUK sponsors | 19:37 |
| qwright | also Nokia | 19:37 |
| pinner | I've just spoken to Michael Sparks, he's too busy to take part, but I have the contact for sponsorship | 19:37 |
| qwright | I'm out of the office, unfortunately I can't access Jacob's list easily | 19:38 |
| pinner | OK, we seem to have a reasonable list there. | 19:38 |
| qwright | others: Symbian, Novell, HP, RedHat, SUSE | 19:39 |
| pinner | I suggest that qwright coordinates this with jacob22 and they should produce a list assigning people to potential sponsors; this can be done by email outside this list | 19:39 |
| qwright | agreed, any other suggestions welcomed.... | 19:40 |
| voidspace_ | I can do anyone I am assigned so long as there are contact details | 19:40 |
| voidspace_ | an email template would be nice | 19:40 |
| qwright | voidspace: thanks | 19:40 |
| pinner | VOTE qwright and jacob22 to produce list of sponsors and divide among us | 19:41 |
| qwright | voidspace: the template isn't too difficult - mostly derived from the brochure copy | 19:41 |
| pinner | voidspace: the brochure can be seen at http://www.brumpy.net/ep2009/ | 19:42 |
| nickbooker | +1 | 19:42 |
| voidspace_ | +1 | 19:42 |
| tartley | +1 | 19:42 |
| Martin_Hellwig | +1 | 19:42 |
| jacob22 | +1 | 19:42 |
| pinner | +1 | 19:43 |
| pinner | ENDVOTE | 19:43 |
| qwright | +1 | 19:43 |
| voidspace_ | too slow there quentin | 19:43 |
| pinner | DECISION qwright and jacob22 to produce list of sponsors and divide among us | 19:43 |
| qwright | smile! | 19:43 |
| pinner | voidspace: can be put right with vim ;-) | 19:44 |
| pinner | TOPIC Budget | 19:44 |
| pinner | moreati has started a shared Google sp | 19:44 |
| pinner | readsheet, but not got very far | 19:44 |
| pinner | they're about to release some software which is why he's not here tonight | 19:45 |
| pinner | but I'm seeing him on Thursday | 19:45 |
| qwright | at the Bull or the Office? | 19:45 |
| pinner | But there is one budget item we do need to discuss | 19:45 |
| qwright | ....... | 19:46 |
| pinner | qwright: Bull | 19:46 |
| qwright | pinner: and the budget item is? | 19:46 |
| pinner | We are being asked to sponsor students, also speakers' expenses from say the USA | 19:46 |
| voidspace_ | right | 19:46 |
| voidspace_ | we have several folk who have informally (non-formally?) requested assistance | 19:47 |
| pinner | jacob22: what did you budget for these in the past? | 19:47 |
| pinner | I think we should be thinking in terms of £5000, but that is a big hole in the finances | 19:48 |
| pinner | so I suggest that is what we should ask for from the PSF, and if we get less we sponsor less | 19:48 |
| jacob22 | pinner: We actually had a fair bit of budget. I'd say between 3000 and 6000 Euro. We have had quite a few people from Brazil and Argentina. | 19:49 |
| pinner | and if a sugar daddy comes forward (Oracle?) we can allocate more | 19:49 |
| pinner | jacob22: that ties in with what I was thinking | 19:49 |
| pinner | at PyCon UK Hettinger and Beazley accounted for (probably) around $3000, but were worth it | 19:50 |
| jacob22 | It's nice to have as a bit of a budget regulator. People who ask for sponsorships are understanding when you tell them that you need to see how much you can afford. | 19:50 |
| pinner | VOTE Allocate provisional sum of £5000 for speaker and delegate sponsorship | 19:51 |
| jacob22 | +1 | 19:51 |
| nickbooker | +1 | 19:52 |
| qwright | +1 | 19:52 |
| Martin_Hellwig | +0 | 19:52 |
| tartley | +1 | 19:52 |
| voidspace_ | +1 | 19:52 |
| pinner | ENDVOTE | 19:52 |
| pinner | DECISION Provisional sum of £5000 for speaker and delegate sponsorship allocated | 19:53 |
| pinner | TOPIC Website and Wiki | 19:53 |
| pinner | I'm concerned that we don't (apparently) have anyone monitoring and guiding wiki content | 19:54 |
| pinner | this is a function pboddie has done in the past, but he's taking a back seat this year | 19:54 |
| pinner | do we ask him to do it again, or get someone new? | 19:55 |
| pinner | or just leave it? | 19:55 |
| voidspace_ | is it an actual problem or a potential problem? | 19:56 |
| voidspace_ | do we need more wiki content? | 19:56 |
| tartley | if we were to get someone new, it would require asking if anyone was interested in doing it? Is anyone interested in doing it? This is not a volunteering. :-) | 19:57 |
| pinner | voidspace_ : you get information duplicated, and as soon as that happens one source by definition becomes incorrect | 19:57 |
| qwright | I think it's more a matter of watching out for spam and obvious mistakes | 19:57 |
| pinner | qwright: it also gets randomly disorganised | 19:57 |
| voidspace_ | So we need a webmaster | 19:58 |
| voidspace_ | isn't zeth good at these things? | 19:58 |
| voidspace_ | :-) | 19:58 |
| pinner | voidspace_ : he's very good at setting it up, and has a short attention span once that is done, like me | 19:59 |
| pinner | let's leave this for now - there are not enough people here anyway - and just keep an eye on it for now | 20:00 |
| pinner | TOPIC Any Other Business | 20:00 |
| pinner | any offers? | 20:00 |
| tartley | Q: | 20:01 |
| tartley | Q: can I pester you about getting my VoIP working? offline. | 20:01 |
| qwright | tartley: Yes? | 20:01 |
| tartley | I was told you are the man. | 20:01 |
| qwright | tartley: Yes | 20:01 |
| pinner | TOPIC Next Meeting | 20:02 |
| pinner | Monday 24th April, 17:00 GMT, 18:00 CET OK for everyone? | 20:02 |
| voidspace_ | Get Voip working offline - seems destined to fail | 20:02 |
| tartley | :-) | 20:02 |
| Martin_Hellwig | maybe if you could route it over gprs | 20:03 |
| qwright | tartley: can you hang around here afterwards or do you want to give things a go another time? | 20:03 |
| tartley | I will be in Wales, but can take a laptop and look for wifi. | 20:03 |
| tartley | qwright: Ah, am at work at the moment, I'll send you an email, just in case you think of something I haven't tried. Thanks! | 20:03 |
| voidspace_ | I'll be on the way to PyCon US | 20:03 |
| pinner | DECISION Next Meeting will be on Monday 24th April, 17:00 GMT, 18:00 CET | 20:03 |
| qwright | tartley: 3g is an alternative in Wales | 20:04 |
| jacob22 | pinner: 6 weeks form now? | 20:04 |
| voidspace_ | Hmmm... I might be free | 20:04 |
| pinner | voidspace_: there may be some things you can do for us while you're in the colonies ;-) | 20:04 |
| pinner | Correction! | 20:04 |
| voidspace_ | pinner: if you have any specific requests then fine | 20:04 |
| qwright | pinner: Did you mean March? | 20:04 |
| voidspace_ | I assumed 24th March! | 20:05 |
| pinner | DECISION Next Meeting will be on Monday 24th March, 17:00 GMT, 18:00 CET | 20:05 |
| qwright | pinner: Sounds good to me... | 20:05 |
| pinner | jacob22: just testing to see if you were awake ;-) | 20:05 |
| jacob22 | Why are we changing day of the week? Any particular reason? | 20:05 |
| qwright | voidspace_: being in the US is not an excuse for non-attendance | 20:06 |
| pinner | jacob22: is a Tuesday again, I think | 20:06 |
| voidspace_ | ha | 20:06 |
| voidspace_ | 24th is a Tuesday | 20:06 |
| tartley | tue is day before pycon, presumably ppl R on planes | 20:06 |
| tartley | I am | 20:06 |
| voidspace_ | being on a plane might be a good excuse | 20:06 |
| jacob22 | So Tuesday 24 March 17:00 GMT, 18:00 CET | 20:06 |
| qwright | voidspace_: 1700 UTC will be 1100 local | 20:07 |
| tartley | I cannot do that date. Flying to PyCon. | 20:07 |
| pinner | voidspace_: The obvious thing is to publicise EP, and get speakers, Iwill contact you re PyCon if I think of anything else. | 20:07 |
| voidspace_ | I think I'll be on a plane | 20:07 |
| voidspace_ | pinner: ok | 20:07 |
| pinner | I think that's all | 20:07 |
| qwright | tartley, voidspace_: change your flights? | 20:07 |
| pinner | Thanks for coming | 20:08 |
| tartley | hoho | 20:08 |
| pinner | #endmeeting | 20:08 |
| qwright | Byeeeeeeeeeeeee | 20:08 |
| voidspace_ | weeeeeeeeeeeeeee | 20:08 |
| voidspace_ | are we there yet? | 20:08 |
| tartley | cheapy flights, I'm afraid, will incur change fees | 20:08 |
| voidspace_ | qwright: I'll happily leave a day or two early if you pay the flight and hotel :-) | 20:08 |
| tartley | and surfboard rental | 20:09 |
| qwright | tartley: you may need skis | 20:09 |
| qwright | tartley: do you want to chat about voip? | 20:10 |
| tartley | thanks Q, not right now, I'm not at home (where the problem is) | 20:10 |
| voidspace_ | don't you have to go offline to do that Tart? | 20:10 |
| tartley | I'll send you an email when I get there. LALALA I can't hear fuzzy. | 20:10 |
| tartley | brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | 20:11 |
| qwright | tartley: so when are you likely to be at home+ | 20:11 |
| qwright | ? | 20:11 |
| Martin_Hellwig | if only there was an invention when you can call somebody when you are not at home or have an laptop | 20:12 |
| qwright | mobile phone? | 20:12 |
| Martin_Hellwig | :-) | 20:12 |
| tartley | on reflection, not until late. HAR. I want to be sat next to the defective hardware so I can report symptoms and try out any suggestions, silly people. | 20:13 |
| Martin_Hellwig | hehe | 20:13 |
| qwright | it's 53F in Chicago today - toasty, but forecast to be 34F tomorrow | 20:13 |
| tartley | Q: I'll ping you thursday, respond at your leisure. Mucho thanks | 20:13 |
| Martin_Hellwig | q: is the voip conferece reachable from a normal number? | 20:14 |
| qwright | tartley: fine - not sure how you ping me will be at clockwork 0121 313 3850 | 20:14 |
| qwright | Martin_Hellwig: yes, I can't remember what it is at the moment | 20:15 |
| Martin_Hellwig | no worries | 20:15 |
| qwright | Martin_Hellwig: have you no voip capability at all? | 20:15 |
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| Martin_Hellwig | I have a very lousy connection | 20:16 |
| qwright | Martin_Hellwig: is that broadband+ | 20:16 |
| qwright | ? | 20:16 |
| Martin_Hellwig | yup btinternet, problems is the streetpole | 20:17 |
| tartley | bye all. | 20:17 |
| qwright | byeeeeeee1 | 20:17 |
| Martin_Hellwig | bye tartley | 20:17 |
| qwright | can't they fix it | 20:17 |
| * tartley waves while slowly melting into a puddle that slips through the flagstones... | 20:17 | |
| tartley | quit | 20:18 |
| tartley | damn! | 20:18 |
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| Martin_Hellwig | yes the are going to, scheduled at November | 20:18 |
| qwright | !! my pole has been struck by lightning twice, but each time they were round inside 24 hours | 20:18 |
| ThomasWaldmann | re :) | 20:19 |
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| Martin_Hellwig | well, it seems that the problems is in line that burried under a house | 20:19 |
| Martin_Hellwig | which leads to the pole | 20:19 |
| ThomasWaldmann | btw, is there some great computer shop in birmingham that has a good choice of small laptops? | 20:20 |
| qwright | hmmm - not worth switching to Virgin (ex NTL)? | 20:20 |
| ThomasWaldmann | my current one is falling apart and I want a US (or similar) kbd anyway | 20:21 |
| Martin_Hellwig | I conciderd it, but I probably will be moving soon | 20:21 |
| qwright | ThomasWaldmann: you'll have difficulties getting a US keyboard.... | 20:21 |
| qwright | Martin_Hellwig: yes it won't be transferabe | 20:22 |
| pinner | qwright: we have the technology to get one ;-) | 20:22 |
| Martin_Hellwig | tipex? | 20:22 |
| qwright | well I recommend spraying all the keys black or else using a dvorak layout, or both | 20:23 |
| pinner | Martin_Hellwig: no, genuine US kb | 20:23 |
| Martin_Hellwig | ah :-) | 20:23 |
| voidspace_ | qwright: dvorak - the man was a con artist! | 20:24 |
| Martin_Hellwig | you mean the reporter? | 20:25 |
| qwright | that's just an evil rumour | 20:25 |
| voidspace_ | the keyboard man | 20:25 |
| qwright | no the reporter is a different person | 20:25 |
| Martin_Hellwig | he too? :-) | 20:25 |
| voidspace_ | yeah - him too | 20:26 |
| qwright | dvorak is loads easier to type with than qwerty - no finger stretching | 20:27 |
| qwright | I was getting rsi, but all symptoms have gone away since I switched | 20:27 |
| Martin_Hellwig | yes but typing takes ages now ;-) | 20:28 |
| voidspace_ | qwright: that's because it's slower | 20:28 |
| voidspace_ | I use a kinesis keyboard | 20:28 |
| qwright | nope, after a year or two it's faster | 20:28 |
| voidspace_ | similar - no stretching | 20:28 |
| voidspace_ | can reach every key without moving your hand | 20:28 |
| voidspace_ | it also supports Dvorak | 20:28 |
| voidspace_ | expensive, but I'm a big fan | 20:28 |
| qwright | I've gone down the happy hacker pathway, also Thinkpad keyboards are very good | 20:30 |
| qwright | All has gone quiet??!! | 20:32 |
| qwright | I'm going to have to stop now ...... | 20:33 |
| Martin_Hellwig | keeping my son happy, typing with one hand | 20:33 |
| voidspace_ | ... | 20:33 |
| Martin_Hellwig | okay that doesn't sound right | 20:33 |
| qwright | That's right - start them young!!! | 20:33 |
| Martin_Hellwig | actually, just feeding him another bottle | 20:34 |
| qwright | well keyboard skills will have to wait a little while I suppose | 20:35 |
| Martin_Hellwig | 8 weeks might be a bit young :-) | 20:35 |
| Martin_Hellwig | f,llglptlvhf | 20:36 |
| qwright | with my children I had programs that would respond to a single key - any key - and do something - like beep or flash the screen.... | 20:36 |
| Martin_Hellwig | well that was my sons writing | 20:36 |
| Martin_Hellwig | hmm that might be good idea | 20:37 |
| Martin_Hellwig | well I am leaving now, nappy change, I spare you the details | 20:38 |
| Martin_Hellwig | bye | 20:39 |
| qwright | Ah the joys of fatherhood!!! | 20:39 |
| qwright | OK bye! me too, bye voidspace_ | 20:39 |
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| voidspace_ | bye | 20:40 |
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| MatthewWilkes | Ah, shame, I almost hoped there's be a few hundred brummies in here | 22:20 |
| MatthewWilkes | "Python's bostin'" etc | 22:20 |
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