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| pboddie | I guess we're waiting for Laura, who made an agenda, I believe. | 20:06 |
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| pboddie | There was a provisional agenda based on the proceedings of the last meeting: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2008/IRCMeetings/IRCMeeting4 | 20:09 |
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| david_boddie | Hello! | 20:11 |
| david_boddie | pboddie: Have you mentioned the agenda? http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2008/IRCMeetings/IRCMeeting4 | 20:14 |
| pboddie | Y | 20:14 |
| pboddie | The registration and budget stuff, which is first on the agenda, needs Laura, John or Aiste to report on, and I guess John and Laura (at least) have already discussed this privately. | 20:16 |
| pboddie | If anything, I suppose that in the absence of Laura and John it'd be best to consider the matter of announcing talk submissions and how we're going to deal with the submissions when they come in. | 20:18 |
| david_boddie | Shall we try to reuse the announcement from last year, perhaps with some changes to the themes we're suggesting? | 20:20 |
| pboddie | I think I'd start off with that, yes. | 20:20 |
| pboddie | Anyone out there with any further ideas on themes? MAL added some ideas to the europython.org site. | 20:20 |
| pboddie | For those interested: http://www.europython.org/community/Talk_Suggestions | 20:21 |
| Theuni | i just read that idea list and think its pretty good to get people started | 20:24 |
| david_boddie | And the talk workflow system? Is that something that John and friends are working on? | 20:24 |
| Theuni | pboddie: maybe the distributed computing entry could mention multi-core systems as another focus? | 20:25 |
| Theuni | from the technology perspective it's pretty similar but has different use cases | 20:25 |
| pboddie | I can add that - or you could. ;-) | 20:25 |
| Theuni | i can. just wanted to check whether you're good with it. | 20:25 |
| pboddie | I think it does need fleshing out, though. Load-balancing is different from grid computing, really. | 20:25 |
| pboddie | Yes, go for it! Make lots of edits! :-) | 20:25 |
| Theuni | right, the themes might be arranged in a bit more coherent structure. | 20:26 |
| pboddie | As long as no-one adds lots of links to hotels and tourism in various parts of China. ;-) | 20:26 |
| david_boddie | I guess the distributed entry overlaps with a Science theme (which seems to be missing). | 20:26 |
| pboddie | No-one asked for science yet. | 20:27 |
| david_boddie | pboddie: Do we have the numbers for last year's talks split by theme? | 20:27 |
| pboddie | david_boddie: Good question! | 20:27 |
| Theuni | pboddie: wie can still add it as a suggestion | 20:27 |
| pboddie | Absolutely! The science stuff can be pretty novel compared to other things. | 20:28 |
| Theuni | also i was thinking about integration issues, e.g. integrating python applications with other systems. | 20:28 |
| * Theuni adds | 20:28 | |
| Theuni | the `python inside` theme could be `integration` with the sub-topics `stuff things into python` and `stuff python into things` | 20:29 |
| david_boddie | "Python Inside" and "Inside Python". :-) | 20:30 |
| pboddie | I think it'd fit in well with the business aspects. Obviously the themes are just guidelines, but are also attempts to coerce people into submitting talks. | 20:30 |
| Theuni | right | 20:30 |
| pboddie | As far as I'm aware, anyway. | 20:30 |
| Theuni | thats what the text says ;) | 20:30 |
| pboddie | There was interest in business conference spin-offs and so on, but no-one has really come forward with anything concrete. I see that MAL added stuff about case studies, and I'd guess that many involve integration in some way. | 20:32 |
| david_boddie | pboddie: Slightly related to that: is it too early to talk about keynotes? | 20:32 |
| Theuni | i think MAL tried creating a business spin-off in germany last year, but i wasn't there. | 20:32 |
| pboddie | david_boddie: I think we were just open to suggestions on keynotes. The themes could bring up ideas for speakers, I guess. | 20:33 |
| david_boddie | pboddie: And potentially the choice of sponsors. | 20:33 |
| Theuni | pboddie: right. the themes don't seem to be (nor need to be) orthogonal | 20:33 |
| pboddie | Theuni: I spoke to MAL and his associate at EP last year, and they were holding back on the idea. | 20:33 |
| pboddie | Theuni: As long as we avoid the tag cloud. ;-) | 20:34 |
| Theuni | heh | 20:34 |
| pboddie | Anyway, anyone reading this (either now or in the log) should be encouraged to add and change the suggested themes. We should have something concrete ready by Friday. | 20:37 |
| Theuni | I'm currently looking at them and trying to figure out a better structure, I can't promise to do anything during the week though. | 20:38 |
| pboddie | Meanwhile, I think we need to sort out how the talks will be handled. | 20:38 |
| pboddie | Previously, I think we've used Web-based systems for submitting talks. | 20:38 |
| pboddie | pedronis: Laura appointed you as programme chair. Any opinions on this? | 20:40 |
| pedronis | this next week we are going to have a so called design sprint at OE, work is aborbing my energies, I was discussing this with lac today | 20:41 |
| pedronis | I'm not going to be able to help with CFP | 20:42 |
| pboddie | I think we can prepare a text which tells people what they need to know. | 20:42 |
| pboddie | I guess we can be slightly vague about proposing talks by sending people to the site and having a prominent link there to the right page. | 20:43 |
| Theuni | Is the old programme reachable somewhere? | 20:44 |
| pboddie | Last year's themes and talks? | 20:45 |
| pboddie | http://www.europython.org/community/Talks_and_Themes | 20:46 |
| pboddie | http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceTimeTable.py?confId=13919&detailLevel=contribution&viewMode=room | 20:46 |
| Theuni | this is interesting, pycon ended up with a gazillion topics: | 20:46 |
| Theuni | http://us.pycon.org/2008/conference/talks/ | 20:46 |
| Theuni | thanks | 20:46 |
| pboddie | Yes, that's the tag cloud problem. | 20:47 |
| Theuni | anyway, i've gotta do something else for a while. i'll check back later. | 20:49 |
| pedronis | last year we still had track sort of topics although we didn't have track chairs | 20:49 |
| pboddie | Theuni: No problem. Thanks for checking in! | 20:50 |
| pedronis | this made constructing session of talks a bit easier, if it's completely unstructured it is harder to combine things | 20:50 |
| pboddie | What do you think we need to do to get people involved? | 20:50 |
| pboddie | And do you think we need to be closer to tracks than the tag cloud? | 20:51 |
| Theuni | tag cloud is bad from a psychological view | 20:51 |
| Theuni | i think having about 7 different categories "topics, tracks, ..." is good | 20:52 |
| Theuni | having 2-3 more specific and the others more general allows people to find "their" spot | 20:52 |
| Theuni | hard issue is not to be too broad | 20:52 |
| Theuni | i like most of the topics from last year | 20:52 |
| pedronis | pboddie: yes, my personal opinion is that better tracks than tag cloud | 20:52 |
| Theuni | some seem a bit weird | 20:52 |
| pedronis | we usually had very generic containers like: lang + libs | 20:53 |
| pedronis | and then some more specific ones | 20:53 |
| pboddie | Generally, more formality makes it easier for the audience to find their spot. Otherwise, it's a lottery. | 20:53 |
| pedronis | Theuni: the weird one are usually because there were people | 20:53 |
| pedronis | interested and activively asking for talks | 20:53 |
| pedronis | so far we always had an agile testing track for example | 20:54 |
| pedronis | but the involved people seems very busy this year | 20:54 |
| pboddie | Looking at the schedule from last year, I seem to remember having trouble assigning these talks to tracks (which Indico likes to use). | 20:54 |
| Theuni | right | 20:54 |
| Theuni | i was already trying to find some place to put agile testing into | 20:55 |
| pboddie | So you end up with "Snakes on a Phone" in the language and libraries track. | 20:55 |
| Theuni | it seems a bit too specific as a topic to me | 20:55 |
| Theuni | pboddie: for me that woud be 'integration' | 20:55 |
| pboddie | And there were also "collisions" between language and libraries talks. | 20:55 |
| Theuni | meaning? | 20:55 |
| * Theuni detects he isn't really gone | 20:55 | |
| pedronis | a clash free schedule is hard to achieve | 20:56 |
| pboddie | Well, I think Indico probably only gives that impression, but there were a load of database talks in L&L which happen at the same time as EasyExtend and following talks. | 20:56 |
| pboddie | pedronis: Indeed. I think it's easier to schedule if the themes are clear cut. | 20:56 |
| pedronis | well we decided to live with the overlap between bread-and-butter stuff and | 20:57 |
| Theuni | ah | 20:57 |
| pedronis | esoteric stuff | 20:57 |
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| Theuni | i think this kind of clash is acceptable | 20:57 |
| pedronis | is hard to make it so that people can go to both | 20:58 |
| Theuni | the earlier | 20:58 |
| pedronis | also a pure esoteric lang track doesn't work, we tried that | 20:58 |
| pedronis | you don't get enough talk | 20:58 |
| pedronis | s | 20:58 |
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| pedronis | and is too thin and for a niche audience | 20:59 |
| Theuni | i'd sayt the problem is too hard to solve correctly in the general case, so lets just do our best manually. ;) | 20:59 |
| pedronis | that's what we did last year | 20:59 |
| Theuni | and you're still alive! | 20:59 |
| pedronis | but I agree that a complete tag cloud of topics would make the task harder | 20:59 |
| pboddie | I added a Python implementations theme to the list, because there's a lot of people involved with that kind of thing, and I'd say the interest is actually high if the detail isn't really heavy. But it'd need to be more than PyPy involved, I think. | 20:59 |
| pboddie | pedronis: Agreed. | 20:59 |
| pboddie | I remember in Gothenburg in 2005 that everyone kept asking Michael Salib about Starkiller, even though he wasn't presenting it there. | 21:00 |
| Theuni | pboddie: I thought it would be ok to put that in the general language track. maybe we can give some advise to the people giving talks on what to expect of their audiences | 21:00 |
| Theuni | because i guess people are interested in those things (i am). | 21:01 |
| pedronis | we should consider that py3.0 is in the air | 21:01 |
| Theuni | except that `esoteric` stuff maybe means that speakers are giving the audience a hard time | 21:01 |
| pedronis | OTOH my experience is that people are not so interested in giving lang talks | 21:01 |
| pedronis | except Guido and his keynote | 21:01 |
| david_boddie | Are we thinking of having tutorials this year, or is that more of a PyCon thing? | 21:02 |
| pedronis | that's something to discuss when lac is around | 21:03 |
| pboddie | david_boddie: Only if there's supply and demand. | 21:03 |
| pedronis | and that too | 21:03 |
| pboddie | pedronis: Where is lac today? Do you know? | 21:03 |
| pedronis | she didn't tell me she wouldn't be present | 21:03 |
| pedronis | the last time I heard from here she was going to do invetary at her wine company | 21:04 |
| Theuni | we could argue whether we get the best `few clashes` result if we randomly mix all talks ... | 21:04 |
| pedronis | from her | 21:04 |
| pedronis | no clue how long that takes | 21:04 |
| pedronis | that was around 16:00 | 21:05 |
| pboddie | I guess we'll catch up with her in the week. | 21:05 |
| pboddie | Really, I thought the biggest problem last year was getting enough talks in the first place. | 21:05 |
| pedronis | well not having track chair made getting talks harder | 21:06 |
| pedronis | you really need to contact people and spam mailing lists | 21:06 |
| pedronis | to get talks | 21:06 |
| pedronis | well "spam" | 21:07 |
| david_boddie | We should push people harder to blog about that, as well as "spamming" lists. :-) | 21:07 |
| Theuni | everybody who wants to be a talk chair can choose the topic and get 6 slots and pester people ;) | 21:07 |
| pboddie | We had a page about spamming last year: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/PublicRelations | 21:08 |
| pboddie | I can add this to the planning part of the new site. I've also added a draft CFP: | 21:08 |
| pboddie | http://www.europython.org/community/Planning/CallForProposalsDraft | 21:08 |
| pboddie | Theuni: Democracy with responsibility. | 21:09 |
| pboddie | Still, I think we've got stuff to work with on the themes. Maybe some of them are more focused on who we might want to pester to give a keynote. | 21:11 |
| pboddie | For example, OLPC and OpenMoko could feature in talks, but they're just a small part of any particular theme. | 21:11 |
| david_boddie | pboddie: It might be good to add something about recording talks in the "Other ways to participate" section of the draft. | 21:12 |
| pboddie | david_boddie: Yes. I think EP is behind on this. Although I can imagine doing my own video recording this year with a big enough memory card. ;-) | 21:13 |
| david_boddie | pboddie: But we'll have to grab Christian (MrTopf) and talk to him about that. | 21:13 |
| pboddie | david_boddie: Grab him during the week. | 21:14 |
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| david_boddie | As if by magic... | 21:16 |
| david_boddie | MrTopf: We were just talking about you... | 21:16 |
| MrTopf | Hi :) | 21:16 |
| MrTopf | and I was thinking about you the other day ;-) | 21:16 |
| david_boddie | ;-) | 21:17 |
| MrTopf | just back from FOSDEM | 21:17 |
| MrTopf | unfortunately no Python there :-/ | 21:17 |
| david_boddie | We think it might be good to add a Recording Talks link to the "Other ways to particpate" section of http://www.europython.org/community/Planning/CallForProposalsDraft | 21:17 |
| david_boddie | pboddie: Maybe we should call it a "Call For Participation". | 21:18 |
| pboddie | Interesting idea. | 21:18 |
| MrTopf | you might start with "live-blogging" | 21:19 |
| MrTopf | because this is the easiest way to do that | 21:19 |
| MrTopf | then of course video can also be mentioned | 21:19 |
| david_boddie | MrTopf: I think audio should also be easy, but we need volunteers. | 21:19 |
| MrTopf | btw, I was thinking that a blog for EuroPython might also be a good idea. That way people can subscribe to it (even via email) and they get news more automatically | 21:20 |
| pboddie | Like the PyCon blog? | 21:20 |
| MrTopf | haven't looked at that actually as I never was planning to go to PyCon ;-) | 21:20 |
| MrTopf | but this would be more permission marketing like.. even if people sign up to it 4 months after a EP they will be informed then | 21:21 |
| david_boddie | pboddie: Can MoinMoin do blogging, or are we looking at using something else? | 21:21 |
| MrTopf | hopefully it at least can import RSS feeds | 21:22 |
| MrTopf | then you can use Wordpress for blogging, easiest to setup | 21:22 |
| pboddie | I'm sure there's a macro which will do the job. Then we just need to elbow zeth to help us install it. ;-) | 21:22 |
| MrTopf | and you can use wordpress.com | 21:22 |
| MrTopf | signup should be 10 mins | 21:22 |
| MrTopf | or 5 ;-) | 21:23 |
| david_boddie | We can use both. :-) | 21:23 |
| MrTopf | you mean use 2 blogs? | 21:23 |
| david_boddie | Hmm. | 21:23 |
| david_boddie | Isn't the PyCon blog basically just an aggregation of other blogs? | 21:23 |
| MrTopf | that would be good to have, too | 21:24 |
| MrTopf | you can use a search on technorati.com for "EuroPython" and use the RSS feed of this again and display it, too | 21:24 |
| pboddie | It's another aggregated blog that gets aggregated by Planet Python. Trying not to write aggravated here. ;-) | 21:24 |
| david_boddie | MrTopf: Is that what you meant? After all, lots of people already have a blog. It's just a matter of picking up the relevant articles. | 21:25 |
| MrTopf | yes, but you might want some for updates, like logo competition, registration start etc. | 21:25 |
| pboddie | After being too timid to interview people last year, I can imagine shoving a microphone or camera in someone's face this time around and then uploading it. | 21:25 |
| MrTopf | or even announcing a new EP | 21:25 |
| david_boddie | MrTopf: An official blog. | 21:25 |
| MrTopf | yep | 21:25 |
| MrTopf | like make it europython.wordpress.com and put it onto europython.org via RSS | 21:26 |
| MrTopf | wordpress.com also has the advantage that it might show up in their blog listings here and then | 21:26 |
| MrTopf | and you don't have to deal with installation and so far WP is a quite good blogging platform | 21:26 |
| MrTopf | (although it's PHP but I wouldn't try to force it to be Python here. Use the tools which work well) | 21:27 |
| pboddie | What about stuff like blogger or the Google-based stuff? | 21:27 |
| MrTopf | blogger IMHO is not too great | 21:27 |
| MrTopf | and with WP you also have the option to host it yourself later | 21:27 |
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| MrTopf | you should also use Feedburner because then you have nice statistics and you can easily enable an email newsletter | 21:28 |
| MrTopf | there is a free module for it | 21:28 |
| david_boddie | MrTopf: The option to re-host it sounds reassuring. | 21:29 |
| MrTopf | but it's PHP ;-) | 21:29 |
| pboddie | I think that this kind of stuff was where we'd hoped that there'd be passionate volunteers, but I guess people weren't so passionate. | 21:29 |
| MrTopf | well, I can set this up for you | 21:29 |
| MrTopf | but you would have to maybe post news there then :) | 21:30 |
| MrTopf | let me quickly set it up | 21:30 |
| MrTopf | I just don't know about the RSS import for MoinMoin.. if it's not working you might use an iframe or so | 21:30 |
| MrTopf | feedburner can also republish a feed as HTML | 21:31 |
| pboddie | We could write a macro ourselves if there isn't one already. | 21:31 |
| MrTopf | there should be | 21:32 |
| MrTopf | RSS is not that unkown ;-) | 21:32 |
| david_boddie | Shouldn't we run this plan past some of the others first? | 21:32 |
| pboddie | http://moinmo.in/MacroMarket/RSSReader to aggregate | 21:33 |
| pboddie | http://moinmo.in/MacroMarket/IRSS to provide custom feeds | 21:33 |
| MrTopf | I will now create europython.wordpress.com and you might use it or not. Probably a good idea to quickly discuss it | 21:33 |
| MrTopf | btw, what does speak against e.g. brownpapertickets.com for registering? PloneConf 2006 used it | 21:34 |
| MrTopf | (or similar services) | 21:34 |
| david_boddie | MrTopf: OK. I'll be lurking on the channel during the week, so I can pounce on people as they appear. | 21:35 |
| MrTopf | ok :) | 21:35 |
| MrTopf | http://europython.wordpress.com/ | 21:36 |
| pboddie | Great! | 21:37 |
| pboddie | As for registration, John Pinner has a plan of action. | 21:37 |
| david_boddie | pboddie: Indeed. | 21:38 |
| MrTopf | I just wanted to mention it because it also supports all payment methods etc. | 21:38 |
| MrTopf | not sure though what the experiences have been | 21:38 |
| MrTopf | but if there's a need I can find out | 21:38 |
| pboddie | Worth knowing about, though. There were lots of discussions about payment mechanisms and sorting them all out with various institutions. | 21:38 |
| pboddie | CFP moved here: http://www.europython.org/community/Planning/CallForParticipationDraft | 21:39 |
| david_boddie | pboddie: Cool. | 21:39 |
| david_boddie | MrTopf: Is there anything else you want to talk about? | 21:39 |
| david_boddie | MrTopf: (concerning EuroPython, that is) | 21:40 |
| MrTopf | do we can stream live might be a question | 21:40 |
| MrTopf | the main thing is probably to have a dedicated line for it which might be the problem | 21:40 |
| david_boddie | MrTopf: Right. I'm still undecided about whether it is worth it. | 21:41 |
| MrTopf | IMHO it's usually the best to stream and directly record it on the streaming service because afterwards nobody has time anymore to edit this stuff | 21:41 |
| david_boddie | You go to more conferences that do this, so maybe you can say if people find live streaming useful. | 21:41 |
| david_boddie | Or perhaps the people who don't go could say if it's useful. :-) | 21:42 |
| MrTopf | well, for doing it in Second Life probably not but for webmondays etc. we have at least 20 people | 21:42 |
| MrTopf | I am not sure how many watched at FOSDEM | 21:42 |
| david_boddie | Of course, using a streaming service as an archival service is an interesting idea. :-) | 21:42 |
| MrTopf | the things I mostly do it these days to have that recording | 21:42 |
| MrTopf | it's not the best quality compared to a taped version of course but usually that's ok | 21:43 |
| MrTopf | last time the light wasn't too good though, esp. in the big room | 21:43 |
| david_boddie | Unless something really newsworthy is happening, it's not that important for these things to be live, so we can choose between streaming and recording. | 21:43 |
| david_boddie | Maybe we should ask for volunteers, then they can suggest what we should do - and what they would like to do. | 21:44 |
| * MrTopf usually only watches during the conference, hardly afterwards | 21:44 | |
| * david_boddie hasn't looked at the FOSDEM coverage much. | 21:44 | |
| MrTopf | yep, without people doing it it's not working anyway | 21:44 |
| MrTopf | as said for me it's mainly easy archival | 21:44 |
| MrTopf | otherwise I have a pile of tapes I never edit anymore because of lack of time | 21:45 |
| david_boddie | The only thing I _really_ care about is getting people to sign copyright assignment forms at the event. | 21:45 |
| david_boddie | Or some sort of document granting permission to redistribute the recordings. | 21:45 |
| MrTopf | make it Creative Comons | 21:45 |
| MrTopf | Commons | 21:45 |
| david_boddie | I mean the speakers as well as the artists. :-) | 21:45 |
| MrTopf | recordings as well as the slides maybe | 21:46 |
| MrTopf | it would be good to have the slides on slideshare.net | 21:46 |
| MrTopf | the Plone Conference slides are also on there mostly | 21:46 |
| david_boddie | How has the legal aspect worked with the Plone Conference. Do people have to sign disclaimers? | 21:46 |
| MrTopf | Hm, I was a speaker but I can't remember ;-) | 21:47 |
| MrTopf | but there have been these things in Seattle 2006 | 21:47 |
| MrTopf | and they have been there for the Second Life Community Conventions and created a lot of discussions | 21:47 |
| MrTopf | but mostly because it wasn't announced and very strict, basically giving away all your right | 21:47 |
| MrTopf | thus Creative Commons | 21:47 |
| MrTopf | and you maybe should put it in the CfP | 21:48 |
| david_boddie | Right. | 21:48 |
| MrTopf | for SLCC it also was mostly a problem for the musicians | 21:48 |
| xorAxAx | :) | 21:48 |
| MrTopf | I guess for speakers it's not so much of a problem anyway as they usually don't make money with it | 21:48 |
| david_boddie | I think it's easy to arrange for audio and video to be CC - the only doubt I have is about getting permission from the speakers. | 21:49 |
| pboddie | Something to add to the submission process, I guess. | 21:49 |
| david_boddie | If there's a standard way to do this, I'd be interested to see it. | 21:49 |
| MrTopf | no idea if there is a standard way.. for SLCC it just was sent out on last minute ;-) | 21:49 |
| david_boddie | Maybe this is something for me to look into. | 21:50 |
| david_boddie | Anyway, this is running on - the longest EuroPython meeting ever? Should we wrap up the formal meeting? | 21:50 |
| MrTopf | let me look into my inbox ;-) | 21:50 |
| MrTopf | didn't know this is a formal meeting ;-) | 21:50 |
| david_boddie | We started at 7pm... | 21:51 |
| pboddie | I think the formal meeting never really began. | 21:51 |
| pboddie | But it's been very useful to hear suggestions about recordings, blogs, and so on. | 21:51 |
| david_boddie | pboddie: Shall I set up a Doodle for next/this week? | 21:52 |
| pboddie | david_boddie: Yes, go on! | 21:52 |
| MrTopf | thinking about doing a lightning talk and encouraging people to blog :) | 21:52 |
| MrTopf | (or making it in some form together with the Welcome stuff) | 21:53 |
| MrTopf | I think you should also make voting for the logo somehow public, not on some list. The more people who think they can participate, the better. | 21:54 |
| pboddie | Agreed. We've not really considered how to do this yet. | 21:55 |
| pboddie | It's been very quiet, as usual. | 21:55 |
| david_boddie | New Doodle: http://doodle.ch/participation.html?pollId=dvvpwmvz5tfk2gn6 | 21:56 |
| MrTopf | maybe on the result page you can ask people to signup.. but then again such calls for participation should also go into the blog then | 21:57 |
| MrTopf | subscribing to a mailing list is sometimes too complicated ;-) | 21:57 |
| pboddie | I'd be interested in almost any idea to make these things easy for people. | 21:57 |
| pboddie | Hmm. RSSReader macro requires feedparser. | 21:59 |
| david_boddie | pboddie: We need to get some concensus behind the EP blog, then get it syndicated on Planet Python. | 21:59 |
| MrTopf | that's no surprise ;-) | 21:59 |
| pboddie | Lights dim as Adept package manager does its stuff. | 22:00 |
| pboddie | The output isn't great. I'm tempted to write my own macro. | 22:02 |
| MrTopf | so is there still a contest open to create a logo? | 22:02 |
| pboddie | Yes. I don't think we're closed for business. | 22:04 |
| MrTopf | because it does not say so on the homepage | 22:04 |
| pboddie | Yes, I just realised this. Hmm. | 22:05 |
| pboddie | I'll add some text. I forgot that people not already following the lists might have their own ideas. | 22:07 |
| xorAxAx | mailinglists seem too much conference 1.0 | 22:08 |
| MrTopf | I add it right now to the blog | 22:08 |
| MrTopf | maybe some guidelines also would be good, e.g. (make it rectangular, make it also recognizable at small sizes, provide a high-res version for print) etc. | 22:09 |
| pboddie | Yes, I guess so. | 22:11 |
| MrTopf | post is up http://europython.wordpress.com/ :-) | 22:12 |
| pboddie | Added a note about new logos to the page: http://www.europython.org/community/Planning/ProposedLogo | 22:15 |
| david_boddie | I'm going off-channel now. | 22:22 |
| david_boddie | This was quite productive, after all. :-) | 22:22 |
| pboddie | Yes, I think it's time to wind up. | 22:22 |
| david_boddie | See you! | 22:22 |
| pboddie | I'll look into the RSS aggregation a bit more and post details. | 22:22 |
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| MrTopf | cya all! :) | 22:27 |
| pboddie | MrTopf: Bye! | 22:27 |
| MrTopf | tell me when you need the RSS feed :) | 22:27 |
| pboddie | MrTopf: I'm using the one from europython.wordpress.com now for testing on my own site. | 22:35 |
| MrTopf | we should put it in the end to a feedburner feed | 22:35 |
| MrTopf | this is basically a filter in the middle | 22:35 |
| MrTopf | then subscriptions can be tracked and some other stuff is possible | 22:36 |
| MrTopf | like email subscriptions | 22:36 |
| MrTopf | http://feeds.feedburner.com/EuropythonConference | 22:37 |
| pboddie | OK. I'll look into that, too. Thanks for all the advice! | 22:37 |
| MrTopf | and this is the code for email subscriptions: http://pastebin.com/m5de7bb0e | 22:39 |
| pboddie | Right. So I should add this somewhere so that people can subscribe by e-mail? | 22:40 |
| MrTopf | yes, play around with it maybe how it can look like | 22:41 |
| MrTopf | should be maybe a small line below a subscribe to this blog button | 22:41 |
| MrTopf | I can also put it on the blog | 22:42 |
| MrTopf | and I will give you author rights then of course :) | 22:42 |
| pboddie | A lot to take in at this time of night! ;-) | 22:42 |
| MrTopf | ok, it does not work on the blog page because wordpress.com filters HTML out | 22:43 |
| MrTopf | well, certain tags | 22:44 |
| MrTopf | put a link on it now | 22:44 |
| MrTopf | just subscribed myself :_) | 22:45 |
| MrTopf | there are also email services which you can brand on your own but that costs something.. not too much depending on how many subscribers you have though | 22:45 |
| MrTopf | http://www.feedblitz.com/newsletter/pricing.asp | 22:46 |
| MrTopf | maybe enough now :) | 22:47 |
| MrTopf | if you have questions the next days just ask :) | 22:47 |
| pboddie | Yes, I'll look out for you on the channel. | 22:49 |
| pboddie | Thanks for all the help! | 22:49 |
| pboddie | Must get food now! :-) | 22:49 |
| pboddie | Bye! | 22:54 |
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